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THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** - SCaps - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

Mia, if you notice, that's the backside of the tower, I tried to find sideviews and {#}7{/#} was the only one I could find, but that's on the opposite side of where Jojo would be...everything else matches up, there 'could' be a number on the other side.

When I googled lifeguard towers {#}6{/#} I got the {#}6{/#} pic you see in the SC, but it didn't say where it was from, it was with beach pics though that were from Ventura...so googled the Ventura area, and I think the other 2 stations are a match as well. People move tables all the time.
by Guest
on Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:44 pm
 
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THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** - SCaps - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

SC Part 2...

#6 Jojo walks onto wooden planks, holding shoes in Left hand.
   ---possibly 2 slits in dress
   ---wrists, arms not able to clearly see
   ---3 smaller boats in ocean a bit closer to shore
   ---2 'Thai' looking boats are on beach to the right
   ---dark rocky cliff with one tree atop
   ---"generic" (my term) Thai decorations (no Budha statues like on grassy area)
   ---thick, dry, brown sand with lots of foot prints
   ---small white cap waves as water reaches beach
   ---rose table with fabric doo-dad on side
(I think this is 2nd FRC location CA/Thailand)

#7 What appears to be Jordan's hands/thumbs holding ringbox in limo
    VO: Oh, God. I'm so scared to let him go"
(I am guessing this is at 1st FRC in Thailand---but maybe not)

#8 Jojo PI. Closeup, crying, fanning herself with white papers in Right hand.
    Mouth moving: "I think I"m having a panic attack"
    ---waste line of dress not visible
    ---Left wrist is not visible
    ---no red or brown marks visible on Right wrist or arm above elbow
( I think this is at 1st FRC in Thailand)
by MiaHawk
on Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:12 pm
 
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THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** - SCaps - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

AC, thanks.

Yes, I am thinking that your SC #1 above (with hanging decoration) was FRC set up #1. Notice all the palm trees. In the video clip of preview, you are able to see that this grassy area is elevated above the ocean, it is not level with the ocean/beach below. You cannot rally see that from the SC alone.

IF the Jojo speech was filmed on the grassy area (where she speaks to blue suit and says she cannot accept his love, etc), why do we not see anything like palm trees or plants in the background. Clearly there were plants and trees between them and the ocean. Yet all we see in the back ground is a blurry blue. IF the camera view was on the grassy area but from the other direction (away from the ocean and towards the grass) we wouldn't be seeing blue. We should be seeing green (grass, trees). So, this leads me to think that we are seeing the camera angle from the grass area towards the ocean. Then there is the one SC (in my above post I used your SC. The top one says thumb comparison with Robby and Jojo kissing. Go down to SC #7 in that post. over Jojo's shoulder you can see a blurred out vertical object. It is the same size as the palm tree trunk that would have been over Jojo's shoulder if she were standing on the grassy area beneath the hanging decoration to the left side and the man was standing on the right side (which is the orientation of all SC and is the typical way that the lead greets the contestants). That blurred out trunk is in a SC where Jojo is giving her speech to blue suit. It appears to be consistent with the other SC showing Jojo during her speech. Her hair is blown in her face, crying, etc. I think that all of the SC that show Jojo's face were all from that location. I do not necessarily think at the blue suit is all of only one man or only at that location. I think in order to slip in clips of Man#2 at location #2, they used trickery to make us think that those previews are all taking place at the same time at the same place. They blurred and blued out the backgrounds to make them generic.

I do believe that the bottom 2 SC you just posted were of Jojo at a CA beach. These were shown in her intro footage in epi one, and I don't think they have anything to do with the FRC.

However, the wood plank FRC set up strikes me as odd. Why?

1) Because like I said above, I don't think Jojo gave her speech to blue suit while standing in front of the ocean. I think she was standing in front of a palm tree trunk. There are no palm trees shown in that clip, and palm trees would not be growing on the sandy beach between ocean and wooden platform.

2) Because there just so happen to be 3 boats in the video with wooden platform that just so happen to correspond to the approx location of 3 boats in the walking alone on Thai beach video. Yet the boats are no the same boats.

3) That tree that is up on the cliff to the right. It's not a palm tree. In the video showing the grassy area (from diff angles, too) only palm trees are visible. Is this a diff Thai location or not Thailand at all?

4) the sand. Obviously sand looks diff when it is wet and when it is dry. We don't know where exactly Jojo was walking when they filmed the walking alone on a Thai beach video. It could have been right near the supposed FRC set up or a ways down the beach. It looks like she is walking close to the water because the sand behind is wet, but also the sand in the foreground is wet. It is not likely that this took place close to the wooden plank FRC set up because you can see that there is very, very little flat wet sand at the ocean's edge. The sand with the wooden planks is deeper sand, footprinted, and dry. Again, it is possible that she walked further down the beach for the walking alone footage. I'm just pointing out inconsistencies.

5) the ocean. when you watch the actual video of her walking on the Thai beach alone, you can see that the water is very flat, not big waves at all, and it simply washes up to the sand gently. When you watch the actual video of her walking onto the wooden planks, you can see that the water is a bit rougher, and there is a bit more of a whitecap wave when the water hits the sand. I think this is because these are 2 diff beaches. Again, is it 2 diff beaches because it is 2 completely diff FRC set ups or is it 2 diff beaches because she walked down further on the same beach? My gut tells me it is 2 completely diff beaches.

6) the decorations. I'm going to be completely honest. When I first watched the clips, I wasn't thinking anything conspiratorial, but what I did think was that the wooden plank FRC was just a bit tacky, like they were trying too hard or too little. it reminded me of Emily M's FRC set up. Why would they have to paint those platforms and put so many items there to make it look like they were in Thailand. If they were in Thailand, why wouldn't it just look like Thailand naturally? AND why would they go through the bother of decorating the grassy area so much with plants, flowers, statues if it wasn't the FRC set up? And why are the decorations on the grassy area more authentically Thai...palm trees, flowers, statues, as opposed to the object next to the beach wooden platform? All of the items next to the wooden planks could have easily been bought at any (US) garden/home store- baskets, vases, leis. Why not put the Budha statues down by the FRC setup? Those are authentically Thai and decorative? Why put those only in the pass-through area where the men walk in and exit? Doesn't make sense to me. Seems forced, either because it was trying to mimic the Thai style or because it was in Thailand but at a totally diff location.

All of this is my own personal speculations. Subject to change with more info available.

by MiaHawk
on Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:45 pm
 
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Sean & Catherine Lowe - Fan Forum - Baby Lowe - Baby Shower & Games

As I read the list of songs, I named the artists in my head before I even realised that you had the artists listed. The only two I wasn't sure of was the James Taylor and Frank Sinatra but since James Taylor was also know as sweet baby James, that was a process of elimination.

#1 -- Chicago
#2 -- Justin Beiber
#3 -- Player
#4 -- Beach Boys
#5 -- Peter Frampton
#6 -- Supremes
#7 -- Brittany Spears
#8 -- Vanilla Ice
#9 -- Bread
#10 -- Frank Sinatra
#11 -- Paul Anka
#12 -- James Taylor
by Sprite
on Mon May 30, 2016 11:53 am
 
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Rachael Gouvignon - Girl in Red Romper - Bachelor Australia - Season 4

Nice of them to use name tags! Good job to those who picked [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]!
by GuardianAngel
on Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:42 pm
 
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Bachelor New Zealand - Jordan Mauger - Season 2 - Social Media - Media - Vids - NO Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Bachelor NZ Group Think, Week Five: That was actually pretty racist

By Group Think
April 6, 2016

After week five on The Bachelor NZ, some of the greatest minds in the country* assemble to talk about the big issues including Gabs’ nastiness, Naz’ nastiness, and Jordan’s nasty striped singlets.

Madeleine Chapman on the casual racism

Naz, Naz, Naz. She’s all over the internets with her hit list and her narking. Everyone wants to see Naz brought down a peg. Last night, The Bachelor delivered on this want with a slice of casual racism.

Naz has had a rough go of it from the start. It began with this suspicious think-piece after the premiere, questioning Naz’s name and past. They were wondering why she chose to be listed as “Naz” and not her full name “Nazanin” – as if to suggest that having the name “Nazanin” is indicative of dodgy behaviour. A reference to her birth country of Iran was included, for no apparent reason.

Anyone with a name that is remotely ‘ethnic’ will know exactly why Naz chose to shorten her name. People suck at pronouncing names. If your name is not 100% White English, it will definitely be pronounced wrong, no matter how simple it is.

Just look at all the place names in New Zealand. Taupo, Tauranga, Wairarapa. It almost sounds pretentious to pronounce these names correctly if you’re white, that’s how little effort New Zealanders have put into learning a name.

If you are introduced to a Pacific Islander with a one syllable name, I can almost guarantee that that is merely a fraction of their full name, chosen to make it easier on everyone. My Aunty Henga legally added an ‘n’ to her name, because everyone pronounced it wrong even after being taught how to say it.

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Which brings us to last night’s episode. Naz is sitting next to Gabrielle, Kate, and Erin when Gabrielle asks Naz “So what is your full name again?” Weird that they don’t know, since they’re constantly talking poop about her. Before she can respond, a mysterious voice says “Nazareth.”

Is it just me or is that pretty racist? Sort of like if a brown man introduced himself as “Mo” and you immediately started calling him “Māori”? Except maybe that wasn’t a good example because so many people still incredibly pronounce it “Meowri”.

Naz ignores her and replies, surprisingly polite, “It’s Nazanin.” Gabs repeats the name and still manages to make it sound off.

Then that same voice pipes back in with “Nazareth it is, not Naz.” All the other girls crack up before Gabs repeats “Nazareth” in a surprised tone and cracks up again at the idea that someone would name their daughter Nazareth which, in Naz’s case, they didn’t.

There’s something nasty about the whole scene that made me want to forgive Naz for all her narking. Trying and failing to grasp a foreign name is one thing, but completely disregarding someone’s birth name and mocking it in a racist manner is actually just disrespectful.

The Bachelor not only kept this scene in the show but they made it a highlight clip. Was it to highlight a funny moment in the show? Because it wasn’t funny, and it definitely wasn’t to garner sympathy for Naz because she’s too far gone at this point.

Whatever the reason, it was an uncomfortable reminder of the casual racism that is everywhere in New Zealand.

Go Nazanin.


Anny Ma on the 10 right reasons

I’m really confused. Not like Claudia was when she was evicted from the house confused, but more like everybody when Naz came back from her date with a rose confused. After their cliche water date, we saw Naz and Bore-dan’s – sorry, I mean Jordan’s – connection deepening to the point of telepathy.

I spent the entirety of both episodes on Tinder trying to make the show more interesting, but then I realised “why swipe left on all of NZ when you could be figuring out all of the right reasons, Anny?” I’ve saved you all the hard yakka and have put a lot of brain power into this.

I honestly can’t think of any reason why you’d want to be there. However, I’ve investigated and identified what these “right reasons” are:

{#}1{/#} To Find True Love with Jordan

Jordan said that he was worried Naz was only in it to win cos she’s hella competitive. From that, I deduce that the {#}1{/#} right reason must be to find love with Jordan – the man whose wardrobe only offers striped tank tops and unbuttoned suits.

{#}2{/#} Wearing Heaps of Cool Dresses

The dresses for the rose ceremonies have been really eye-catching, and I’ve always wanted to dress like I’m off to my 6th form ball again, so these dresses offer a tempting and nostalgic trip through the fashion ages.

{#}3{/#} Going to Hawaii

This one needs no explanation. I really want to go to Hawaii. Everybody looks like they’re having a great time.

{#}4{/#} Writing a Thesis on Reality Dating Shows

Hello, Rebecca.

{#}5{/#} Making 20 New Gal Pals

It looks like everybody is having a grand old time with each other when they’re not crying, yelling, backstabbing, or lying, I guess?

{#}6{/#} Getting Heaps More Instagram Followers So You Can Get Paid To Promote Waist Trainers and Teatox

Pretty self-explanatory. Look at all the free crap the B1 gals got.

{#}7{/#} Going to Brisbane

It wouldn’t be a NZ reality show if it didn’t involve a trip across the ditch packaged as the ultimate cool experience.

{#}8{/#} Get A Few Weeks Off Work

I mean, don’t we all want to take time off work, like all the time?

{#}9{/#} To Get On Naz’s Hit List

It seems like a really great place to be, and it would be a bloody honour to jump on there. Extra points for being at the top of it.

{#}10{/#} To Get Talked About Heaps on NZ’s Oldest and Most Prestigious TV Website The Spinoff

Well, this website is the Richie McCaw of the internet.

Jack Tippler texts someone who isn’t his mum

Texts from someone during The Bachelor who definitely isn’t my mum.

   “They need to change his ‘pensive’ outfit of red and white striped singlet and Hawaiian shorts! Or were all those shots filmed at the same time. A pensive shoot!“

I think my 7 years or so of film/TV work has caused my over-thinking of every aspect onscreen. Spot on point from that person who definitely isn’t my Mum, though. The striped singlet has had an incredible work out this season. It has now had more screen-time than Naz talking about the hit list.

   “Well there were big sparks!!“

Sent immediately followed the budget blowout that was the fireworks show. I’ll be honest, pretty low hanging fruit as far as a joke goes.

   “Storm needs to wrangle a date of her own…“

Pre-Storm date selection.

   “Tears = rose.“

Post-Storm heart to heart tear festival.

   “Goodbye Sarah“

Pre-rose ceremony. Interesting to get a big call like this from this person who definitely isn’t my Mum – I usually wouldn’t expect such a big call. Love the enthusiasm though.

   “He’s got the squeeze from above. She’s the only one causing drama“

Naz gets a rose, surely Jordan knows what’s up here. I’m with my mystery txter on this one. Long may we have Naz in the house to keep Jordan abreast of who’s here for the right reasons. The producers are on the right track keeping Naz around.

   “Nooooooo“

Shari is gone! Princess shakka-brah, the lady of the diamond necklace, my favorite cocktail party chatter is out. I was too distraught to watch her and Jordan’s goodbye.

Alice Brine’s ten thoughts from the week

1. Heads up to anyone living in modern society: In real life women don’t actually bicker and fight like this over men. We’re all really busy doing other things like running the UN.

2. Last week I suggested that Batch may actually be a colonial man who is struggling to fit into modern society after recently arriving in 2016. This week’s episodes have confirmed that. I’m confident that Batch has been living in an underground bunker and is from the year 1836. He also definitely comes from one of those cults where they got heaps of wives each.

3. “Shari has a sense of humour and I think that’s just adorable.” I don’t normally like to drink on a week night, but after I heard Batch utter those words I decided I would drink an entire bottle of wine by myself in under five minutes.

4. The concept of a woman having a sense of humour is clearly very new to Batch. As a stand up comedian who chose to be a woman whilst in the womb, I got extremely angry watching this particular episode and wrote out a lot of tweets in all caps. See @alicebrine for hard core evidence.

5. Shari is legit funny and she makes good gags constantly. Batch never knows what to do when this happens. I assumed originally it was because he does not have a sense of humour himself which is undeniably the case. However, it’s also because Batch comes from a time where women do not speak and any woman who so much as utters a pun is burned in a pit and fed to the witches.

6. Seriously bro, say that a woman having a sense of humour is adorable one more time.

7. Batch of course kicks Shari off the show. If only Batch had grown up in modern society, he would have realised that he was making a huge mistake. He’s intimidated by the fact that she’s funnier than he will ever be and has no idea what to do. We can’t blame him though, he’s from 1836 and he just doesn’t know any better.

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8. Batch is on a date with one of the other ones. All of a sudden they get next level excited about a super average sea turtle that’s not even that old looking. The producers decided to make it even more exciting by playing ill fitting EDM music in the background which was a great call on their part that made heaps of sense.

9. “ I heard that you were on Lord Of The Rings.” “ Yes. Pretty exciting. I was a film student and they needed some extras.” “ Oh my god! You were on lord of the rings! That’s amazing!” – No you’re wrong. Being on LOTR is not amazing. In this country being on LOTR is basically the same thing as having an IRD number.

10. I made a tweet about how Batch and the Baes kept talking about the view of the ‘misty sunset.” and it was reminding me of that mint song by Che Fu called ‘Misty Frequencies’ and then Che Fu liked that tweet.
by Guest
on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:55 am
 
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The Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Richie Strahan - Social Media - Media - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

laurarose wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
New date!
Sundy wrote:I think she's new. Haven't seen her before. And can we call her stretchy girl, just for fun
Or could it be unknown girl [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


I think she is Red Romper girl (also girl [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on soccer date). Looks the same to me?

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by AllAboutLove
on Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:57 am
 
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Rachael Gouvignon - Girl in Red Romper - Bachelor Australia - Season 4

Date April 6... Thinking that this is red romper girl/girl [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] ... (tan, has a bit longer nose, bigger calves/thighs)?
She seems to like to wear red a lot? (red romper, red top playing soccer, red bikini)...

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by AllAboutLove
on Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:52 am
 
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Rachael Gouvignon - Girl in Red Romper - Bachelor Australia - Season 4

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Could be her - I would have said [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] because [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] looks like the dark brunette girl from the photoshoot date but not 100% sure
by laurarose
on Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:23 pm
 
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Rachael Gouvignon - Girl in Red Romper - Bachelor Australia - Season 4

I am thinking she is girl [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on the soccer date in red top black shorts? Legs look the same and hair/tan?

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by AllAboutLove
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Kaitlyn Bristowe - Shawn Booth - Bachelorette 11 - #3 - Discussion

So what's the general consensus with these two? **edited** what does everyone think? At 10+ mos, are these two for real? Are they going to be #6 (or #7 depending what happens with BenLo) to be inducted into the Bachelor Married Club?
by sosleepy
on Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:28 pm
 
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Bachelor France Season 3 - Gian Marco - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

well well well...

after Shirley's interview it is 100% sure that she is NOT {#}1{/#}!!! LOL

Bachelor : Shirley balance sur les problèmes de transpiration de Marco

Looks like a very low blow IMO so my gut feelings were right about her. Only a mean girl or a hurt girl could do an interview like that so I am thinking she went far (segment says she had a 1on1 with kiss, maybe different places, different time). He was never interested with Shirley or he would not have acted like a jerk at the club in front of Naelle and her (with Laurie making up on the dance floor). So I am thinking Marco led her very far up to hometown, she had a big crush and got dumped.

Diane {#}1{/#}
Linda {#}2{/#} (although I am thinking more and more {#}1{/#} but he is so in awe with Diane's physical and he is blindsided making up something that is not there IMO. But who knows, Linda may be the hidden F1 with the storyline: will she become more than friendship?)
Shirley {#}3{/#}
Naelle {#}4{/#}
Laurie {#}5{/#}
Louise {#}6{/#}
Clemence {#}7{/#}
Melanie {#}8{/#}
Masha {#}9{/#}
Charlene {#}10{/#}
Julie {#}11{/#}
Marie-Charlotte {#}12{/#}
by Guest
on Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:44 pm
 
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