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Episode 2 - 5/30 - Discussion - Spoilers

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Post by connorsmom on Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:12 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

I totally agree with you on that.

Cosigned. I think Ash is having some trouble figuring out what to do initially but judging by her F4, she figures it all out by HTD. :smooch:

yes From what we've seen, all four of her F4 are good guys. Sort of makes for interesting conversation that the only drama we've seen really among these guys is Bentley, and really, only what he says in his interview moments. I wonder what kind of drama--if any--we'll see after he's gone?

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Post by Guest on Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:09 pm

ND4, you are right. They are going to do whatever makes the most $$$ - I don't know who they are pulling in besides us never-say-die-hard romantics, but they must have evidence that this nasty trainwreck stuff pays off enough to keep escalating it with every passing season. Clearly, they don't worry about losing us, their core audience, even though they have to be aware at the outrage over it. And they have a point.

Ever since I started watching (ironically, I started watching with Brad I, which is evidently when this sort of thing went into high gear), I have not missed a single season, even though I thought both DeAnna and Ali were mostly unsympathetic mean girls, I was po'd over Brad I, Jason's and Jillian's seasons and I was initially furious when Jake ended up as Bach because Reid and Kip turned it down.

And yet, Jake's season was the only one I seriously considered not watching, but sure enough, once September rolled in, there I was, remote in hand. TPTB know that their core audience will watch it, even while loathing the worst of it.

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Post by Alanna on Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:03 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

I totally agree with you on that.

Cosigned. I think Ash is having some trouble figuring out what to do initially but judging by her F4, she figures it all out by HTD. :smooch:

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Post by nd4reality on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:57 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

Agreed and I'd add Ryan P, Ben C and maybe even William to that. I really don't believe he meant to hurt her at all and I think he genuinely likes her. That's the ironic thing about this stupid Bentley situation. He probably really was the only one of the 25 that didn't have any interest in her at all. I think her F6 definitely wanted to be there. How sad that she is going to plagued with worry over something that is essentially a non-issue, thanks to TPTB and their wonderboy Bentley. :Frown:

Absolutely. This is the point Fleiss does not get about women IMHO. We LIKE the romance. For me at least this is the equivalent of the hockey and basketball playoffs. I don't need to see suffering. I want the happy ending and would rather have a rom.com than all this "mindf**k" as Reid called it.

All of us have life's challenges to deal with daily. For me, this show could be a sweet reprieve from all the world's woes. Bentley just pushes into my face how evil some people can be. If I want a villian, I'll go to the movies, or turn on the news.

Agree with all the bolded.

Unfortunately the die hard romantics like us are a small minority and he wants to ensure that the masses are tuned in Rolling Eyes .

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Post by nd4reality on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:56 pm

Here's a quick question, in 1 interview Chris H mentioned something about Ashley not carrying on after Bentley left. Is it confirmed that she had a date with JP ? I think that instead of the pre-planned date they switched it up a bit but still met up but have not seen any SCs.
Which would make JPs date the "emotional connection" date of episode 3 which is a shooin to the F1 (As spoilt).

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Post by Starshine_16 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:48 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

Agreed and I'd add Ryan P, Ben C and maybe even William to that. I really don't believe he meant to hurt her at all and I think he genuinely likes her. That's the ironic thing about this stupid Bentley situation. He probably really was the only one of the 25 that didn't have any interest in her at all. I think her F6 definitely wanted to be there. How sad that she is going to plagued with worry over something that is essentially a non-issue, thanks to TPTB and their wonderboy Bentley. :Frown:

Absolutely. This is the point Fleiss does not get about women IMHO. We LIKE the romance. For me at least this is the equivalent of the hockey and basketball playoffs. I don't need to see suffering. I want the happy ending and would rather have a rom.com than all this "mindf**k" as Reid called it.

All of us have life's challenges to deal with daily. For me, this show could be a sweet reprieve from all the world's woes. Bentley just pushes into my face how evil some people can be. If I want a villian, I'll go to the movies.

The messed up thing is that MF has it wrong. He's going for the drama because he believes that women want to see that and the ratings will escalate because women are watching it. What he doesn't get is that women are watching it because they hope that they'll get to see romance on their screen.

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Post by pavalygurl on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:45 pm

etherealfire wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

Agreed and I'd add Ryan P, Ben C and maybe even William to that. I really don't believe he meant to hurt her at all and I think he genuinely likes her. That's the ironic thing about this stupid Bentley situation. He probably really was the only one of the 25 that didn't have any interest in her at all. I think her F6 definitely wanted to be there. How sad that she is going to plagued with worry over something that is essentially a non-issue, thanks to TPTB and their wonderboy Bentley. :Frown:

Absolutely. This is the point Fleiss does not get about women IMHO. We LIKE the romance. For me at least this is the equivalent of the hockey and basketball playoffs. I don't need to see suffering. I want the happy ending and would rather have a rom.com than all this "mindf**k" as Reid called it.

All of us have life's challenges to deal with daily. For me, this show could be a sweet reprieve from all the world's woes. Bentley just pushes into my face how evil some people can be. If I want a villian, I'll go to the movies, or turn on the news.

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Post by Guest on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:35 pm

@pavalygurl wrote:I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

Agreed and I'd add Ryan P, Ben C and maybe even William to that. I really don't believe he meant to hurt her at all and I think he genuinely likes her. That's the ironic thing about this stupid Bentley situation. He probably really was the only one of the 25 that didn't have any interest in her at all. I think her F6 definitely wanted to be there. How sad that she is going to plagued with worry over something that is essentially a non-issue, thanks to TPTB and their wonderboy Bentley. :Frown:

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Post by mnmhughes on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:30 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

And I don't really see any of her F4 being interested in Emily, so I think they were all happy it was her. She may have screwed up at the beginning, but she ended up with the best guys who all care for her!

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Post by Starshine_16 on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:28 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

I totally agree with you on that.

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Post by pavalygurl on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:26 pm

I do believe that JP, Ben, Dino and Ames all genuinely care for her. I am so ready to be done with Bentley and on with that show.

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Post by connorsmom on Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:23 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:"This is so hard, because I thought everyone wanted it to be Emily." :no:

That's certainly who the guys wanted it to be. Something is surely up this season.

I am getting the vibe too that many wanted it to be Emily.

I suspect that the screening process starts very soon, so it makes sense that those who are applying decide they should prolly watch a season or so. Spoilers came out very very early that Chantal was F1 and Emily was F2, so it was safe for the guys to assume it would be Emily. I don’t’ know at what point they sign on the dotted line and are cast – and it could’ve been before the end of the season and still was hoping for Emily/Chantal. Sad for Ashley – and I remember a lot of boardies not too happy it was going to be here either.

And I wouldn't put it past TPTB to use that to sell their story for this season -- Ashley's insecurity that she's not the one her guys wanted. So they've done whatever they could (even bring on a villain to drive the point home?) to showcase that insecurity in her and make it part of her journey. I only hope that by the time she whittles the group down to the final 4, she knows that they are the ones who want her, not anyone else.

And I'd venture to guess that :27: isn't sorry it's her. Smiley

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