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Post by ironcat on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:22 pm

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@Alexxxx wrote:Hmmm ... if it's Bentley vs. everyone else, exactly what was missing in the Bentley relationship? An emotional connection. The physical was certainly there, but he didn't give two hoots about who she was or what she was about. JP has the physical connection (which imo has come on way too fast), and Ben's is building (slow burn). But Ben has already been singled out as the emotional connection.

IDK, it looks like JP has everything Bentley had, maybe just not quite as much, but Ben has what Bentley was missing.

Oooo... that's good! :missclap: Food for thought for sure!

The thing is, as ridiculous as it sounds, I think Ashley thought she had more of an emotional connection with Bentley than a physical one. Clearly, she was misled as to who the real Bentley was, and her emotional connection was merely with the character Bentley was playing when he toyed with her emotions.

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Post by Admin on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:23 pm

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@ironcat wrote:My impression of Ben's comment about already kissing Ashley was that he was joking about it, since JP was clearly nervous about how many guys (besides him) she had already kissed. Why would the editors have cut an early kiss between Ben and Ashley out, particularly if he is F1? It makes no sense.
A lot of the early RC 1-on-1 times with Ali and Roberto were cut as well as their kisses. And I'm pretty sure we missed out on their first kiss.

I thought their first kiss was on the tightrope (or whatever it's called, laugh out loud) I thought I heard Ali say that before..I could be wrong though. :A-okay:
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Post by agentcurls on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:25 pm

I think it's very plausible that Ashley has a pretty strong emotional connection to JP also....but some of it is on the cutting floor

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Post by ironcat on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:29 pm

San wrote:
@lavenderred wrote:
@ironcat wrote:My impression of Ben's comment about already kissing Ashley was that he was joking about it, since JP was clearly nervous about how many guys (besides him) she had already kissed. Why would the editors have cut an early kiss between Ben and Ashley out, particularly if he is F1? It makes no sense.
A lot of the early RC 1-on-1 times with Ali and Roberto were cut as well as their kisses. And I'm pretty sure we missed out on their first kiss.

I thought their first kiss was on the tightrope (or whatever it's called, laugh out loud) I thought I heard Ali say that before..I could be wrong though. :A-okay:

I also don't think there was a lot of interaction between Ashley and Ben F that got edited out before the orphanage date. Otherwise, why would he have noted that Ashley (finally) appeared to be buzzing around him a lot, if they had been "up in each others' grills" so much in the past? And why would Ashley comment that she finally noticed Ben if she had kissed him earlier?

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Post by mnmhughes on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:29 pm

I thought the whole point of the show (and Ali said this in her interview today) is twofold:
1) Show why the lead picked F1.
2) Show the F2 as a better choice for the lead, therefore ensuring people turn in to see the next season.

So if Ben is getting a better edit, wouldn't that mean they are courting him to be the next Bachelor? scratch
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Post by Living on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:29 pm

@Alexxxx wrote:
@Living wrote:
@LuvnIt wrote:
@noobsleuth wrote:I found the F1 and F2 sitting in room discussing their relationship with Ashley a little bizarre last night. Has that ever happened before? I wonder why they showed that. I noticed JP getting a little jealous of Ben F. kissing Ashley. I guess Bentley has to disappear sooner or later and they needed to set up some-kind of showdown between these two.


I kind of got the impression that Ben F was somewhat razzing JP about saying he had kissed Ashley, when JP asked what, when The other guy Blake i think said he is full of IT then Ben says i don't want to talk about with you huys but he was smiling as he said it.. Both those guys Blake, Ben F included knew that JP is way into Ashley did you all not hear what Ben told JP, be patient because it will drive you crazy and JP said it already has. But that was my take on Ben saying he had already kissed Ashley , i know others view it much differently.

Ben F saying he has kissed Ashley does not sound F1 to me. That is like William childish thing to do. Maybe he had maybe he had not. We cannot presume one way or the other. For me that cuts him out of being F1. You do not kiss and tell, or even sit and discuss with other guys such details.

But both JP and Ben were in on the 'kiss and tell' discussion. And, Ames has been confirmed by RS to be on Bachelor Pad this season. How does that work with an Ames F1 scenario?

You are right to wonder. The thing is, I am not basing my observations on spoilers but on what I see on the screen irregardless of spoilers. Maybe along the line things will change depending on edit etc, but right now this is what I see. what RS says or not means nothing to me. After all Love me says someone is F1 and RS says another. Why pick one over the other when I have eyes to watch and decide myself.

Just occurred to me. Posssible Ashley did not pick anyone as she's still hung on Bentley and time was too short to fall for someone else. I do not see JP and Ben F get the F1 edit. That I am sure of.


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Post by sgjsnow on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:35 pm

reason wrote:I dont believe JP smooth out her insecurities else there would be no crying and talk about who is still there for her at the RC the night after bentley left. Yesterday she said spending time with ben is what she needed to get over bentley.

Was this a VO or did we see her say it? I don't remember.
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Post by Nibbles22 on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:36 pm

@ironcat wrote:
BachFanInOrl wrote:
@Alexxxx wrote:Hmmm ... if it's Bentley vs. everyone else, exactly what was missing in the Bentley relationship? An emotional connection. The physical was certainly there, but he didn't give two hoots about who she was or what she was about. JP has the physical connection (which imo has come on way too fast), and Ben's is building (slow burn). But Ben has already been singled out as the emotional connection.

IDK, it looks like JP has everything Bentley had, maybe just not quite as much, but Ben has what Bentley was missing.

Oooo... that's good! :missclap: Food for thought for sure!

The thing is, as ridiculous as it sounds, I think Ashley thought she had more of an emotional connection with Bentley than a physical one. Clearly, she was misled as to who the real Bentley was, and her emotional connection was merely with the character Bentley was playing when he toyed with her emotions.
I don't think that sounds ridiculous at all, and it does make perfect sense to me. Ashley was emotionally
*in it* with Bentley, one-sided of course ~ but she was definitely more emotionally invested than physically
invested. She viewed him as the complete package. Now that sounds ridiculous to me!!
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Post by Alanna on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:37 pm

Wow. You guys are too fast for me and I'm operating a tiny keyboard on a moving object right now. LOL!

Few points:
1. Ali kissed Rob on the tightrope for the first time and blogged about it.
2. For Ashley, an emotional connection is a physical one. She had both with Bentley and she has both with JP I'm assuming and if Ben is chosen, she probably has both with him. Ashley felt safe and secure and protected with Bentley, her words, not mine, so that right there is clear that it wasn't just hot, hot chemistry.
3. Living, AWESOME spec. I'm Team Ames too. :D
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Post by Admin on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:42 pm

@Alanna wrote:Wow. You guys are too fast for me and I'm operating a tiny keyboard on a moving object right now. LOL!

Few points:
1. Ali kissed Rob on the tightrope for the first time and blogged about it.
2. For Ashley, an emotional connection is a physical one. She had both with Bentley and she has both with JP I'm assuming and if Ben is chosen, she probably has both with him. Ashley felt safe and secure and protected with Bentley, her words, not mine, so that right there is clear that it wasn't just hot, hot chemistry.
3. Living, AWESOME spec. I'm Team Ames too. :D

THANKS girl!! :awesome:
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Post by cupcakes on Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:07 pm

I noticed that it's been posted that JP and Ashley don't have an emotional connection but Ben and Ashley do. Why do we think this? Are we basing this solely on the one comment that was left in about an emotional connection with Ben? Or Is it because she is always yapping about his kisses that we think they are not emotionally connecting?
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Post by philphan on Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:10 pm

@Alanna wrote:
BachFanInOrl wrote:
@Alexxxx wrote:Hmmm ... if it's Bentley vs. everyone else, exactly what was missing in the Bentley relationship? An emotional connection. The physical was certainly there, but he didn't give two hoots about who she was or what she was about. JP has the physical connection (which imo has come on way too fast), and Ben's is building (slow burn). But Ben has already been singled out as the emotional connection.

IDK, it looks like JP has everything Bentley had, maybe just not quite as much, but Ben has what Bentley was missing.

Oooo... that's good! :missclap: Food for thought for sure!

I don't agree with this, starting with the fact that JP is genuine and when he reassures her, it's for real, not messing with her. It doesn't make any sense to me if Ben is F1 because it's JP that is shown to be soothing her insecurities and rescuing her from Bentley. I also don't think they would cut out the F1's first kiss with the lead, I would think it's important. However, maybe you're right, her blog was leaning towards Ben today IMO.

If we didn't see the blog lean toward Ben today we would assume that she goes with Bentley, JP (or no one) at the end of this. Knowing that Ben is supposedly F1 or F2 I had assumed he would come to the forefront in this episode . These blogs are carefully written to mess with our brains.
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