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Post by Guest on Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:17 am

anders wrote:Funny story - last night at dinner with friends (friends that don't watch the Bachelor and have no interest to either) we were talking about past relationships and 'bad boys'.

It does amaze me how the bad boy is so attractive to many women, I've never had one, I always like the quiet, reserved guys (prolly cuz I'm a people pleaser and never wanted to disappoint my mother - boy do I have issues ). When the ladies were talking about their bad boys they became so nostalgic like it was a love lost. And that they always thought they could tame the bad boy. And these ladies are highly intelligent women in their 40s.

I never saw the appeal of the bad boy. I always wanted the best boy -- as good as the best, and better than the rest, LOL.

It's funny because now that my daughter is in college and meeting all different types of guys, she'll tell me about meeting someone that she's interested in, and I can practically mark on the calendar how long he'll last. Doesn't take her long to figure them out and after about the third date, boom, deleted from her phone. rotfl

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Post by Alanna on Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:23 am

nutty1 wrote:Regardless of who the F1 is, I am wondering how he feels, watching all the Bentley shenanigans now. Even if Ashley tries to reassure him, it has got to be tough.

On JP's first date with her, she was crying so much that she needed to put on glasses and fell asleep on top of him because she was so exhausted and worn out. Then their second 1:1 is right after she sees Bentley so again he knows everything happening. This isn't even mentioning that in every interaction we've seen, she's asked him in some way or another if he's going to leave her. If JP doesn't get it yet or is mad at Ashley while watching the show, he's simply not her man.

If anyone but JP is F1, they're done IMO. Not sure how their relationship could survive Bentley and JP.
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Post by anders on Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:25 am

Her first date after she sees Bentley is with Lucas, then the group date, then JP.

F1 may be okay with it now, but it couldn't be easy watching episode 3 when she was beside herself with grief that he was leaving and she was afraid the process wasn't going to work for her. (her words)
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Post by ironcat on Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:03 am

anders wrote:Her first date after she sees Bentley is with Lucas, then the group date, then JP.

F1 may be okay with it now, but it couldn't be easy watching episode 3 when she was beside herself with grief that he was leaving and she was afraid the process wasn't going to work for her. (her words)

If the stories are true that they are spending a lot of time together now, that should help considerably. I think that was part of the reason that Brad and Emily fell apart so quickly. Also, Bentley duped and made a fool of Ashley, but at least it's got to be clear to her F1 that she is no longer interested in him, and her feelings for Bentley could never challenge what they have because it was all a lie. I think that might be easier to swallow in the long run, if he really loves her. And as someone said, if he can't get past this, he's not her guy.

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Post by nd4reality on Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:17 am

nutty1 wrote:Regardless of who the F1 is, I am wondering how he feels, watching all the Bentley shenanigans now. Even if Ashley tries to reassure him, it has got to be tough.
Agree - it has to be tough.
Watching Ryans vlog you could see him hurt because of what the other guys said but you could also see him hurting for what Ashley is going through. If he finds it difficult to watch (he said so), I can imagine that her F1 also finds it extremely hard.
JP I think saw her when she was low and though she went through her date with him and seem to be ok she did fall asleep so he would have had a pretty good idea that she was exhausted. And he also got 1st hand info on her meeting. But seeing it all - must be very hard.

Plus the guys did not even know the kind of stuff that Bentley was saying all along so it has to be a double whammy right now.

I don't envy any of them right now.
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Post by CHO on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:40 pm

I am trying to figure out how I would feel if I were JP or Ben. For JP - all along he is thinking they have a great connection. Then she goes on the 2nd 1on1 date - and I guess she essentially tells him that she had this thing for Bentley but she is all over it now - and he accepts this apparently - and they have a great time together. So he loves her and as long as they can go on from here - he is ok with it.

If I were Ben - she essentially gets interested in him (so we are led to believe) after Bentley leaves - (ie initially it was Bentley or no one - and she is trying to move on and open up her heart to new beginnings). So if what she is saying - is that she has to have closure on Bentley before she can move on - doesn't this all apply to moving on with Ben? She is beginning to fall for Ben but she still wonders about the unresolved feelings for Bentley. And she is upset after she tells the guys - because she is worried about Ben - he's the one she cares about. Why would she be upset if she was falling for JP - he has already accepted her confession and apparently was fine with it.

I'm sure I am being way too logical - and I know Fleiss and tptb are not logical !

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Post by asim on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:44 pm

CHO wrote:I am trying to figure out how I would feel if I were JP or Ben. For JP - all along he is thinking they have a great connection. Then she goes on the 2nd 1on1 date - and I guess she essentially tells him that she had this thing for Bentley but she is all over it now - and he accepts this apparently - and they have a great time together. So he loves her and as long as they can go on from here - he is ok with it.

If I were Ben - she essentially gets interested in him (so we are led to believe) after Bentley leaves - (ie initially it was Bentley or no one - and she is trying to move on and open up her heart to new beginnings). So if what she is saying - is that she has to have closure on Bentley before she can move on - doesn't this all apply to moving on with Ben? She is beginning to fall for Ben but she still wonders about the unresolved feelings for Bentley. And she is upset after she tells the guys - because she is worried about Ben - he's the one she cares about. Why would she be upset if she was falling for JP - he has already accepted her confession and apparently was fine with it.

I'm sure I am being way too logical - and I know Fleiss and tptb are not logical !

Could be JP told her she needed to tell the guy, or it should come from her in case they heard it from someone else. no no no idea no idea

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Post by ironcat on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:53 pm

Ashley is a somewhat insecure people pleaser, and it would bother and upset her if a room full of perfect strangers started ganging up on her. Maybe she's also concerned for Ben's reaction (if he really is F1, and even if he's F2, she'd want him to stick around and not be mad at her), but I don't think this is indicative of anything but Ashley's nature. And considering she was apparently expecting it to go much better, she's probably shocked as well, which may lead to crying.

If she really was concerned about Ben and only Ben, I don't understand why she would have told JP first though. Shouldn't she just have pulled Ben aside at the group date and privately told him then?

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Post by ninu on Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:00 pm

I think she has a little crush on Ben, and enjoys flirting with him - wide eyes, teasing, etc. But as for the complete, melt-into-his-chest, cute happy bubbly Ashley? That's JP's. I don't think he's that obvious - my mom and sister have to have me point him out every time we watch - it's all Bentley all the time on THEIR radar. Dino is a non-issue... I have no idea why Ames gets eliminated but obviously they're not as far into their relationship as JP and Ash.

Also - it won't let me quote properly, but

Scarletta wrote:The only other person she's all over is JP. They barely have any other interaction except making out & wrapping all over each other. I don't think she knows a thing about him, but she's physically attracted to him & that's all she wants.

Sounds like Roberto part II to me - it's easier to edit out an emotional connection and keep people questioning than it is to edit out a physical connection especially when they're always close, always all over each other no idea JMO


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Post by Jeepers on Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:31 pm

nutty1 wrote:Regardless of who the F1 is, I am wondering how he feels, watching all the Bentley shenanigans now. Even if Ashley tries to reassure him, it has got to be tough.

She may have explained, before airing that it was nothing but producer driven story board stuff and. Ot to believe it. Or is that person not even watching lol
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Post by ironcat on Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:42 pm

If there's any substance to the relationship, they'll get through this. If his reaction is anger at Ashley for being duped, instead of wanting to beat the ever-loving crap out of Bentley, he's just not that into her.

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Post by sjcaligurl on Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:44 pm

I think all of this Bentley stuff was overplayed and that by the end we will see it. They constantly have to work around the leads who have obvious chemistry with one person. Ashley wanted to use her gut and go by her initial feelings vs. actually getting to know the guys. Look at her date with William and see how that turned out. Then Bentley played comforter and she was into him. No doubt that she was into JP but I think she was a little afraid of him because he is more forward/aggressive than even Bentley was. Bentley was playing the sensitive type who had insecurities and she probably identified with that. I think she was slightly intimidated by JP even though she was strongly attracted to him.

I'm over Bentley. I think he was really a non-factor beyond her just getting really scared after he left that the rest of the guys were going to leave too. She's giving these guys every out she can give them. As always, some guys are there for her and some aren't as invested. She only needs one and I think she found him.

I don't see why she's getting such a hard time. She was up front. Jillian just let Ed back w/o a lot of explanation and he took the whole thing. I think that would have pissed me off more were I one of the guys.

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