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Episode 5 - 6/20 - Discussion - Thread #1

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Post by pavalygurl on Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:55 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
Coastal wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
reason wrote:Every group date so far Ben F has been on

That's right. All group dates, no 1-on-1 dates till episode 5. Never done before for a F1.
Actually happened in Deanna's season.........Jesse.

Because of the time that Ben has had on the group dates with Ash.........I think they have definately had enough time to establish a connection........just because it hasn't been shown, doesn't mean it hasn't happened............look how comfortable they were during their kiss.........obviously not their first kiss!!!!!!!!!

Seriously? Deanna herself has admitted that Jesse was not her true F1 and that she never should have picked him, she should have walked away alone.

Also, they always show the F1's first kiss. So either Ben was lying to rile up JP, or the editors didn't show the beginning of the love story.

I guess they want us to think this is the first kiss... It is still the beginning of their story.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:57 pm

mnmhughes wrote:
Coastal wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
reason wrote:Every group date so far Ben F has been on

That's right. All group dates, no 1-on-1 dates till episode 5. Never done before for a F1.
Actually happened in Deanna's season.........Jesse.

Because of the time that Ben has had on the group dates with Ash.........I think they have definately had enough time to establish a connection........just because it hasn't been shown, doesn't mean it hasn't happened............look how comfortable they were during their kiss.........obviously not their first kiss!!!!!!!!!

Seriously? Deanna herself has admitted that Jesse was not her true F1 and that she never should have picked him, she should have walked away alone.

Also, they always show the F1's first kiss. So either Ben was lying to rile up JP, or the editors didn't show the beginning of the love story.

Yes, I am being serious!! I really don't think it takes a rocket scientist to realize that Ben and Ash have kissed before by looking at how comfortable they were together and NOT always is the first kiss between the final one and the lead shown!!

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Post by Guest on Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:57 pm

pavalygurl wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
Coastal wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
reason wrote:Every group date so far Ben F has been on

That's right. All group dates, no 1-on-1 dates till episode 5. Never done before for a F1.
Actually happened in Deanna's season.........Jesse.

Because of the time that Ben has had on the group dates with Ash.........I think they have definately had enough time to establish a connection........just because it hasn't been shown, doesn't mean it hasn't happened............look how comfortable they were during their kiss.........obviously not their first kiss!!!!!!!!!

Seriously? Deanna herself has admitted that Jesse was not her true F1 and that she never should have picked him, she should have walked away alone.

Also, they always show the F1's first kiss. So either Ben was lying to rile up JP, or the editors didn't show the beginning of the love story.

I guess they want us to think this is the first kiss... It is still the beginning of their story.

Like I said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that they have kissed before.

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Re: Episode 5 - 6/20 - Discussion - Thread #1

Post by LibbyBell on Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:59 pm

Coastal wrote:
pavalygurl wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
Coastal wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
reason wrote:Every group date so far Ben F has been on

That's right. All group dates, no 1-on-1 dates till episode 5. Never done before for a F1.
Actually happened in Deanna's season.........Jesse.

Because of the time that Ben has had on the group dates with Ash.........I think they have definately had enough time to establish a connection........just because it hasn't been shown, doesn't mean it hasn't happened............look how comfortable they were during their kiss.........obviously not their first kiss!!!!!!!!!

Seriously? Deanna herself has admitted that Jesse was not her true F1 and that she never should have picked him, she should have walked away alone.

Also, they always show the F1's first kiss. So either Ben was lying to rile up JP, or the editors didn't show the beginning of the love story.

I guess they want us to think this is the first kiss... It is still the beginning of their story.

Like I said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that they have kissed before.
Based on the conversation that Ben and Blake were having with JP, I believe that they were only joking around. Blake even said as much right after Ben said that he said-- "oh, he's full of it". I also think later on, at the after party, when they did kiss, I believe that Ben made the Scooby-doo reference "ruh-roh" because he knew that once he was one of the kissers, he'd been bumped up a notch. That is when he went to the next level.
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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:00 am

Jeepers wrote:I found, after rewatching the group date, JP making very similar types of comments as past F2s have made and really close to the kind that Chris L would make. Per this past week I would put Ben as f1 and JP as f2 based on his comments and some behavior as well
That is another reason why I am doubting that JP is F1.........waaaay too many comments made by JP that belongs to a F2 edit. That and I have always had a healthy sceptism when it comes to RS and his final 1 spoilers..........he has been wrong more than right.

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Post by pavalygurl on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:01 am

I think it went to the next level because Ash admitted she liked him now. LOL

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:05 am

LibbyBell wrote:
Coastal wrote:
pavalygurl wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
Coastal wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
reason wrote:Every group date so far Ben F has been on

That's right. All group dates, no 1-on-1 dates till episode 5. Never done before for a F1.
Actually happened in Deanna's season.........Jesse.

Because of the time that Ben has had on the group dates with Ash.........I think they have definately had enough time to establish a connection........just because it hasn't been shown, doesn't mean it hasn't happened............look how comfortable they were during their kiss.........obviously not their first kiss!!!!!!!!!

Seriously? Deanna herself has admitted that Jesse was not her true F1 and that she never should have picked him, she should have walked away alone.

Also, they always show the F1's first kiss. So either Ben was lying to rile up JP, or the editors didn't show the beginning of the love story.

I guess they want us to think this is the first kiss... It is still the beginning of their story.

Like I said, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that they have kissed before.
Based on the conversation that Ben and Blake were having with JP, I believe that they were only joking around. Blake even said as much right after Ben said that he said-- "oh, he's full of it". I also think later on, at the after party, when they did kiss, I believe that Ben made the Scooby-doo reference "ruh-roh" because he knew that once he was one of the kissers, he'd been bumped up a notch. That is when he went to the next level.

I was going by how comfortable the two of them were together versus the actual words were that Ben said during his time with JP and Blake..........when you look at the time he had with Ash during the group date, it was extremely obvious that they had kissed before.

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Post by mnmhughes on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:06 am

When do we normally get new preview for the episodes? I know TVGrapevine gives us previews on Friday, but what about other sites?
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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:07 am

Bloomers wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
Coastal wrote:
mnmhughes wrote:
reason wrote:Every group date so far Ben F has been on

That's right. All group dates, no 1-on-1 dates till episode 5. Never done before for a F1.
Actually happened in Deanna's season.........Jesse.

Because of the time that Ben has had on the group dates with Ash.........I think they have definately had enough time to establish a connection........just because it hasn't been shown, doesn't mean it hasn't happened............look how comfortable they were during their kiss.........obviously not their first kiss!!!!!!!!!

Seriously? Deanna herself has admitted that Jesse was not her true F1 and that she never should have picked him, she should have walked away alone.

Also, they always show the F1's first kiss. So either Ben was lying to rile up JP, or the editors didn't show the beginning of the love story.

By her own admission, Graham was DeAnna's intended F1, but Graham (who left at the end of the HTs) who was slated for F1 had also been on all of the group dates, the same as Jesse. The only group date Graham missed out on was the date during his 1-1 during Ep. 2. Jesse, of course, missed out on the Ep.4 group date.

I'll tell you another thing we can't count on anymore!!

Until last season, I don't think we ever saw the F1 get a group rose. If we did, I could not remember it. All of a sudden, Emily started getting group roses.

So because Ben has mostly had group date roses, this can still point to him as being the F1.

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Post by Jeepers on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:11 am

pavalygurl wrote:I think it went to the next level because Ash admitted she liked him now. LOL

Ya think!!! Lol
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Post by Starshine_16 on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:13 am

I'm honestly not sure what or who to believe at this point. The edit is confusing me horribly.JP appears to be getting the F2 edit but I don't think Ben F is getting a F1 edit.
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Post by Alanna on Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:13 am

Jeepers wrote:
pavalygurl wrote:I think it went to the next level because Ash admitted she liked him now. LOL

Ya think!!! Lol

He noted that she was "buzzing around [him] now," which to me implies that before this date she wasn't focused on him. So I do think their real relationship started with this group date. I don't believe TPTB were hiding anything too great because it was all that amazing that we couldn't see it lest it ruin the entire season's mystery.
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