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Episode 6 - 6/27 - Discussion - Spoilers

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Post by Kashathediva on Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:51 pm

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noobsleuth wrote:CH said next week she is in her darkest place yet. I don't know whether it's all about Bentley or somewhat about the guys. I think it might be a little of both. Anyway this extreme low leads to the return of Bentley in epi. 6 and/or end of epi. 5.

* on rant * I am so sick of talking about this a$$hole. I can't believe every episode is tainted with his name. I can image if he was the F1 because obviously then it's important to his storyline but this is becoming a SIX EPISODE distraction that's really starting to pi** me off. This makes Ashley and her F1 (who she loves) look like fools... terrible... okay done ranting. Smiley

And to think TPTB could have ended it by showing Ashley just one of Bentley's PIs . Even now, they could do some creative editing and preserve an ounce of Ashley's dignity.

But see, this is their creative editing. This is the story that they want to go with and they aren't going to change tactic.
For whatever reason, and we could speculate until the cows come home, after the film is in the can(or shall I say digital whatever, because film is pretty rare since the tsunami in Japan due to the Sony issues), the editors (video and audio) are given precise paths to follow to paint the picture we view weekly.
I can not stress enough how precise this is. There are a lot of new hassles and issues editing teams have to deal with since they are now dealing purely digital vs with real film, so it's not as if this edit was not something that was exactly choreographed.
The edit is what it is. Why? I don't think they had much else to go with. People are bored with the season--why? Not much to go with. They're showing what they had to draw at any interest at all is my opinion.
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Post by DMBFan on Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:04 pm

So Kasha, do you think a lot of the Bentley stuff is built up for drama?

I know when I was doing the PI transcribing, I had the earphones on and turned up loud, and you can definitely here changes in volume and intonation, Bentely's name was dubbed in a lot.

I think what happened, is she agreed to Bentley as a story idea, like Frank was the "story" in Ali's season, but she obviously didn't know he was saying all these things about her, or that TPTB edit it this way, or that they would dub his name into some of her PI's to make her sound pathetic.

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Post by Kashathediva on Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:11 pm

IDK. I think the editors were told exactly what to leave in and what to take out for specific reasons. No more, no less.
I know my "editor" buddy is very very busy since the problems with Sony. It's much more detailed work apparently, so what the viewers get is meant.
The bottom line with this show is ratings =money. So this edit was what they went with for that reason.


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Post by realityfan26 on Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:55 am

Kashathediva wrote:IDK. I think the editors were told exactly what to leave in and what to take out for specific reasons. No more, no less.
I know my "editor" buddy is very very busy since the problems with Sony. It's much more detailed work apparently, so what the viewers get is meant.
The bottom line with this show is ratings =money. So this edit was what they went with for that reason.

Kasha - the voice of reason!! I need to just follow you to remind myself this show is just a show. Entertainment. :yes:
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Post by Reality Mary on Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:03 pm

Kashathediva wrote:
realityfan26 wrote:
noobsleuth wrote:CH said next week she is in her darkest place yet. I don't know whether it's all about Bentley or somewhat about the guys. I think it might be a little of both. Anyway this extreme low leads to the return of Bentley in epi. 6 and/or end of epi. 5.

* on rant * I am so sick of talking about this a$$hole. I can't believe every episode is tainted with his name. I can image if he was the F1 because obviously then it's important to his storyline but this is becoming a SIX EPISODE distraction that's really starting to pi** me off. This makes Ashley and her F1 (who she loves) look like fools... terrible... okay done ranting. Smiley

And to think TPTB could have ended it by showing Ashley just one of Bentley's PIs . Even now, they could do some creative editing and preserve an ounce of Ashley's dignity.

But see, this is their creative editing. This is the story that they want to go with and they aren't going to change tactic.
For whatever reason, and we could speculate until the cows come home, after the film is in the can(or shall I say digital whatever, because film is pretty rare since the tsunami in Japan due to the Sony issues), the editors (video and audio) are given precise paths to follow to paint the picture we view weekly.
I can not stress enough how precise this is. There are a lot of new hassles and issues editing teams have to deal with since they are now dealing purely digital vs with real film, so it's not as if this edit was not something that was exactly choreographed.
The edit is what it is. Why? I don't think they had much else to go with. People are bored with the season--why? Not much to go with. They're showing what they had to draw at any interest at all is my opinion.

I totally agree. They want to show the train wreck because people get bored with just a love story. I know so many guys that are watching this year and viewers equal money. Bottom line, just like many things in life it all comes down to money. If they would have shown Ashley the comments of Bentley, the controversy would be over and the drama scaled down. MF and the editors are telling Ashley's story with as much drama as they can muster to try and keep people watching and keep the advertisers happy. Kasha's words are so accurate, " They're showing what they had to draw at any interest at all".
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Post by pbmax on Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:12 am

Kashathediva wrote:IDK. I think the editors were told exactly what to leave in and what to take out for specific reasons. No more, no less.
I know my "editor" buddy is very very busy since the problems with Sony. It's much more detailed work apparently, so what the viewers get is meant.
The bottom line with this show is ratings =money. So this edit was what they went with for that reason.

Right! There's no love story, so in order to pull off a show people will watch, create the drama...it always keeps the viewers entertained. She didn't get her 50/50 love, but a 70/30. CH said in his last two blogs that her mind and heart was still with Bentley, what kind of love story can develop after that.
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Post by Love_Me on Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:01 am

I can't wait until the seasons is over and Ashley has a chance to explain how much of her pinning away for Bentley was real vs drama created for the show.
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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:17 am

Love_Me wrote:I can't wait until the seasons is over and Ashley has a chance to explain how much of her pinning away for Bentley was real vs drama created for the show.

If she's with somebody now, ya think we'll get a straight answer on that one? LOL

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Post by Guest on Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:23 am

Did Ali ever address her 'breakdown/devastation' over Frank at the AFRC? Especially when Roberto came out with her on stage. I don't recall it being brought up at the AFRC was it. (I was too busy concentrating on hottie Chris Lambton to notice).

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Post by Alanna on Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:47 am

Gina wrote:Did Ali ever address her 'breakdown/devastation' over Frank at the AFRC? Especially when Roberto came out with her on stage. I don't recall it being brought up at the AFRC was it. (I was too busy concentrating on hottie Chris Lambton to notice).

Nope, Frank was quickly relegated to Justin Rego's status and Ali was busy staring at Roberto and gushing about him. I expect the same exact thing to happen with Ashley at ATFR, she'll say Bentley hurt her but it was only a few days and now she realizes what a real man is like etc. etc. etc.
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Post by pbmax on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:53 pm

Alanna wrote:
Gina wrote:Did Ali ever address her 'breakdown/devastation' over Frank at the AFRC? Especially when Roberto came out with her on stage. I don't recall it being brought up at the AFRC was it. (I was too busy concentrating on hottie Chris Lambton to notice).

Nope, Frank was quickly relegated to Justin Rego's status and Ali was busy staring at Roberto and gushing about him. I expect the same exact thing to happen with Ashley at ATFR, she'll say Bentley hurt her but it was only a few days and now she realizes what a real man is like etc. etc. etc.

I don't see how, when she's still aching for him. CH said in his blog that it's too short a time for her to get pass and get a prospective on things. Not his exact quote but close.
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Post by anders on Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:00 pm

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Love_Me wrote:I can't wait until the seasons is over and Ashley has a chance to explain how much of her pinning away for Bentley was real vs drama created for the show.

If she's with somebody now, ya think we'll get a straight answer on that one? LOL

I don't think we'd ever get a straight answer on that one, no matter what.
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