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Episode 6 - 6/27 - Discussion - Spoilers

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Post by sjcaligurl on Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:00 am

I don't see why she couldn't have poured a pitcher of water on him or something. LOL!

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Post by northernviewer on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:42 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I have a feeling that in between Ashley leaving Bentley's room satisfied that she now had closure, a period instead of a dot dot dot, and the time she did her PI where she said "Bentley if you're watch #@$% you" - I think at that point CH and the producers may have filled her in at that point what they knew about Bentley, cause there was no doubt in my mind that at that point, Ashley was truly over Bentley party time

You may be right, and IMO, it doesn't matter as long as she got it. I honestly don't know why some people don't think it's possible to quickly get over an "attachment" that formed in a matter of days, was based on deception, shallow as can be, and ended in humiliation. Once Ashley was clued in to what was really going on with Bentley, I think her attitude towards him took a total 180. They say there's a fine line between love and hate, and even though I think it's an exaggeration to say she felt either for Bentley, she definitely crossed that line.

I loved when she said something like... "why didn't you just call.... did you want a vacay" rotfl yep, she clued in real fast, there's hope for that girl giggling

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Post by ironcat on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:34 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I have a feeling that in between Ashley leaving Bentley's room satisfied that she now had closure, a period instead of a dot dot dot, and the time she did her PI where she said "Bentley if you're watch #@$% you" - I think at that point CH and the producers may have filled her in at that point what they knew about Bentley, cause there was no doubt in my mind that at that point, Ashley was truly over Bentley party time

You may be right, and IMO, it doesn't matter as long as she got it. I honestly don't know why some people don't think it's possible to quickly get over an "attachment" that formed in a matter of days, was based on deception, shallow as can be, and ended in humiliation. Once Ashley was clued in to what was really going on with Bentley, I think her attitude towards him took a total 180. They say there's a fine line between love and hate, and even though I think it's an exaggeration to say she felt either for Bentley, she definitely crossed that line.

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Post by bluwavz on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:34 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I have a feeling that in between Ashley leaving Bentley's room satisfied that she now had closure, a period instead of a dot dot dot, and the time she did her PI where she said "Bentley if you're watch #@$% you" - I think at that point CH and the producers may have filled her in at that point what they knew about Bentley, cause there was no doubt in my mind that at that point, Ashley was truly over Bentley party time

I also believe she was over him after meeting with him, but I don't believe the producers ever told her anything about what he was saying. I think she saw it all while watching the show. I have a feeling that whole PI was shot long after the the season was filmed once she had seen the first few episodes and the producers just wanted her to look better after the whole Bentley drama back lashed on them. Her hair was completely different in that PI. Plus in several TV and radio appearances she's said she was surprised by what she was seeing from Bentley on the show. If she truly thought he was a player and a bad boy after the meeting with him, I don't see how she could be surprised later on by what she saw from him.

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Post by northernviewer on Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:14 pm

I have a feeling that in between Ashley leaving Bentley's room satisfied that she now had closure, a period instead of a dot dot dot, and the time she did her PI where she said "Bentley if you're watch #@$% you" - I think at that point CH and the producers may have filled her in at that point what they knew about Bentley, cause there was no doubt in my mind that at that point, Ashley was truly over Bentley party time

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Post by ironcat on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:54 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Even as a Ben fan, I think I am ready to concede. She definitely has something special with JP. I do wonder....is she so into him because he is the most into her, by miles?! Hope it is a 2 way street. Anyway, I wish them luck. Ben seems happy from his tweets, so all is well.
I think the previews, the Ryan stuff....that's the stuff to create the doubt.

Ryan as next Bachelor? Don't know why all the negative stuff about him if they intend to do that??

I didn't watch til this morning. Almost expected more from the JP date, with posts that read BEST DATE EVER. It was nice.....not "best" though, LOL!
He seems like a sincere guy.

Aww Nutty! Sweet post! I'm sure it's a two way street. No way a woman doesn't fall in love with a man who looks at her and treats her the way JP does Ash. She'd have to be completely and totally mental. He makes her feel all the right things and absolutely adores her, it's so fun to watch.

Northern, I don't think Ben is anything like Wes, Jesse, etc. but I do think he's more of a frat boy/party boy than we're being led to believe on the show. There's nothing wrong with that though, he's really young and has plenty of time before he wants to get married and settled. And this made me laugh:

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I wondered about that too Anders. Could it be that they could only alot so many minutes toward their date and they chose just to air the evening portion? or maybe thieis always go into the night/early morning so she naps all afternoon to prepare?

HAHA! I think you might be right, their dates do seem to start in the evening and go to the night.

Agree completely, Alanna, regarding Ashley/JP and Ben. yes We've already seen that Ash's BL with guys that she thinks are nice but doesn't necessarily return the romantic feelings - she avoids the physical contact without hesitation. It is clear (to me anyway) from her BL with JP that she is not just settling for somebody to get through this - she clearly sees JP as much more than just a friend.

There's just no way I'd ever believe a JP F1 is her choosing someone as a default :lovekiss:

Ben is so sweet but I really don't get the feeling that he was ready to make any real commitment at the end of all this. That doesn't mean he won't be ready to meet somebody and start a relationship with somebody post-show but I just don't feel that Ashley would be the one post-show bubble.

Is part of JP's appeal to Ash the way he treats her? Absolutely, and why shouldn't it be, unfortuately too many women fall for guys in spite of the way they treat them. But Ashley has also called JP the most gorgeous man she has ever seen, so obviously she's physically attracted to him as well. She certainly appears to have a good time when she's with him. I don't know how compatible they are in terms of lifestyle, values, goals, etc, but presuming they discuss that and are on the same page, I think that pretty much covers everything you should look for when choosing a mate. I wouldn't call that settling or a default choice.

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Post by Bloomers on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:51 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Actually, I am quite disappointed.
I gave MF a great dating idea for this season, during last season--the sumo wrestling idea. Only the guys were not big like the normal sumo wrestlers--only in the same type attire.
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Why didn't they use your brilliant idea, I wonder? They could have flown to Japan and dressed the guys in mawashi belts so we could all swoon over their exposed rear ends. I can think of at least three of Ashley's guys I would like to see dressed like that. :fanningfan

I am trying to say I will pick me one of them out right now, but I just can't do it - even in jest. hehehe

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:27 pm

@Alanna wrote:
@nutty1 wrote:Even as a Ben fan, I think I am ready to concede. She definitely has something special with JP. I do wonder....is she so into him because he is the most into her, by miles?! Hope it is a 2 way street. Anyway, I wish them luck. Ben seems happy from his tweets, so all is well.
I think the previews, the Ryan stuff....that's the stuff to create the doubt.

Ryan as next Bachelor? Don't know why all the negative stuff about him if they intend to do that??

I didn't watch til this morning. Almost expected more from the JP date, with posts that read BEST DATE EVER. It was nice.....not "best" though, LOL!
He seems like a sincere guy.

Aww Nutty! Sweet post! I'm sure it's a two way street. No way a woman doesn't fall in love with a man who looks at her and treats her the way JP does Ash. She'd have to be completely and totally mental. He makes her feel all the right things and absolutely adores her, it's so fun to watch.

Northern, I don't think Ben is anything like Wes, Jesse, etc. but I do think he's more of a frat boy/party boy than we're being led to believe on the show. There's nothing wrong with that though, he's really young and has plenty of time before he wants to get married and settled. And this made me laugh:

@Northernviewer wrote:I wondered about that too Anders. Could it be that they could only alot so many minutes toward their date and they chose just to air the evening portion? or maybe thieis always go into the night/early morning so she naps all afternoon to prepare?

HAHA! I think you might be right, their dates do seem to start in the evening and go to the night.

Agree completely, Alanna, regarding Ashley/JP and Ben. yes We've already seen that Ash's BL with guys that she thinks are nice but doesn't necessarily return the romantic feelings - she avoids the physical contact without hesitation. It is clear (to me anyway) from her BL with JP that she is not just settling for somebody to get through this - she clearly sees JP as much more than just a friend.

There's just no way I'd ever believe a JP F1 is her choosing someone as a default :lovekiss:

Ben is so sweet but I really don't get the feeling that he was ready to make any real commitment at the end of all this. That doesn't mean he won't be ready to meet somebody and start a relationship with somebody post-show but I just don't feel that Ashley would be the one post-show bubble.

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Post by summerluvn on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:23 pm

[quote="Kashathediva"]Actually, I am quite disappointed.
I gave MF a great dating idea for this season, during last season--the sumo wrestling idea. Only the guys were not big like the normal sumo wrestlers--only in the same type attire.
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Why didn't they use your brilliant idea, I wonder? They could have flown to Japan and dressed the guys in mawashi belts so we could all swoon over their exposed rear ends. I can think of at least three of Ashley's guys I would like to see dressed like that. :fanningfan

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:15 pm

@agentcurls wrote:
:Welcome Ay_Jay_El! Old friend.

Maybe you like the 'ette because there is more eye candy for ya??

I think the Bachelor girls are more impressionable and therefore TPTB/Fleiss can coerce them into doing zany stuff. And women are naturally more gregarious and get drunk faster...so??

Hi curly

To address part 1: Yes, although except for Ashley Spivey and Chantal, the eye candy for Brad's season was rather disappointing. In fact, I lost the vast majority of my interest in the season when Spivey got the boot.

To address part 2: I think women, or at least the women they cast, are more prone to speaking their minds, therefore are easier to be edited into something they are not by TBTB. The men just seem very guarded and politically correct on camera. Which is why the show needs someone like me...but that's a topic for another day....

And as far as the alcohol thing...I think Tim McCormack blew any woman in the history of the franchise out of the water in terms of misusing alcohol...oh man, that was HILARIOUS. :awesome:

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Post by agentcurls on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:07 pm

Ay_Jay_El wrote:This is why the Bachelor is better than the 'ette. As most of us know, the entertainment of the show lies not within the Lead, but within the competing men/women. I don't know, it just seems the women they cast for the bachelor have much more dynamic and varying personalities and traits, where as the men they cast for the 'ette are all cut the same, boring, unidimensional, awkward cloth. Thoughts?

:Welcome Ay_Jay_El! Old friend.

Maybe you like the 'ette because there is more eye candy for ya??

I think the Bachelor girls are more impressionable and therefore TPTB/Fleiss can coerce them into doing zany stuff. And women are naturally more gregarious and get drunk faster...so??

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:01 pm

@Kashathediva wrote:
4) kissing contest--the contending bachelors are bilaterally injected with novacaine in both upper and lower jaws and then asked to perform. Best kisser gets --a lot of drool as he can't do much else for fear of biting his tongue off.
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Winner. I like this one giggling

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