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Bachelorette 7 - THE EDIT - Thread #1

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Post by Guest on Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:01 pm

Hmmm ... if it's Bentley vs. everyone else, exactly what was missing in the Bentley relationship? An emotional connection. The physical was certainly there, but he didn't give two hoots about who she was or what she was about. JP has the physical connection (which imo has come on way too fast), and Ben's is building (slow burn). But Ben has already been singled out as the emotional connection.

IDK, it looks like JP has everything Bentley had, maybe just not quite as much, but Ben has what Bentley was missing.


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Post by noobsleuth on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:52 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:As Bachelor/ette fans we tend to look back on previous seasons for editing clues. While I think it's important to do so...we see many of the same things season to season....I think that having Ashley as bachelorette may have caused lots of changes in the editing room. Never before have we had a bachelorette that is so out of her element (for her to know so little about Bentley and see him being "the one" at the end is just crazy). Because of the whole Bentley drama this may have forced TPTB to shift their traditional edits somewhat. This season is really Bentley vs. everyone else. In order for us to believe that Ashley has truly moved on from Bentley we're going to need to see that she has both a physical and emotional connection with someone. Right now, regardless of the traditional editing red flags that others are seeing, I still think it's JP as F1. Perhaps next week's date with Ben F. will help provide more clarity...we'll see.

Changing the edit is the only thing that makes sense right now. I wrote in another thread that it's too late for Ben. Three group dates and zero 1 on 1's and finally some interaction (in epi. 4!!!) ... in an old season... no way jose. This is nuts. If it is Ben I will feel completely robbed. We have connection coming from no where. Are we to believe that half way through the season he pops onto our screen and into the forefront? Sorry, don't buy it. F1's ARE NOT hidden...never have been.

-The Shayne show
-Melissa Rycroft (not shown in the fist episode) but shown in epi. 2 group date and 1 on 1 in epi. 3
-Ed and all of his crap... coming and going. Reminds me of Bentley a little
-Vienna and constant drama
-Roberto - awesome first date in epi. 3. Ali is constantly seen going to him. Gets FIR
-Brad -Breaking the rules for Emily, special picnics, 1 on 1 in epi. 3. Very prominent backstory that was part of the ultimate storyline.

If Ben is the F1 this is nuts. (EDIT wise lol) Ben reminds me of Reid.... hidden first kisses and much anticipated interaction that ultimately leads to nowhere.

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Post by agentcurls on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:37 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:As Bachelor/ette fans we tend to look back on previous seasons for editing clues. While I think it's important to do so...we see many of the same things season to season....I think that having Ashley as bachelorette may have caused lots of changes in the editing room. Never before have we had a bachelorette that is so out of her element (for her to know so little about Bentley and see him being "the one" at the end is just crazy). Because of the whole Bentley drama this may have forced TPTB to shift their traditional edits somewhat. This season is really Bentley vs. everyone else. In order for us to believe that Ashley has truly moved on from Bentley we're going to need to see that she has both a physical and emotional connection with someone. Right now, regardless of the traditional editing red flags that others are seeing, I still think it's JP as F1. Perhaps next week's date with Ben F. will help provide more clarity...we'll see.

I agree Good Post

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Post by philphan on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:36 pm

As Bachelor/ette fans we tend to look back on previous seasons for editing clues. While I think it's important to do so...we see many of the same things season to season....I think that having Ashley as bachelorette may have caused lots of changes in the editing room. Never before have we had a bachelorette that is so out of her element (for her to know so little about Bentley and see him being "the one" at the end is just crazy). Because of the whole Bentley drama this may have forced TPTB to shift their traditional edits somewhat. This season is really Bentley vs. everyone else. In order for us to believe that Ashley has truly moved on from Bentley we're going to need to see that she has both a physical and emotional connection with someone. Right now, regardless of the traditional editing red flags that others are seeing, I still think it's JP as F1. Perhaps next week's date with Ben F. will help provide more clarity...we'll see.

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Post by Nibbles22 on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:27 pm

You're right Bloomers ~ I do see the parallels with Ali's season.
It almost seems like the *kiss of death* for JP to be edited so
confident though. His chemistry with Ashley is off the charts in
my book. The two of them have a natural ease with one another,
that isn't evident in any of her other relationships thus far.

I guess what we will see is whether Ashley goes with the physical
attraction she has for JP, or the emotional connection she said she
had to Ben. Regardless of the RS spoilers, I'm leaning towards
Ben at this point. I love JP, and well ~ you know my history!! rofl

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Post by Bloomers on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:13 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Bloomers ~ that was a great post! I was waiting to hear your thoughts
this morning, along with JBF's (still waiting)... Anyhow, I agree that there
was a major shift last night. JP is definitely getting a physical edit, while
Ben F is getting the emotional, and Dino the friend card. I was pleasantly
surprised by Ames. He is in a league of his own.

I would not be the least bit surprised if Love Me's source in Fiji is correct,
and Ashley picks Ben F in the finale.

Thank you, Nibbles - and it is so good to see you over here. I have been missing you. :A-okay:

I still can't tell what is happening, but JP took a fall from his rather perfect lofty F1 perch last night.

We saw Roberto, but he was not as much of the focus as it was on Frank and Chris. When we did see Roberto, Ali was talking about how "hot" he was, but we didn't see Roberto acting negatively. We did not see the kinds of behavior like we saw out of JP last night.
The physical connection the way that Ali reported it was the same ( hot, hot hot), but the words from Roberto's mouth were not.

However, we did hear sweetheart Chris make some remarks about bringing on the confidence, "being the man for her husband", and we also saw him in the Iceland episode being very competitive with Tye. They were spelunking, and Chris wanted the rose badly. Ali appeared to pay a lot of attention to Chris, and he voiced his opinions, but she gave the group rose to Tye for always being there for her.

In some ways, the spelunking epedition with Chris, Tye and the guys where we saw Chris trying to "help" out and the competitive theme that came out reminds me of last night and the orphange work date and the whole competitive theme of it and the house.

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Post by agentcurls on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:12 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Any thoughts on what Ben's conflicts will be? The F1 always has something to overcome. I can see with JP that it might be his impatience with the process coupled with a little bit of jealousy. Ali thought Roberto was out of her league... Emily had to overcome her memory of her ex who passed away. The conflict that the f1 has usually emerges very early in the process. Just curious as to what Ben's would be?

The only think I can think of is that Ashley has said Ben hasn't had as much confidence as the others in the group setting...maybe that's his hurdle?

She really singled him out giving him the GD rose....she was reassuring him, big time. I was surprised at how much detail she went into upon giving him the rose, especially in front of the other guys.

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Post by Pattycake92 on Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:59 am

Any thoughts on what Ben's conflicts will be? The F1 always has something to overcome. I can see with JP that it might be his impatience with the process coupled with a little bit of jealousy. Ali thought Roberto was out of her league... Emily had to overcome her memory of her ex who passed away. The conflict that the f1 has usually emerges very early in the process. Just curious as to what Ben's would be?

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Post by Nibbles22 on Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:34 am

Bloomers ~ that was a great post! I was waiting to hear your thoughts
this morning, along with JBF's (still waiting)... Anyhow, I agree that there
was a major shift last night. JP is definitely getting a physical edit, while
Ben F is getting the emotional, and Dino the friend card. I was pleasantly
surprised by Ames. He is in a league of his own.

I would not be the least bit surprised if Love Me's source in Fiji is correct,
and Ashley picks Ben F in the finale.

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Post by nd4reality on Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:13 am

I too agree.

I said this before episode 4, JP has been shown "competative" right from episode 1 with camara placements of his facial reactions. He is now also getting the possesive/jealous edit together with Physical edit.

Ben F is now emerging as the emotional connection.

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Post by Kashathediva on Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:44 am

I agree. I think we are seeing the emergence of Ben F.


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Post by Bloomers on Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:43 am

Dino appeared to get the friend edit last night. It was interesting that the local's advice while certainly great marital advice was, "Don't try to win."
Was this just co-incidental, or is it subtle reflection on the competitiveness that was happening back at the house?

JP's competitive nature begins to show when the guys are discussing whether Dino will stay or go. We hear JP say that somebody has to go and that if Dino doesn't get a rose, that is more for the rest of them.

The guys begin to discuss whether Dino gets to kiss her, and it comes out that she kisses. Ben has kissed her, but he won't discuss the kiss.

JP begins to wonder how many others have kissed her, and he says, "It chaps my ass."

We see a jealous JP emerging.

Meanwhile, Dino and Ashley run through town and have fun. That night they talk, and she says that while she is still thinking about Bentley, Dino is helping her get back on track, so she gives him the rose.

During the group date, we see Ashley and Ben creating the mural. He appeals to her creative side.

During their 1-1, she tells him that he impressed her, and he says that she was buzzing around her. She says that is because she likes him.

She tells us that she has an "emotional connection" with Ben, and his kisses are good.

** We are seeing developing a physical connection with JP ("magical kisses) and an emotional connection with Ben.

Meanwhile, as narrated by Blake the whole house, including Ben and JP, are against the super positive - always "up", this season's Tenley, Ryan.
Since I am a stand on the corner, wave the flag as the parade goes by myself, I had no problem with his comparison of the soldiers, but I can imagine that being locked in the house 24/7 with an over-the-top "up" person constantly could get annoying.
At some point, you might want to take out his batteries for just a little while and let him run down.

Again, we get some less than stellar JP thoughts when we hear him confidently say, "A lot of people will freak out if Ryan gets the (group) rose tonight. I am right for her, and if I am right for her, Ryan can't be."

In giving the group rose, we hear Ashley say, " He's funny, and I'm really starting to feel something strong with him, so Ben F will you please accept this rose?

We hear JP's doubts for the first time. In a voice over we hear him say, "She makes me feel great, but it makes me nervous to go all in emotionally and to get committed. I don't know what is going through her head."

During the group time and his 1-1 at some point, we see a really physically interlude between them. Again, we hear her speak of JP's "magical" kisses, and that his kisses are the best.

We do hear a VO of JP say, " I am confident. I am into her, and she is into me."

At this point, she is strongly physically attracted to JP who she calls sexy.
She said her connection to BenF was emotional, and I think she made the artistic connection to him.

I believe that she and Ames connected cerebrally.
In the real world, she would most definitely have given Ames a very good shot. Plus Ames has so many fascinating experiences, and the scenery on the date itself was so enticing.

I myself was fascinated with Ames! However, I can see how someone like Ames is never going to win against 24 other brawny, hunky type bachelors on a show like this....


So, in the edit, what do I see?

I am not so sure that JP is the clear winner here. He may be the F1 in the end, but in Ep 4, his edit looked like an F2 with the competitiveness, the confidence, and the jealousy.


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