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Final Rose Ceremony - Screencaps - Thread #2

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Post by Guest on Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:52 pm

@Living wrote:

My fun is gained from evidence and facts. Speculation throws me off a bit as my imagination/thoughts can be strong. It is hard when I'm mixing facts/evidence with speculation because my/the imagination can go all over the place that has nothing to do with the show.

Example I could speculate that Ashley regretted sending William home, so she sends for William for the FRC and to prove his love, he shaves his head. Therefore the stripped shirt man is William because the man does not have hair at the back of his head. Therefore, William is F1 and Blake is F2 because William told Ashley to bring him back too.

I know the board is open for speculation, but sometimes, when one is following through logically on points/evidence to understand a situation, speculation can really throw it off. But, good. I guess William could be F1. Since Bentley came back, why not William. Or Ryan for that matter.

sorry, but I think we are all speculating to the same degree, using the evidence we see before us. To say that others are speculating and you are not is kinda silly. But it's okay, we just disagree about this. yes

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Post by Living on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:05 am

JBanana wrote:
@Living wrote:

My fun is gained from evidence and facts. Speculation throws me off a bit as my imagination/thoughts can be strong. It is hard when I'm mixing facts/evidence with speculation because my/the imagination can go all over the place that has nothing to do with the show.

Example I could speculate that Ashley regretted sending William home, so she sends for William for the FRC and to prove his love, he shaves his head. Therefore the stripped shirt man is William because the man does not have hair at the back of his head. Therefore, William is F1 and Blake is F2 because William told Ashley to bring him back too.

I know the board is open for speculation, but sometimes, when one is following through logically on points/evidence to understand a situation, speculation can really throw it off. But, good. I guess William could be F1. Since Bentley came back, why not William. Or Ryan for that matter.

sorry, but I think we are all speculating to the same degree, using the evidence we see before us. To say that others are speculating and you are not is kinda silly. But it's okay, we just disagree about this.

Happens every season. The fangs are starting to come out. Blatantly calling me/referring to me as silly. I wonder what it will be like just before the FRC/three weeks when it if finally revealed that JP is not F1. Can't wait! affraid

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Post by Peppermom on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:52 am

@Living wrote:
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@Living wrote:

My fun is gained from evidence and facts. Speculation throws me off a bit as my imagination/thoughts can be strong. It is hard when I'm mixing facts/evidence with speculation because my/the imagination can go all over the place that has nothing to do with the show.

Example I could speculate that Ashley regretted sending William home, so she sends for William for the FRC and to prove his love, he shaves his head. Therefore the stripped shirt man is William because the man does not have hair at the back of his head. Therefore, William is F1 and Blake is F2 because William told Ashley to bring him back too.

I know the board is open for speculation, but sometimes, when one is following through logically on points/evidence to understand a situation, speculation can really throw it off. But, good. I guess William could be F1. Since Bentley came back, why not William. Or Ryan for that matter.

sorry, but I think we are all speculating to the same degree, using the evidence we see before us. To say that others are speculating and you are not is kinda silly. But it's okay, we just disagree about this.

Happens every season. The fangs are starting to come out. Blatantly calling me/referring to me as silly. I wonder what it will be like just before the FRC/three weeks when it if finally revealed that JP is not F1. Can't wait! affraid

I don't think you're silly Living. I love all the different opinions. handwave
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Post by Living on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:45 am

Thanks Peppermom Smiley

I noticed 2 things that are significant that may be the signs Fleiss talked about.

1) One is the PI from Ashley at the beginning.
"- I am looking forward to this week because it is going to be very telling what is to come...
- Ryan is one of the guys that I've felt safe with. I love our conversations, I love his energy.
- I am feeling really good about Lucas, we had a great date togetherr in HK. He's just so real, genuine great guy.
- Ames is one of the most unique guys I have ever met. He's so sweet, so intelligent.
- I LOVE BEN, he is funny and there's so many things going for him.
- Constantine is just easy to talk to. He's easy to look at.
- JP just makes me feel comfortable, he makes me feel secure"

2) These 3 SCs. The difference of height between Ashley and Ben. In heels and without heels. Holding hands alla FRC (if that SC was of Ben).


On the other hand, things Ashley likes about Constantine, a) That he holds back a little bit, b) He's not trying to convince her to like him. c) He's not trying to sell himself. (all these are the opposite of JP).

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Post by anders on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:53 am

And she described Dino as her physical type = he and JP have nothing in common in that area. Colour me even more confused after last night's show.
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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:55 am

@anders wrote:And she described Dino as her physical type = he and JP have nothing in common in that area. Colour me even more confused after last night's show.
BUT Constantine and Ben are very much similiar in that aspect..........kinda sounds like Ben might very well be our guy. Also considering my source, I am really thinking that way now.

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Post by anders on Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:59 am

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@anders wrote:And she described Dino as her physical type = he and JP have nothing in common in that area. Colour me even more confused after last night's show.
BUT Constantine and Ben are very much similiar in that aspect..........kinda sounds like Ben might very well be our guy. Also considering my source, I am really thinking that way now.

Agreed. I still sometimes look at one and think I'm seeing the other. Usually it's only for a split second, but it is undeniable that they are physically similar in body and facial features.

I've thought since episode 3 that JP couldn't be F1 - based on edit alone. Since then i've seen a distinct eerie Chantal vs Emily parallel.
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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:07 am

@anders wrote:
Coastal wrote:
@anders wrote:And she described Dino as her physical type = he and JP have nothing in common in that area. Colour me even more confused after last night's show.
BUT Constantine and Ben are very much similiar in that aspect..........kinda sounds like Ben might very well be our guy. Also considering my source, I am really thinking that way now.

Agreed. I still sometimes look at one and think I'm seeing the other. Usually it's only for a split second, but it is undeniable that they are physically similar in body and facial features.

I've thought since episode 3 that JP couldn't be F1 - based on edit alone. Since then i've seen a distinct eerie Chantal vs Emily parallel.

Bingo!! I really feel that the edit that JP is getting just doesn't give him the F1 status. His jealousy tonight was very errie to watch.........almost dangerous errie!

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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:23 am

I've been watching both closely, since the group date and Ashley told everyone before she gave Ben the rose.....I have strong feelings for this person.

For the life of me, and I know editing will kill ya, I'm not seeing a whole lot of anything but kissing and more kissing with JP.....very physical.

And, this was the same night, GDR, where she claimed that she felt the kiss with Ben on an emotional level. So, I've had my eyes on this since then. Before that, I was all JP....but that was all that seemed to be there. Then it's ohhhhh Ben who??

I just think for all that she has described.....the better match is Ben. Whether she uses her head when chooses remains to be seen. Got my fingers crossed.

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Post by Living on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:32 am

To be honest, As far as I see, JP is too short to be GSG or BSG. Neither is he as tall as white shirt guy and stripped shirt guy.

Ashley has heels on and the difference in height will be much much smaller. But, this guy IS TALL. Right now, if it was JP, the height is the about same as when she is bare foot.

Nah! These two guys are not JP. I do not know where or when he comes in. But the 2 guys we have been shown so far are NOT JP.


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Post by nutty1 on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:34 am

@Living wrote:To be honest, As far as I see, JP is too short to be GSG or BSG. Neither is he as tall as white shirt guy and stripped shirt guy.

Ashley has heels on and the difference in height will be much much smaller. But, this guy IS TALL. Right now, if it was JP, the height is the about same as when she is bare foot.

Nah! These two guys are not JP. I do not know where or when he comes in. But the 2 guys we have been shown so far are NOT JP.


That's a good point, but the jaw outline compared to JP is what has me convinced it is him.
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Post by Guest on Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:45 am

@nutty1 wrote:
@Living wrote:To be honest, As far as I see, JP is too short to be GSG or BSG. Neither is he as tall as white shirt guy and stripped shirt guy.

Ashley has heels on and the difference in height will be much much smaller. But, this guy IS TALL. Right now, if it was JP, the height is the about same as when she is bare foot.

Nah! These two guys are not JP. I do not know where or when he comes in. But the 2 guys we have been shown so far are NOT JP.


That's a good point, but the jaw outline compared to JP is what has me convinced it is him.

What about the jaw line of Ryan.........has that been compared?? It might be worth a looksie??

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