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Post by GuardianAngel Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:06 pm

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Post by Guest Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:57 pm

Unless I'm missing something, V hasn't been active on twitter in days. Probably for the best.

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Post by cookielover12 Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:59 pm

She is kind of active on IG. She just liked Danielle M's post
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Post by Guest Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:01 pm

@cookielover12 Then good. She isn't isolating herself, so that's good.

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Post by ishkabaha Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:13 pm

She had two IG stories yesterday.  The first was the info for the American Red Cross Day of Giving.  The second was a quote:  Heal thyself, first.  The rest will come later.  -unknown.

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Post by happydays Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:13 pm

She also commented to danielle's post a day ago saying "this makes me smile"

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Post by chrissy1295 Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:16 pm

I love Vanessa and look forward to following her and whatever she has in store in her future. Hopefully she finds the person who cherishes her and gives her the world because that's what she deserves.
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Post by Skates Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:30 pm

ishkabaha wrote:She had two IG stories yesterday.  The first was the info for the American Red Cross Day of Giving.  The second was a quote:  Heal thyself, first.  The rest will come later.  -unknown.  

       -  IMO  -   This quote may have also been related to Nick's "Something Positive"...I think they both have been affected by the negativity in SM, media and public responses to their relationships...thus, they need to heal themselves to be strong...with that they have decided to allow nature to take its course...whether they will be back together or not in the future that will be up to natures course...I still think that the strongest reasons for their break up are long distance and personal goals gearing into different directions in their careers...there may have also been some complications with Vanessa's stays in the US and she needs to travel back and forth...it's kind of draining to do that...due to her projects on NBY she needs to stay more in Canada...rather than straining themselves with the long distance relationships, they have decided to give each other the freedom to connect with other people...when both of them have settled, and they have more freedom in moving around...they may look back and re-think everything, if the love between them are still there...   -  JMO  -

by Billysmom on Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:29 pm

I think she took nick at his word that everything was on the table, not that just her life was on the table. I'm not sure how ready he was to compromise. Personally and jmo I think he missed an opportunity to really grow into the kind of man for which he clearly has the potential.
I also think,  though of course I do not know, that it's possible he and/or they gave up too soon. I keep coming back to, joining two lives together at these ages is not easy....nick lived on his own for a while, not sure if Vanessa did, but we know she gets a tremendous amount of support in her hometown. Yes, some couples with more easygoing personalities might have a relatively easier time of it. But as half of a couple myself that includes two strong willed persons who met in their mid thirties, I can testify that not all couples have an easy go of it in the beginning. But that IMHO doesn't necessarily mean the baby should be thrown out with the bath water....... All jmo

Eta I just remembered the name of the couples counselor who appeared on Oprah several times and who IMHO really made a lot of sense....harville hendrix. Wish I could refer Nissa to his work. He claims that we unconsciously choose the very person to love who will bring up our core issues/insecurities/growth opportunities, and that that results in struggle, but that that is the purpose of relationships. Relationships are vehicles of growth, love laboratories, which serve as catalysts to bring out the best in us. Of course we don't include abusive relationships in this. If you think about it, his reasoning is not unlike the reason some people consciously choose a school or workplace or neighborhood specifically to be able to encounter diversity and people unlike themselves. At times this creates conflict, but it can also become a breeding ground for a far richer experience in life, and an individual with a much more welcoming heart. Loving someone just like oneself is easy.... Loving someone different, not so much. Ironically, Nissa had both very strong similarities and very strong differences.... I'm sure they've already learned so much from one another. It will be interesting to see to whom they gravitate in the future. I get why people think nick might need a sharleen type....but he wouldn't be the first person who could be friends with someone he doesn't have to live with or make accommodations for....just my .02

       -  IMO  -   I don't believe that compatibility is a big issue on Nick and Vanessa...even the most compatible of those couples have issues to iron out...it is just a matter of how much you are willing to put in as an effort...I have always thought although they have said they have tried their best...I still think that something could have been done more...I think the negativity and scrutiny from the public and the media have impacted them to the point wherein they have felt helpless and they felt the need to get some space to stay strong on their own...

       -  IMO  -   I don't think woman with Sharleen's personalities are good choices for Nick...Nick needs challenges and he likes to chase...Sharleen will be too boring for him...ideal best friends sometimes are not the best choices for life partners...if Sharleen has been Nick ideals, he would have pursued her long before...I think Vanessa is still his best choice...because they are similar and different in some ways...and the differences I believe are workable if they are willing to work through them...both sides have to make sacrifices...   -  JMO  -


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Post by Mochaginj Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:41 pm

@Skates I love your take on Nick and Vanessas situation. It is similar to mine. I'd like to know your thoughts on why Vanessa and a couple of her friends have unfollowed him.. I have mixed feelings on that.

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Post by Skates Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:06 am

Mochaginj wrote:@Skates I love your take on Nick and Vanessas situation.  It is similar to mine. I'd like to know your thoughts on why Vanessa and a couple of her friends have unfollowed him.. I have mixed feelings on that.


       -  IMO  -   Do we have proof that Vanessa and couple of her friends have unfollowed him??...Who are these friends though??...

       -  IMO  -   ...it's possible that Nick has commitment issues, thus Vanessa needs to pull out of the engagement...it is also possible that Vanessa is hurting more even though they have agreed on breaking the engagement...I believe that Vanessa is more invested with Nick...she is the one who has given up her life in Canada to be with Nick...in Nick's situations, after being heart broken for so many times, he may have started to get used to that kind of feelings...thus, his statement of 'Something Positive' may have triggered some beautiful memories during her stay in the US...and her friends are just respecting her emotions...I am not sure if these unfollowed moves are signs of anger or regrets...   -  IMO  -

         -  IMO  -   Regardless, even if Vanessa has unfollowed Nick, if she wants to know and stalk Nick on his IG or Twitter, she could still do it randomly on her own...to me it wouldn't mean anything other than she is not tracking his every move in public...and, she doesn't need to know everything about him...that may have lessen the hurt she is feeling right now...but, if they are supportive of each other, and they are still talking...I think unfollowing will not impact their relationships...if they are not on talking terms, however, which I really doubt...then that would mean she is distancing herself from him...   -  JMO  -


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Post by notarose Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:08 am

Mochaginj wrote:@Skates I love your take on Nick and Vanessas situation.  It is similar to mine. I'd like to know your thoughts on why Vanessa and a couple of her friends have unfollowed him.. I have mixed feelings on that.

IDK which friends as I've never followed her friends or family but just did a quick ck of public accounts and the same family members who followed Nick still do, her best friend Jen still does as do several other friends she was recently pictured with.

My point of view is that some of the baggage is now gone. Number 1 is negative media that painted Vanessa as unliked in the house, continued with that theme on DWTS, etc and that fed trolls who were nasty things on her SM. After that, both Vanessa and Nick had things that irritated them about the show which are now mote. Nick said V had difficulty with the premise of him dating others while falling in love with her. Nick himself was not impressed with the ring (probably related to it having been "chosen" before) nor the proposal day stating they had talked about a new proposal. And as was brought forth by media, the actual proposal was altered showing V and N out of order. All that is now done.

I see them at square 1. However they choose to define their relationship over time is what it will be. As for now, they are saying they care for each other which in a world where so many care so little I think it's great that they are trying to rise above.


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Post by Skates Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:16 am

notarose wrote:
Mochaginj wrote:@Skates I love your take on Nick and Vanessas situation.  It is similar to mine. I'd like to know your thoughts on why Vanessa and a couple of her friends have unfollowed him.. I have mixed feelings on that.

IDK which friends as I've never followed her friends or family but just did a quick ck of public accounts and the same family members who followed Nick still do, her best friend Jen still does as do several other friends she was recently pictured with.

My point of view is that some of the baggage is now gone. Number 1 is negative media that painted Vanessa as unliked in the house, continued with that theme on DWTS, etc and that fed trolls who were nasty things on her SM. After that, both Vanessa and Nick had things that irritated them about the show which are now mote. Nick said V had difficulty with the premise of him dating others while falling in love with her.  Nick himself was not impressed with the ring (probably related to it having been "chosen" before) nor the proposal day stating they had talked about a new proposal. And as was brought forth by media, the actual proposal was altered showing V and N out of order. All that is now done.

I see them at square 1.  However they choose to define their relationship over time is what it will be. As for now, they are saying they care for each other which in a world where so many care so little I think it's great that they are trying to rise above.


         -  IMO  -   I have strong feelings that it is not the end...but, it is just a temporary break to pursue their own careers and to self-improve...to stay away from media scrutiny...if they have accomplished that they may get back together at the right time...when they are both ready to settle down...   -  JMO  -
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