The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - #5 - Media - Tweets - IG - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - Discussion

albean99 wrote:I don't see a magazine article as indication that TPTB are cleaning up Nick's image. It's just the same kind of article we see every season. The only real change is done by editing imo and that's yet to be seen.

Neither Shawn or Nick seem to be on SM right now so need a sighting this weekend unless Kaitlyn isn't having a SHV. Still not sure about the spoilers but would love to prove RS wrong.  :Nod:

IMO, it seems that Nick is the happiest of the two guys at this time.  I compare Nick's reaction to last season, so something has changed for the positive this season for Nick and he is at peace and/or happy with the outcome.  JMO.

I don't see any of this as villainizing Kaitlyn at all. But that's me. If anything, the US Weekly article is helping her case (she let Nick on because knew him for a while and really liked him -- she didn't really want to hurt the other guys, and he was there for the "right reasons"); and the People article talks about how hurt she is by what people are saying and that she was acting how she would act in any relationship (having sex to see if they were compatible). Obviously, others may have their own opinions, but to me, both articles did not change my own positive opinions about Kaitlyn and only reinforced them.

And, IMO, if things do go down the way RS says they do, I won't think any less of her in that case either. It will just mean that she tried but it didn't end up working out. Maybe some of it will have been messed up by her choices -- but some of it is the nature of the show and having to date and try to make sufficient connections with multiple people in a short amount of time and with hopes of getting engaged.

Whatever it is looks like this season of the bette is going to be gold from next Monday's episode. Flexes was unto something when he twitted it's better than last season.

kimberlyg wrote:I don't see any of this as villainizing Kaitlyn at all.  But that's me.  If anything, the US Weekly article is helping her case (she let Nick on because knew him for a while and really liked him -- she didn't really want to hurt the other guys, and he was there for the "right reasons"); and the People article talks about how hurt she is by what people are saying and that she was acting how she would act in any relationship (having sex to see if they were compatible).  Obviously, others may have their own opinions, but to me, both articles did not change my own positive opinions about Kaitlyn and only reinforced them.

And, IMO, if things do go down the way RS says they do, I won't think any less of her in that case either.  It will just mean that she tried but it didn't end up working out.  Maybe some of it will have been messed up by her choices -- but some of it is the nature of the show and having to date and try to make sufficient connections with multiple people in a short amount of time and with hopes of getting engaged.

I don't disagree. I really like Kaitlyn and don't think she's a villain at all. But that's just my personal opinion, not the story line that I think TPTB are selling and setting up. While both articles this week may have helped her in the moment, I think they will end up just amplifying the final story TPTB are creating in the long run. It will be - but if she thought it was love at first sight with Shawn and liked Nick so much, why would she be a fool and break both of their hearts? She can't even date one of them after sleeping with them all? She's a mess and her own worst enemy!

We're already starting to see that play out here. And it's totally fine for people to feel that way...but TPTB are deliberately setting the context for that.

My own personal opinions aside (which is that they are doing Kaitlyn dirty this year), I do think they are trying to make her the fool and the villain of her own story in the public's eye. Anything to soften the blow in this moment is only meant to heighten the sense of betrayal and shock at the end. JMO.

My girlfriends who watch simply for entertainment are loving this season. They thought Monday's episode was pure gold .

First of all, Kait snapped herself watching tv in bed last night, idk if she was alone but it seems very un-Kait-like to be in LA and not go out, so I think that's a little interesting.

Second, Molly posted that Kait is adorable and she can't wait to watch the rest of her journey. It seems to me like the folks in the know- Molly, Britt, Becca- aren't acting like this had a bad/unhappy ending. I guess they could just be supportive of Kait's choice to be alone but it doesn't ring quite true to me.

Also, I haven't seen any sightings of either Nick or Shawn the past day, so no idea where they might be.

IMO, if the information found doesn't add up to the Spoiler, it means that the Spoiler is incorrect. During Des' season, the information didn't add up, and we know how that ended. What's clear to me is that Nick is her F1 and that they are engaged.

albean99 wrote:I don't see a magazine article as indication that TPTB are cleaning up Nick's image. It's just the same kind of article we see every season. The only real change is done by editing imo and that's yet to be seen.

Neither Shawn or Nick seem to be on SM right now so need a sighting this weekend unless Kaitlyn isn't having a SHV. Still not sure about the spoilers but would love to prove RS wrong.  :Nod:

I agree with the bolded. To boot, Nick is "their" guy. There is no way they will promo him badly in articles etc.


Kailtyn appears to be busy these days. Perhaps if there is a SHV it may be slightly differed and not exactly on the weekend.

After reading the US article, I don't think it totally "cleaned up" Nick's image. Yes, he clearly went on "for the right reasons", but IMO some readers will interpret his pursuit of Kaitlyn as obsessive (which is the way he was portrayed on Andi's season), and it is reinforced again how "unlikable" he is/was among the other guys, and also alludes to this being partly his own doing because of his "win at any cost" attitude. So I suspect that readers who already had a negative impression of Nick are not going to be softened much by reading that article.

Alanna wrote:First of all, Kait snapped herself watching tv in bed last night, idk if she was alone but it seems very un-Kait-like to be in LA and not go out, so I think that's a little interesting.

Second, Molly posted that Kait is adorable and she can't wait to watch the rest of her journey. It seems to me like the folks in the know- Molly, Britt, Becca- aren't acting like this had a bad/unhappy ending. I guess they could just be supportive of Kait's choice to be alone but it doesn't ring quite true to me.

Also, I haven't seen any sightings of either Nick or Shawn the past day, so no idea where they might be.

From Shawn's thread yesterday: 
bluwavzI found a possible Shawn sighting from today. She spelled his first name Sean but I looked through her feed and she lives in Connecticut, so I'm guessing she means the guy from the B'ette.

LJ ‏@SmokinLadyJ 8h8 hours ago
Sean booth is at my kids school right now

sdmom wrote:

Alanna wrote:First of all, Kait snapped herself watching tv in bed last night, idk if she was alone but it seems very un-Kait-like to be in LA and not go out, so I think that's a little interesting.

Second, Molly posted that Kait is adorable and she can't wait to watch the rest of her journey. It seems to me like the folks in the know- Molly, Britt, Becca- aren't acting like this had a bad/unhappy ending. I guess they could just be supportive of Kait's choice to be alone but it doesn't ring quite true to me.

Also, I haven't seen any sightings of either Nick or Shawn the past day, so no idea where they might be.

From Shawn's thread yesterday: 
bluwavzI found a possible Shawn sighting from today. She spelled his first name Sean but I looked through her feed and she lives in Connecticut, so I'm guessing she means the guy from the B'ette.

LJ ‏@SmokinLadyJ 8h8 hours ago
Sean booth is at my kids school right now

Thanks, I actually saw she posted that, but I meant since Kait was done filming the Family Feud episode. Kait hasn't been spotted either so maybe/ hopefully it's good news

Tonight Chicago Blackhawks is playing. Let's see if Nick is spotted at a bar. He was watching the past two games in bars.