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Post by Aunties_Love on Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:38 pm

Just adding to what GA started.  So sorry for the bad quality of pics as I had to take them off of old video. Up until Bach 15, the F3's sat on the opposite side of the room as they are now.

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Post by GuardianAngel on Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:54 pm

Excellent read to give you insight on production and the length's they go to.

@littlereddress wrote:An excerpt from a new bachelor book.  I have a feeling more will be coming.  Interesting that this book is released after this season ends.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/27/the-std-that-keeps-most-contestants-from-competing-on-the-bachelor/


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Post by GuardianAngel on Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:40 pm

Clues possible switch.

@GuardianAngel wrote:This is all a combination of my speculation, my opinions and guesses just from my personal view on the sleuthing so far.

Lauren is cast due to suspected picture/meeting Arie prior

Becca is cast, ex contacts TPTB or vice versa - scripted ex storyboard is written - ex offers info about Becca

Filming starts - After first night, TPTB ask Arie who are the top 4 (potential HTD orders, and slotting the dates) Arie states Lauren is #1 Becca #2 and others

Filming ends - spoilers are out

Sleuthers noticed Arie liking Lauren's SM early December.

Premiere - over a month goes by

Lauren has a skimpy entrance, quick, 2 - 3 seconds, no mention of the suspected picture.

Becca gets 1st 1:1 Becca gets a fantastic date - clothes shoes jewellry- first date of the season goes out with a bang, for the spoiled F1, viewers are feeling true love is in the air.

No other F1 gets the first 1:1. Courtney Ben's season got the second 1:1 of the 2nd epi.

Here are others:

Ben F Lindzi F2 - week 3

Brad - Ashley H 1st 1:1
Emily F1 week 3-7
Chantal F2 - week 4

Sean - Des 2nd 1:1
- Lesley M F2 week 3
- Catherine F1 week 6

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Clarie F2 - 1st 1:1
Nikki F1 - week 5 & 7

Chris
McKenzie 1st 1:1
Whitney first 1:1 3rd week

Ben
Caila first 1:1
Lauren F1 week 3
JoJo F2 - week 4

Arie
Becca week 2 & 7
Lauren week 6 & 7

Storyboard - Falls in love with two people -  looking for a switch season. Arie is into Lauren. Arie doesn't think Lauren will accept his proposal, maybe due to multiple proposals if true, or some other info we don't know or her hesitancy/fear as we have seen in the past F1's TPTB convince Arie, she doesn't want a proposal and he can't just ask to date.

Edit suddenly showing Lauren from MIA to a Wow girl to much more personality - including emotional Arie falling for her, so emotional he had to step away to talk to producers

Viewers expecting Becca to be the F1 due to spoilers, but now watching the epi's, it appears he wanted Lauren.

Becca's ex goes to Peru to do whatever. Arie has no choice, doesn't matter what the ex has to say, he can't choose Lauren TPTB want a proposal. Chooses Becca.

Less than three weeks after filming Arie is liking Lauren's SM. Arie tells TPTB he's not happy. Things won't work with Becca, he needs to contact Lauren.

By this time viewers are confused why he didn't choose Lauren to begin with, but if you think you know the spoilers, just watch. A dramatic turn of events, Arie fell in love with two people but was conflicted. Lauren wasn't sure she was on the same page as him.  He split with Becca big coincidence they caught it all on film. He reached out to Lauren. Big coincidence they have it all on film. Storyboard complete, on to the next season.
The use of words such as "safe" and the lead not knowing if they will choose the right one.

The aired F2 gets an elaborate suite complete with their own pool.
The aired F1 gets a tent in the middle of the dessert with no bathrooms.


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Post by GuardianAngel on Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:53 pm

Colour of F1's dresses.

@umngirl wrote:Here’s a quick rundown for final 1 dress color
Becca- Black
Vanessa- Black
Lauren B- royal blue
Whitney- Black
Nikki- blue
Catherine- gold
Courtney- Black
Emily- pale pink
Vienna- turquoise
Melissa- yellow
Shayne- pale yellow/cream
N/A (brads 1.0)
Tessa- sea foam green

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Post by Aunties_Love on Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:13 pm

HERE IS WHAT I HAVE FOR STATS:


BETTE STATS =========== WHO HAD THE FIRST ID'S IN SEASONS AND RANKING AND FIR'S OF THE SEASON

S1)  TRISTA-----  no ID's till epi 3 when Russ, Charlie, and Ryan all had dates...all in order
S2)  MEREDITH-----  Rick in epi 2  Rick was F10--------F1) IAN had ID in epi 3
S3)  JEN---------- KEITH in epi 2 Keith was F7-----------F1) JERRY had ID in epi 4------FIR is Keith(F8)
S4)  DEANNA------- GRAHAM in epi 2 was F4----------- F1) JESSE had ID in epi 4-----FIR is Jesse(F1), Jeremy(F3),
S5)  JILLIAN--------JAKE in epi 2 and was F7........... F1) ED had ID in epi 3------------FIR IS DAVID (F11)
S6)  ALI-------------FRANK in epi 2 and was F3..........F1) ROBERTO had ID in epi 3--------FIR is Roberto(F1), Justin(F7)
S7)  ASHLEY-------WILLIAM in epi 2 and was F10.........F1) JP had ID in epi 3 ------------FIR is Ryan P(F5)
S8)  EMILY--------RYAN in epi 2 and was F8------------F1) JEF had ID in epi 5 ----------FIR is DOUG(F6)
S9)  DESIREE----BROOKS in epi 2 and was F3--------F1) CHRIS had ID in epi 5--------FIR is Drew(F2), Zack W(F4), Michael G(F5), Ben(F9), Bryden(F10), Nick M(F17)
S10) ANDI--------ERIC in epi 2 and was F12------------F1) JOSH M had ID in epi 5------FIR is Nick V(F2)
S11) KAITLYN---CLINT in epi 2 and was F16---------F1) SHAWN had ID in epi 5 and was FIR
S12) JOJO-------DEREK in epi 2 and was F7----------F1) JORDAN had ID in epi 5 and was FIR
S13) RACHEL---PETER in epi 2 and was F2----------F1) BRYAN had ID in epi 5 and was FIR
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Post by Aunties_Love on Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:32 pm

@Aunties_Love wrote:
IMO, there has been other F1's that has had public first dates.....look at Shawn. He was kayaking down the canal in the middle of town with lots of pics taken of their date so not unthinkable IMO.


I can see this as a topic that will get broached so will bring it up first. Listing of epi 4 dates and standings

Jill's season started the longer seasons so will start there
S5 Jillian ........F2 Kiptyn had epi 4 ID>>>>>>>ID1( epi had ID, 2/1, GD) PRIVATE
S6 Ali......F2 Chris had epi 4 ID>>>>>>>>ID2(epi had 2 ID, GD) PRIVATE
S7 Ashley...... F3 Constantine had epi 4 ID1//// Ames(F4) had ID2>>>>>>>>(epi had 2 ID, GD) PUBLIC
S8 Emily........ F5 Doug had epi 4 ID>>>>>>(epi had 1 ID, 2/1, GD) PUBLIC
S9 Desiree...... none in F4 had ID, (epi had 2 ID, GD)
S10 Andi..... F4 Marcus had ID2>>>>>(epi had 2 ID, GD) PUBLIC
S11 Kaitlyn... F5 Jared had ID>>>>>(epi had 1 ID, 2 GD) PRIVATE
S12 Jojo...... F4 Luke had ID>>>>>>(epi had 1 ID, 2/1, GD) PRIVATE
S13 Rachel...F4 Dean had ID>>>>>>(epi had 2 ID, GD) PRIVATE


same seasons with F1 dates:

S5.................PRIVATE
S6.................PRIVATE
S7.................PRIVATE
S8.................PUBLIC
S9................ PRIVATE
S10...............PUBLIC
S11.............. PUBLIC
S12..............PUBLIC
S13..............PUBLIC

This goes to show, IMO, a lot of the F1's from the past have had public dates. Around people, with lots of pics taken.

All IMO
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Post by Aunties_Love on Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:23 am

@Aunties_Love wrote:
@CamiLane 11 wrote:I did some research and if anyone has more info from other season about this please let me know. When 3 guys each season get two 1 on 1 dates they all usually make it to the F4. Then in recent season with this happening one of the guys that got two 1 on 1 dates in season gets eliminated at the F4 rose ceremony. I looked back at this until Desiree’s season but Des doesn’t count because the guy who she eliminated at F4 was a guy who only had one 1 on 1 date the whole season. So starting for Andi’s season and so on up until rachel’s the F4 elimination has been a guy who had two 1 on 1 dates. If this pattern follows this season since Garrett is the supposed front runner I’d say it’s either going to Blake or Colton eliminated at the RC. But if history doesn’t follow then it’s anyone’s game with Jason, Blake and Colton all up in the air for elimination. IMO it seems like Jason is in 4th place with the other 3 guys getting two 1 on 1 dates but that could mean 1 of those 3 guys will be eliminated. Just thought this was an interesting stat. Let me know your thoughts.


I am not exactly sure what you are saying so....

to get a more accurate stats sake, lets take this back to the earlier seasons when Jillian was the first one that started the longer seasons. I am counting in Ali's and Des's no matter how controversal the endings are.

Her season was different because HTD's happened earlier as when they went overseas, they never returned till the end.

In that season, all F4 had 2 ID's


Ali-----all 4 had 2 ID's
Ashley------Ames had only 1 ID and was let go at F4
Emily-------Sean had 1 ID and let go at F3, Chris had 1 ID and let go at F4
Desiree-----Drew had 1 ID, was F2, Brooks had 2 ID's and was F3, Zach had 1 ID and was F4
Andi-------Chris had 1 ID, was F3, Marcus had 2 ID's and was F4
Kaitlyn-----Shawn, F1 had 1 ID, Nick F2 had 1 ID, Ben F3 had 2 ID, Chris F4 had 1 ID
Jojo-----Jordan F1 had 2 ID's, Robby F2 had 1 ID, Chase F3 had 1 ID, Luke F4 had 2 ID's
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Post by GuardianAngel on Fri May 04, 2018 11:09 am

Actual filming order of FD's.


per RS Becca's season Posted May 2/18
RS posted FD's  1. Jason 2. Garrett and 3. Blake's - tomorrow (May 3rd)


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@Aunties_Love wrote:
@Diana wrote:Does the F1 always get the last fantasty date (during actual filming not the order they air them?) RS posted Jason had the first one, Garrett second and Blake's is tomorrow.

I am just curious.

This is the first time in a while I think I think all of the final 3. Good luck Becca.

These are the only filming schedules that we have that WEREN'T filled in after the fact, or filled in as shown...


BETTE S8 wrote:
9th episode - Curaçao:
4/28: Travel
4/29: Travel
4/30: Fantasy Date #1 - Klein Curaçao (Sean Lowe)
5/1: Off
5/2: Fantasy Date #2 - Sailing Ship Insulinde, Knip Bay (Jef Holm)
5/3: Off
5/4: Fantasy Date #3 - Jonalisa Catamaran, swimming with dolphins (Arie Luyendyk, Jr.)
5/5: Rose Ceremony
Eliminated: Sean Lowe


BETTE S10 wrote:Episode 9 - FDs (3 - 2)
4/28: FD #1 -> Nick Viall
4/29: Travel/Off
4/30: FD #2 -> Chris Soules
5/01: Travel/Off
5/02: FD #3 -> Josh Murray
5/03: 9th Rose Ceremony





BACH 18 wrote:Epi 9 FD
oct 31/ Nov 1:  Travel to St. Lucia
nov 2: FD1
nov 3: FD2     Dennery, St. Lucia   Andi's date
nov 4: FD 3
nov 5 day off
nov 6 RC #9  Andi left on own so no traditional rc



BACH 20 wrote:Epi 9  FD   -   Sandal's Royal Plantation / Sandal's Ochi Riviera
11/5-6  arrive at resort
11/7 - FD1 - Caila - Caila, fireworks @11PM - ocean swim - all at Sandal's Royal Plantation
11/8 - Caila seen walking around Sandal's Ocho Grand Riviera Resort
11/9 - FD2 - Heli seen flying around resort - Jojo
11/10 - day off
11/10 - Ochi Riviera ballroom closed off from before dinner till past midnight as tv filming was happening there - per source
11/11 - FD3 - Lauren - Ocean date
11/12 - RC - Caila eliminated

@GuardianAngel wrote:

May 3/18
@1funnyfish wrote:Bryan went last on Rachel's season, according to Rachel on Eric's podcast today.

http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t4782p552-bachelorette-14-becca-kufrin-media-sm-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-4#1319126

@Ash2214 wrote:Just off the top of my head for previous F1’s, I know that Josh, original Lauren B, and Jordan all had their FD’s filmed last. The F2’s from those seasons - Nick, JoJo, and Robby all had their FD’s filmed second.

I honestly just assumed that location for the HTD played a big part since Jordan’s HTD was filmed last and in CA, so it’s kind of interesting that Garrett had it second, but who knows. It might not mean anything at all.

Andi F1 Josh FD filmed last - F2 filmed second
JoJo F1 Jordan FD filmed last - F2 filmed second
Ben F1 Lauren FD filmed last - F2 filmed second



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Post by GuardianAngel on Fri May 04, 2018 2:32 pm

I know the order of filming for HTD IMO is based on location however putting this here to see how long between HTD and FD order.

HTD's
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Per RS spoiler today:  

Jason, April 18th, Buffalo, NY
Blake,  April 20th, Bailey, CO
Colton, April 22, Aurora, CO
Garrett, April 24, Mancteca, CA


Comparing FD filming order.
Jason
Garrett
Blake

She wouldn't have seen Jason since his HTD and after 3 other HTD's after him. Wait time 3 HTD's.

Garrett would have been the last person she was with on HTD's. Wait time - 1 FD

Blake would have to wait two HTD's after him, and two FD's. Wait time 2 HTD's 2 FD's.


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Post by pavalygurl on Fri May 04, 2018 2:59 pm

@GuardianAngel

I looked at the days between and Garrett waited the shortest amount of time and Blake the longest.

Jason HTD 4/18 to FD 4/29=11 days

Garrett HTD 4/24 to FD 5/1=7 days

Blake HTD 4/20 to FD 5/3=13 days

eta: I was just thinking. They are kind of bound by geog/family availability on the HTDs. Maybe the FDs are dependent on where/what FD Becca would like for each guy? and the resulting travel/hotel availabilty? Add in there is some speculation based on RS, reddit that Thailand may not have been the original choice for destination of FDs and they went to a back up location. There are a lot of variables and at this point IDK the method to tptb's madness laugh out loud.

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Post by GuardianAngel on Mon May 07, 2018 8:25 pm

Adding to FD's order of filming.

Ali

Filmed 1. Roberto F1 2. Chris F2 3. Frank F3.


I’ve actually never told anyone this so this could be a juicy detail but Roberto was my first overnight date, then it was Chris and Frank was my last one. I knew it was [down to] Roberto or Frank. I was still torn a bit but I was pretty sure it was Roberto [who was going to be the final one]
Read more at http://www.realitytea.com/2013/02/08/former-bachelorette-ali-fedotowsky-shares-major-behind-the-scenes-dirt-sex-was-a-vicious-cycle-for-bachelor-sean-lowe/#FUPqoHtURJ7E0pBD.99


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Post by GuardianAngel on Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:15 pm

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@Aunties_Love wrote:Just adding to what GA started.  So sorry for the bad quality of pics as I had to take them off of old video.  Up until Bach 15, the F3's sat on the opposite side of the room as they are now.

BETTE 8



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