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Post by pavalygurl Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:16 pm

sophienette wrote:Slow mo coming once I've had dinner Smiley

Thanks sophie!

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:48 pm

OK here is the slow mo video... havent been able to add the subtitles sad



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TExt is:

All I want in life is love.
And it's hard to watch other women fall in love
With someone you're falling in love with.
it's really hard.

This is crazy.

I don't want to hurt him.

Guys, I didn't expect this.

I can't do this right now.

Becca: We all care so much now,and it's intense.

Lauren b.: I'm completely in love with Ben.
He's literally the guy of my dreams.
But that uncertainty
Of not knowing where he is
in the other relationships
Gets stronger and stronger.

I am in love with him.
Like, if he were to get down on one knee
And propose to me right now, like, i would say yes.

I know that I'm in love with you.
You have exceeded all of my expectations.
And I do love you.
Jojo: When I envision a life with Ben,
I know it'll be full of excitement and pure happiness.
But I don't think there's going to be
a single second where I'm not nervous
Until he's down on one knee.

Ben: Whoo!

Emily: I had no idea
Falling in love with Ben could happen this fast.
I can't believe I just met Ben's parents.
Ben and I are falling in love,
But I'm terrified to be heartbroken.

Ben: I know I'm in love with two women here.

I'm conflicted, and I'm confused about that.

Ben: I don't know what I'm gonna do, man.
I just...
I didn't
I thought it was gonna be clear, and it's just

What you're contemplating right now,
That would absolutely change everything.

I told two women this week that I love them.

Honestly, I do love you.

Ben: This is really hard for me
Because I've known I'm in love with you for a while, as well.

I love both of them.
They're too good to walk away from.
And I just don't know.

I have to say goodbye to a woman that doesn't deserve it.
Saying goodbye to her doesn't feel right,
And this is the biggest mistake I've made.
I want to keep her in my life.
I don't want to say goodbye,
'cause that's how much I love her.
I'm about to get on one knee and ask a woman to marry me.
Unfortunately, I just love somebody else...
More.

Ben: Any other time,
I couldn't imagine saying goodbye to you.
But I know that I'm always gonna miss you.
And now I'm gonna ask a woman
To love me for the rest of her life.
[ laughing ] I'm ready. Really ready.
[ ringing ]
Hello?

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Post by Litta123 Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:21 pm

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Post by Lucas15 Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:09 pm

sophienette wrote:OK here is the slow mo video... haven't been able to add the subtitles sad
Direct:
https://vid1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh536/sophienette/ben%20bach/Promo%20End%20E06/PrevE06slow.mp4
Text is:

Linking to Sophie's gracious slo-mo version of the latest season preview and using her transcriptions of the audio. I also used this YouTube "full motion" version because it was easier to detect the edits in the audio:



My attempt here was to clarify in my own perception how they were editing the preview to create an illusion of things that is misleading so viewers will think something else could have happened. I initially was going to do the entire preview, then (when I saw how much work and tedious the process was) I decided to do just Ben, JoJo and Lauren B and now have decided to narrow it down further to just two scenes of Ben (because JoJo and Lauren really didn't show much unexpected). I followed a certain formula to attempt to show how this was put together and where edits were made or questionable material was included. IMO things have different degrees of significance.

It's hard to fake a scene where we see two people talking and can see their lips moving "in sync" with the audio and mostly can read lips well enough to know if they are really saying what we are hearing. So anytime we see someone say something and what we hear seems to match their lips, I put what they said in quotes - like this:

"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood"

When someone is heard but not seen it's easy to fake what they seem to have said. It could have been said then, or some other time about a completely different situation, so it deserves a degree of skepticism. If we hear someone say something but don't see them as they say it, I used ^^ to indicate this. Like this:

^And I'm so glad you're here to share it with me.^

So these two sentence fragments might look like this:

"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood" ^And I'm so glad you're here to share it with me.^

Now when audio is recorded from different microphones or in different locations you can tell. Each microphone and each location will have an "acoustic signature" that's different. There will be a difference between recording something in a tiled bathroom than recording the same person using the same mic but in a carpeted and curtained furnished room. Put those two fragments together and you can hear the difference and with a little practice pick up what they did. Where I found them doing this I used the symbol <> to indicate an apparent audio edit - a frankenbite - two fragments from different times (and perhaps places and / or different microphones) put together to seem like one long sentence. Here would be an example:

"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood" <> ^And I'm so glad you're here to share it with me.^

So with this as background, here's what I heard Ben saying:

Scene 1 - "I told two women this week that I love them."
Scene 2 - ^Honestly^ <> "I do love you."
Scene 3 - ^This is really hard for me because^ <> "I've known I'm in love with you for a while, as well."

The word "Honestly" was said by Ben but somewhere / sometime other than when he said "I do love you". Same with the words "This is really hard for me because" - Ben said them but not at the same time or place as he said "I've known I'm in love with you for a while, as well".

Scene 4 - "I have to say goodbye to a woman that doesn't deserve it." <> ^Saying goodbye to her doesn't feel right,^ <> ^And this is the biggest mistake I've made.^ <> ^I want to keep her in my life.^ <> ^I don't want to say goodbye,^ <> "'cause that's how much I love her." <> ^I'm about to get on one knee and ask a woman to marry me.^ <> "Unfortunately, I just love somebody else...More"

This scene with Ben is IMO one huge misdirect - perhaps one of the biggest in the entire preview and (for me at least) warranted all the time I spent doing this. IMO Ben is talking about his F2 in some fragments and his F1 in others. I could rearrange those same fragments and give a very different sense of the scene - maybe something like this:

About F2
"I have to say goodbye to a woman that doesn't deserve it." <> ^Saying goodbye to her doesn't feel right,^ <>  "Unfortunately, I just love somebody else...More"

About F1
^I'm about to get on one knee and ask a woman to marry me.^ <> ^I don't want to say goodbye,^ <> ^I want to keep her in my life.^ <> "'cause that's how much I love her."

Scene 5 - ^any other time I couldn't^ "imagine saying goodbye to you." <> ^But I know that I'm always gonna miss you.^ <> ^And now I'm gonna ask a woman To love me for the rest of her life.^ "'cause [ laughing ] I'm ready. Really ready." [phone call] ^Hello?^

This could be another misdirect. For example - the words we see Ben say - "imagine saying goodbye to you." could have been said to F1 - ^I could never^ "imagine saying goodbye to you." and they just edited out the first part. I do believe that he said ^But I know that I'm always gonna miss you.^ to F2 but we don't know when or where they were said. At an FRC? Before the FRC? Dunno. I do believe that:

^And now I'm gonna ask a woman To love me for the rest of her life.^ "'cause [ laughing ] I'm ready. Really ready." [phone call] ^Hello?^

was about F1 and his anticipation of the proposal he was about to make.

So - that's all for now from Lake Wobegon.


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