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Post by grace8136 on Fri 11 Mar - 18:01

@Jeepers wrote:11 seems wayyyyyyy toooo early

If the bridge goes towards the west later, southwest earlier.. I think. :crazed

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Post by Jeepers on Fri 11 Mar - 18:03

Ooo he is a PITA!!
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Post by grace8136 on Fri 11 Mar - 18:04

@Jeepers wrote:Ooo he is a PITA!!

Sorry, what does that mean?

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Post by Jeepers on Fri 11 Mar - 18:07

Pain in the a&& LOL
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Post by meauxwalk on Fri 11 Mar - 18:09

@Jeepers wrote:11 seems wayyyyyyy toooo early

Sunset in around the equator is 6ish year round and it happens fast. Given that they need to do the F2 rejection, any retakes, ITM, and then give Ben time to melt down and recover before the F1 arrives, I'd believe that they'd have to have F2 come very early. 11am seems reasonable for their time link if a sunset F1 proposals their money shot.

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Post by bronco18 on Fri 11 Mar - 18:18

@grace8136 wrote:
@bronco18 wrote:So to expound on the lighting/location, I had done this analysis awhile ago when determining angles of the sun. Sorry if it's hard to view /sloppy, but this is the waterfall where the FRC is. The N with the arrow is which way North is facing. The helicopters have been arriving to the west (the right of the waterfall in this picture), and in the sc of Ben's gleaming smile he seems to be looking East.

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Just thought this might help some of us see the big picture/overall view.

:claphands Thank you!! So do you think that JoJo is walking towards the west in this SC? I'm not exactly sure which cove this is in. Did you guesstimate a time? If southwest do you think it could be as early as 11 am based on the sliver of light under the bridge?
http://www.sunearthtools.com/dp/tools/pos_sun.php


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Here's a pic of the bridge that IMO Jojo is walking across in that sc. Given the image is not flipped, which I don't think it is, she would be walking west.


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I looked up the meridian of the sun for November in Jamaica, and it is about 12:00 pm. Based on the angle of the sun in the sc of Jojo, the sun appears to be coming just a little bit more from the west rather than directly above (meridian), so, I think that the time Jojo arrives is closer to 1:00pm than it is 11:00 am. This would still allow plenty of time for the ITMs/getting ready for proposal and whatnot.


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Post by Jeepers on Fri 11 Mar - 18:20

Makes more realistic sense
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Post by bronco18 on Fri 11 Mar - 18:21

Here is a link to November 2015 sun angles in Montego Bay, which is the closest I could get to Ocho Rios:

http://www.timeanddate.com/sun/jamaica/montego-bay?month=11&year=2015
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Post by grace8136 on Fri 11 Mar - 20:04

@bronco18 wrote:

*snipped*
I looked up the meridian of the sun for November in Jamaica, and it is about 12:00 pm. Based on the angle of the sun in the sc of Jojo, the sun appears to be coming just a little bit more from the west rather than directly above (meridian), so, I think that the time Jojo arrives is closer to 1:00pm than it is 11:00 am. This would still allow plenty of time for the ITMs/getting ready for proposal and whatnot.

Thanks Bronco. IA with you after reading this. The direction of the bridge was confusing me to no end. hmmm

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Post by bronco18 on Fri 11 Mar - 20:28

Here's an overview of FRC location, North facing down. Red circle is FRC location, yellow circle is the bridges the girls are walking across, blue circle is reject limo location. There are open fields on each side of the stream, so it's possible that the helicopter landed on the left side (east). However, the helicopters that have landed/taken off from this location (Jojo's FD) were in the field to the right (west). Since there's no way to get over to the east side w/o taking the bridges, the helicopters must have landed on the east field.


source: google earth, my edits

I think they landed on the left/east side because if they would have landed on the right/west there's a good chance that the reject limo would be in sight, which would be a dead give away that that lady is F2 (and it's also a really long walk the other way). JMO
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Post by Sprite on Sat 12 Mar - 3:32

@meauxwalk wrote:
@Jeepers wrote:11 seems wayyyyyyy toooo early

Sunset in around the equator is 6ish year round and it happens fast. Given that they need to do the F2 rejection, any retakes, ITM, and then give Ben time to melt down and recover before the F1 arrives, I'd believe that they'd have to have F2 come very early. 11am seems reasonable for their time link if a sunset F1 proposals their money shot.  

Very true. I was in Jamaica a few years back and I would get up at 6am to go sit by the pool and tan till 9am so that I wouldn't fry. It was dark by 6pm. Plus sometimes you have quick showers. They usually don't last very long, but may have also been a factor in the time difference between F1 and F2.
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Post by Guest on Sat 12 Mar - 3:34

They said it was also very hot like 90 degrees on that day. Wow!

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