The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - F1-F4 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Speculate/sleuth who the F4 will be. Thanks cali for starting us off!

california90 wrote:Too early to predict F4? Anyone want to take a guess?

Ash2214 wrote:

california90 wrote:Too early to predict F4? Anyone want to take a guess?

Crazy to think hometowns are the next stop for them! I think Jordan, Luke and Robby are a lock. I think the other guy will either be the guy she had her first 1-on-1 with or the guy in the picture that we haven't gotten yet (gray/blueish tshirt, black and white sneakers).

bluwavz wrote:My guesses are Jordan, Luke, Robby and the guy who got the first 1-on-1.

Seems no surprise Robby and Jordan. And it won't be a surprise if Luke is the 4th guy. He was my guess for the next Bachelor.

Looks like they are filming in St. Augustine, FL today.

Based on spoilers, we know that Chase, Robby and Jordan made it to the F4. It has always been my thought that one of the known Texas guys in the F8 pic, Luke or James, will make it to F4, at the very least. Because of the posted pics and videos, my choice had been Luke, but I may have changed my mind and here is why:

I do not have any evidence to prove that Luke is out, but I think that he is and that James is the missing F4 guy. I have spent time sm stalking (Hi, my name is julychild and I'm a stalker) these guys and there is a similarity between Robby and Jordan, and on the other side, James and Chase. James is the missing F4 guy, imo.

Don't know what mystery first 1-on-1 guy or tattoo arms guy do for a living, but so far she has eliminated the career Dj's, musicians, trainers, clowns and money-doublers etc. She may like Luke but he is numbered in this group. James and Chase are like her Bff's husband (Bradleigh) and fiancee (Kathy), aka, regular steady, dependable, Jesus loving, nice guys (Husband material, imo). Not to say that Robby and Jordan aren't.

Watch out, I think the next HTD will be in Katy, Tx on Saturday.

I think the last HTD will be about future bachelor material. At this point I think they know who JoJo will chose and they can adjust the F4. I think that may have been the leaving Becca at F5 with Ben. TPTB probably wanted Caila for possible bachelorette, so Becca who they no longer wanted became F5. Chosing Amanda for that group date rose necessitated a Caila/Becca choice. Lauren was obviously top 4 and JoJo was probably in their minds for lead too.

julychild wrote:Based on spoilers, we know that Chase, Robby and Jordan made it to the F4. It has always been my thought that one of the known Texas guys in the F8 pic, Luke or James, will make it to F4, at the very least. Because of the posted pics and videos, my choice had been Luke, but I may have changed my mind and here is why:

I do not have any evidence to prove that Luke is out, but I think that he is and that James is the missing F4 guy. I have spent time sm stalking (Hi, my name is julychild and I'm a stalker) these guys and there is a similarity between Robby and Jordan, and on the other side, James and Chase. James is the missing F4 guy, imo.

Don't know what mystery first 1-on-1 guy or tattoo arms guy do for a living, but so far she has eliminated the career Dj's musicians, trainers, clowns and money-doublers etc. She may like Luke but he is numbered in this group. James and Chase are like her Bff's husband (Bradleigh) and fiancee (Kathy), aka, regular steady, dependable, Jesus loving, nice guys (Husband material, imo). Not to say that Robby and Jordan aren't.

Watch out, I think the next HTD will be in Katy, Tx on Saturday.

I follow your logic but it all depends on Jo Jo's actual intentions. If she is just there for fame & not a husband it won't matter who she picks. If she truly wants a husband from this it will depend on the guy's whole package including lifestyle and how she sees herself fitting in with him and his family.

I have to believe that unless Jordan is the next Bachelor....that whomever is the 4th HTD recipient has to be a possible option for the next Bachelor too.  Hard to know with so little info about Tat's and 1st 1 on 1 Guy but between James and Luke.....I see Luke as more of a likely Bachelor contender.

JMO

julychild wrote:Based on spoilers, we know that Chase, Robby and Jordan made it to the F4. It has always been my thought that one of the known Texas guys in the F8 pic, Luke or James, will make it to F4, at the very least. Because of the posted pics and videos, my choice had been Luke, but I may have changed my mind and here is why:

I do not have any evidence to prove that Luke is out, but I think that he is and that James is the missing F4 guy. I have spent time sm stalking (Hi, my name is julychild and I'm a stalker) these guys and there is a similarity between Robby and Jordan, and on the other side, James and Chase. James is the missing F4 guy, imo.

Don't know what mystery first 1-on-1 guy or tattoo arms guy do for a living, but so far she has eliminated the career Dj's, musicians, trainers, clowns and money-doublers etc. She may like Luke but he is numbered in this group. James and Chase are like her Bff's husband (Bradleigh) and fiancee (Kathy), aka, regular steady, dependable, Jesus loving, nice guys (Husband material, imo). Not to say that Robby and Jordan aren't.

Watch out, I think the next HTD will be in Katy, Tx on Saturday.

I see James as a darkhorse, if such thing exists anymore .

Here's caps on Lukes's Twitter.  I am not talking about the background but the numbers that were changed on it. The first one was taken on 4/17 second 4/20. RC happened on the night of the 17th.

Luvstruck wrote:

julychild wrote:Based on spoilers, we know that Chase, Robby and Jordan made it to the F4. It has always been my thought that one of the known Texas guys in the F8 pic, Luke or James, will make it to F4, at the very least. Because of the posted pics and videos, my choice had been Luke, but I may have changed my mind and here is why:

I do not have any evidence to prove that Luke is out, but I think that he is and that James is the missing F4 guy. I have spent time sm stalking (Hi, my name is julychild and I'm a stalker) these guys and there is a similarity between Robby and Jordan, and on the other side, James and Chase. James is the missing F4 guy, imo.

Don't know what mystery first 1-on-1 guy or tattoo arms guy do for a living, but so far she has eliminated the career Dj's musicians, trainers, clowns and money-doublers etc. She may like Luke but he is numbered in this group. James and Chase are like her Bff's husband (Bradleigh) and fiancee (Kathy), aka, regular steady, dependable, Jesus loving, nice guys (Husband material, imo). Not to say that Robby and Jordan aren't.

Watch out, I think the next HTD will be in Katy, Tx on Saturday.

I follow your logic but it all depends on Jo Jo's actual intentions. If she is just there for fame & not a husband it won't matter who she picks. If she truly wants a husband from this it will depend on  the guy's whole package including lifestyle and how she sees herself fitting in with him and his family.

As far as I'm concerned, nobody goes on this show with the PRIMARY motive of finding a wife/husband. Based on this, if we look at the ragtag group she had to work with this season, and from the little we know, this a good F4 selection.

Jordan as F4 was forgone conclusion. Right now, we don't know how Robby explained the Hope situation, but aside from that, I've seen enough to say that he isn't half bad as a person. Chase' sister described him as "entertaining, adventurous and amusing." James was raised with strong Christian values (doesn't automatically make him a great human, I know!), whether he still holds on to those values remains to be seen. Not even talking about Luke or anyone else, because until proven incorrect, I'm somewhat convinced these are the F4...Maybe I do know

Seabear wrote:I have to believe that unless Jordan is the next Bachelor....that whomever is the 4th HTD recipient has to be a possible option for the next Bachelor too.  Hard to know with so little info about Tat's and 1st 1 on 1 Guy but between James and Luke.....I see Luke as more of a likely Bachelor contender.

JMO

I see Jordan as the next Bachelor. He'll make some money this year playing that role, and his broadcasting career can start next year.

julychild wrote:

Seabear wrote:I have to believe that unless Jordan is the next Bachelor....that whomever is the 4th HTD recipient has to be a possible option for the next Bachelor too.  Hard to know with so little info about Tat's and 1st 1 on 1 Guy but between James and Luke.....I see Luke as more of a likely Bachelor contender.

JMO

I see Jordan as the next Bachelor. He'll make some money this year playing that role, and his broadcasting career can start next year.

Oh noes. I started believing for a second Jordan would not be the next lead. Silly me.
I try to keep an open mind before a season airs, but I'm bummed. Luke seemed like the best candidate out of the guys left.

I envision Jordan having a swarm of SM support similar to Jojo, so that is gonna suck.. cause it'll overlook a candidate I'd rather watch.

Already panicking