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Re: Lee Elliott - Guy #3 in 1st Promo Video - The Notebook Date guy - Bachelorette Australia - Season 2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
I have a favor to ask for anyone that is able to record or video Lee's "Get to know Lee" video on the tenplay site as I am unable to watch it
it would be so appreciated and perhaps give more insight into Lee. TIAMechanical plumber Lee wants to find his soulmate [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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AllAboutLove wrote:I have a favor to ask for anyone that is able to record or video Lee's "Get to know Lee" video on the tenplay site as I am unable to watch itit would be so appreciated and perhaps give more insight into Lee. TIAMechanical plumber Lee wants to find his soulmate [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Sadly I don't have the technical whatnot to record the clip but here is a transcript of the dialogue with screenshots.
Strictly for research purposes, of course
Lee: “I’m Lee, I’m 35 years old, and I’m a mechanical plumber from Melbourne.
I’m not your day-to-day residential plumber; I actually work on big commercial sites.
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I always want the best for myself, and everyone around me.
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I’m slowly but surely running out of single friends.
Always the groomsman; never the groom!”
[Laughs]
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Friend: “How are we going to divvy up these rice paper rolls?”
Lee: “Alright mate.”
[All laugh]
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“But with my friends, they’ve all found their best mate, and that’s what I want.
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I want to find my soulmate. I want someone to share the rest of my life with.
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And I want to find someone who not only loves me for me at my best, but someone that will stick by me through thick and thin.
[That] sounds like my vows!”
[Laughs]
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Source: Tenplay
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It definitely seems like Lee has a theme of finding his soul mate... ties into what he said about Georgia that she could be his soulmate and like they've known each other forever and she has a cheat sheet on him.
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AllAboutLove wrote:It definitely seems like Lee has a theme of finding his soul mate... ties into what he said about Georgia that she could be his soulmate and like they've known each other forever and she has a cheat sheet on him.
Yeah, I tend to agree. Watching that back, Lee was definitely portrayed as F1 material from day 1. I do wonder whether maybe Matty has been a charismatic and oh so very attractive distraction from what otherwise would have looked like an overly obvious match between G & L. Also, I note there is no 'Meet Matty' video. Significant? I'd say so!
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I love that Lee had his friends with their significant others together in his GTK video. Poor Lee by himself looking for his soul mate. I hope his soul mate is Georgia Love
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Pardon the elephanty post.. I am breaking down edit and media thingy y’all ...and sadly it cant be divided into separated posts since its interlinked with one another..so pls bare with me..
Lee as F1 - some edit and media nuggets so far.. My prediction is Lee the F1 based on what i have gathered. Presented here are the key findings.(FWIW). .Basically i tried to find the “scattered puzzle pieces”...and put the 1+1 of pieces that seem to fit or go togeher. The matched pieces are written in capital and in parenthesis. All JMHO.
For easy reference:
- Episode 1 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
- VOs in the Preview [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Key Findings:
1. Key from GL ‘s INTRO (of Episode 1..after meeting with her family)
- GL in PI on 06:58 "I believe in the one. But I believe it takes a while to find that one. And everybody finds him differently"
- GL in PI 07:15: "If someone could make me laugh...say really bad puns and really bad dad jokes..and then pulled out the guitar and sing a song to me..i reckon i found the guy."
- VOs and PIs usually taken after the fact to enhance the storyline/fulfill the gap/foretelling of what is to come. IMHO VOs and PIs are the ‘backbone’ of the editing work.
- My interpretation of "it takes a while" is tied into the A rocky road to romance implied in the Preview. It also lines up well with her media interview about first impressions (more of this will explained in Point No. 8, Courtney vs Lee)
- As for the line "say really bad puns and really bad dad jokes" shown Lee on his entrance and their banter on 1st SD (point no 2 and 3 as follows
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My SC from Episode 1
2. Key from Lee’s Entrance: Lee said to GL : "i am mad for a pun and dad jokes”.
- Imo... can’t it be more obvious?
- Matched with point 1 of (...say really bad puns and really bad dad jokes..)
***(1+2 = Lead intro and *(H)F1 entrance linkage )... Note: *H(F1) refers to Hypothetical F1 since its still need to be proven/remains to be seen.
3. Key from 1st Single Date : We are shown their banter of pun and dad jokes.
***( 1+3 = Lead intro and *(H)F1 SD linkage)
4. Key from Lee’s Bio: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
- Do you believe in “the one”? "Most certainly. She’s currently at large but I have every intention of finding the elusive “one.”
- out of GL’s remaining men, only the one and only Lee got “ do you believe in the one “ question in Bio
- this is matched with aforementioned Point No.1 (GL intro in Ep 1 at 06:58.. "I believe in the one" (GL in PI)
- IMO tbh This is uncanny... .this is not the first time on the show that the Bio serves somewhat as part of /complemetary for the Storyline. I have found several cases in the past US series as well.(likewise, with the ongoing Ette CA 1 ). But its really rare that I get to see the Bio’s“ nugget” as clear as this one (pun intended ) I might think i hit the jackpot... thank you TPTB!!
***(1 + 3 = Lead intro and *(H)F1 bio linkage)
5. Key from Preview: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
-VOs of Lee and GL:
Lee = I want someone to share the rest of my life with
GL = I can’t wait for this next chapter to begin and meet my forever person
- IMO there is specific reason on why Lee and his VO was shown last...right before GL* and what they said hold the same meaning.
- While the other 2 guys previously shown obviously want different things: Cameron wants fairy tale and Matty wants someone to sweep him off his feet
- Lee shown on the last scene before GL to me translated to as somewhat foreshadowing that he was the last man standing IMO (reiterated on point no.8)
***(Storyline through Beginning matched: G and L want the same thing)[/b]
- Additional observation using comparison with past seasons of the US: Lee is relatively hidden- only far away shot on the NB date (relatively typical F1. Not shown talking or being intimate with up-close shot. (ala typical F2 and/or F3/next lead).
6. Key from Love letter Date (Episode 8) : Link to Episode 8 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
- This is interesting since we have Courtney and Lee in 1 GD.
- The key is to pay attention to which letter got GL’s “attention” in term of ITM and VOs.
- Note that Courtney, Jake and Cam letters didn't get her VOs at all. Only Lee’s letter got the following on 28:33 mark: GL ITM: "this guy was saying I've had a lot of things that I love in my life" continued by GL's VOs "but its just not fulfilled and I want to find someone to fill it. That's why I'm here...for the exact same reason"
- Imo, VOs used to enhance the storyline..and likely taken after filming
- These nuggets Cue-ing my point of No 5 above... In the beginning of her ‘journey’ they both have alluded want to find the same thing: someone to spend the rest of their life with...and on episode 8, this point being reinforced by Lee’s Love Letter.
- Interesting to note also that aside from the shot of Cameron reading his letter, camera was focusing Over G and Lee’s face back and forth the whole time while Lee’s letter being read. Compare that to the other 3 letters..where camera was wondering around to the other guy(s) (aside from the letter composer and reader)...implying more “investment” on both ends?
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My SC from Episode 8
***( 5+ 6 = Storyline - Move Further/Reiterate)
7. Obstacles : There are 2 parallels of their obstacles in the G-Lee’s Love Story being told, IMO:
- On GL’s end... Courtney which means G-Lee is actually have early connection but overshadowed by her fondness of Courtney who will likely break her heart (cue the Preview: Paved with Heartbreak). Once Courtney gone....GL will have some ‘clarity’ and invest more in Lee (will be explored more on point No.8)
-On Lee’s end... having difficulties to deal with the reality of the situation (competing with the other guys..limited time with the lead,etc) and this alluded since early episodes as well with his Pis and Vos through out all episodes.
- Will get to see more of Lee’s obstacles on the coming episode 9 as the preview shown (expecting to see GL’s invested more in Lee after Court gone, IMO)
8. Courtney and Lee’s Intertwined Edit
- This is the most amusing nugget to me!... Im guessing this is due to the fact that GL had sold on Courtney from the very beginning right up until he leaves. Tbh out of remaining GL’s men I only see the F1 edit applied to Courtney and Lee IMO.
- (more on Courtney edit and my speculation of him leaving at F4RC provided here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] )
- The edit play alluding Lee ”replacing” Courtney were found in the preview as well as on the episodes as per edit tid bits suggests
1) In Love Letter date: Lee was the one reading Court’s letter.He replaced Courtney, so to speak
2) On episode 8, at CP: on 41:27 mark: Courtney’s VO: we all have very different connection with Georgia... was heard over this cap (G&lee after the “Cocktail” alone time)
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(my SC from Episode 8)
- My interpretation: Courtney can see G-Lee connection which different than his connection with GL. > i tend to think this is to foreshadowing whats to come when he is already gone.
3) Check out the preview (my SC)
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- This cap was shown over Lee’s VO : Your Eyes Are Ridiculous ... **
- THIS. IS GOLD. Can’t the editors be more tricky? Imo, another example of Lee ‘replacing’ Courtney
- ** ah-mazingly..and surprisingly...similar line is mentioned in one of Lee’s interview: “And she’s obviously stunning, she has the most incredible eyes I’ve ever seen.“
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***( =Preview and Media/(H)F1 Interview Linkage )
Another note-worthy point : Lee said Courtney and Cam are his main concern on the show .So..referring to point 7.1-3) above, this is also
***(= (H)F1 Edit and (H)F1 Interview Linkage)
TY for letting me share...hope y’ll enjoy my findings as much as i do and im hopeful this piece of puzzle of mine can somehow contribute to the final puzzle’s solving.
Lee as F1 - some edit and media nuggets so far.. My prediction is Lee the F1 based on what i have gathered. Presented here are the key findings.(FWIW). .Basically i tried to find the “scattered puzzle pieces”...and put the 1+1 of pieces that seem to fit or go togeher. The matched pieces are written in capital and in parenthesis. All JMHO.
For easy reference:
- Episode 1 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
- VOs in the Preview [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
Key Findings:
1. Key from GL ‘s INTRO (of Episode 1..after meeting with her family)
- GL in PI on 06:58 "I believe in the one. But I believe it takes a while to find that one. And everybody finds him differently"
- GL in PI 07:15: "If someone could make me laugh...say really bad puns and really bad dad jokes..and then pulled out the guitar and sing a song to me..i reckon i found the guy."
- VOs and PIs usually taken after the fact to enhance the storyline/fulfill the gap/foretelling of what is to come. IMHO VOs and PIs are the ‘backbone’ of the editing work.
- My interpretation of "it takes a while" is tied into the A rocky road to romance implied in the Preview. It also lines up well with her media interview about first impressions (more of this will explained in Point No. 8, Courtney vs Lee)
- As for the line "say really bad puns and really bad dad jokes" shown Lee on his entrance and their banter on 1st SD (point no 2 and 3 as follows
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My SC from Episode 1
2. Key from Lee’s Entrance: Lee said to GL : "i am mad for a pun and dad jokes”.
- Imo... can’t it be more obvious?
- Matched with point 1 of (...say really bad puns and really bad dad jokes..)
***(1+2 = Lead intro and *(H)F1 entrance linkage )... Note: *H(F1) refers to Hypothetical F1 since its still need to be proven/remains to be seen.
3. Key from 1st Single Date : We are shown their banter of pun and dad jokes.
***( 1+3 = Lead intro and *(H)F1 SD linkage)
4. Key from Lee’s Bio: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
- Do you believe in “the one”? "Most certainly. She’s currently at large but I have every intention of finding the elusive “one.”
- out of GL’s remaining men, only the one and only Lee got “ do you believe in the one “ question in Bio
- this is matched with aforementioned Point No.1 (GL intro in Ep 1 at 06:58.. "I believe in the one" (GL in PI)
- IMO tbh This is uncanny... .this is not the first time on the show that the Bio serves somewhat as part of /complemetary for the Storyline. I have found several cases in the past US series as well.(likewise, with the ongoing Ette CA 1 ). But its really rare that I get to see the Bio’s“ nugget” as clear as this one (pun intended ) I might think i hit the jackpot... thank you TPTB!!
***(1 + 3 = Lead intro and *(H)F1 bio linkage)
5. Key from Preview: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
-VOs of Lee and GL:
Lee = I want someone to share the rest of my life with
GL = I can’t wait for this next chapter to begin and meet my forever person
- IMO there is specific reason on why Lee and his VO was shown last...right before GL* and what they said hold the same meaning.
- While the other 2 guys previously shown obviously want different things: Cameron wants fairy tale and Matty wants someone to sweep him off his feet
- Lee shown on the last scene before GL to me translated to as somewhat foreshadowing that he was the last man standing IMO (reiterated on point no.8)
***(Storyline through Beginning matched: G and L want the same thing)[/b]
- Additional observation using comparison with past seasons of the US: Lee is relatively hidden- only far away shot on the NB date (relatively typical F1. Not shown talking or being intimate with up-close shot. (ala typical F2 and/or F3/next lead).
6. Key from Love letter Date (Episode 8) : Link to Episode 8 [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
- This is interesting since we have Courtney and Lee in 1 GD.
- The key is to pay attention to which letter got GL’s “attention” in term of ITM and VOs.
- Note that Courtney, Jake and Cam letters didn't get her VOs at all. Only Lee’s letter got the following on 28:33 mark: GL ITM: "this guy was saying I've had a lot of things that I love in my life" continued by GL's VOs "but its just not fulfilled and I want to find someone to fill it. That's why I'm here...for the exact same reason"
- Imo, VOs used to enhance the storyline..and likely taken after filming
- These nuggets Cue-ing my point of No 5 above... In the beginning of her ‘journey’ they both have alluded want to find the same thing: someone to spend the rest of their life with...and on episode 8, this point being reinforced by Lee’s Love Letter.
- Interesting to note also that aside from the shot of Cameron reading his letter, camera was focusing Over G and Lee’s face back and forth the whole time while Lee’s letter being read. Compare that to the other 3 letters..where camera was wondering around to the other guy(s) (aside from the letter composer and reader)...implying more “investment” on both ends?
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My SC from Episode 8
***( 5+ 6 = Storyline - Move Further/Reiterate)
7. Obstacles : There are 2 parallels of their obstacles in the G-Lee’s Love Story being told, IMO:
- On GL’s end... Courtney which means G-Lee is actually have early connection but overshadowed by her fondness of Courtney who will likely break her heart (cue the Preview: Paved with Heartbreak). Once Courtney gone....GL will have some ‘clarity’ and invest more in Lee (will be explored more on point No.8)
-On Lee’s end... having difficulties to deal with the reality of the situation (competing with the other guys..limited time with the lead,etc) and this alluded since early episodes as well with his Pis and Vos through out all episodes.
- Will get to see more of Lee’s obstacles on the coming episode 9 as the preview shown (expecting to see GL’s invested more in Lee after Court gone, IMO)
8. Courtney and Lee’s Intertwined Edit
- This is the most amusing nugget to me!... Im guessing this is due to the fact that GL had sold on Courtney from the very beginning right up until he leaves. Tbh out of remaining GL’s men I only see the F1 edit applied to Courtney and Lee IMO.
- (more on Courtney edit and my speculation of him leaving at F4RC provided here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] )
- The edit play alluding Lee ”replacing” Courtney were found in the preview as well as on the episodes as per edit tid bits suggests
1) In Love Letter date: Lee was the one reading Court’s letter.He replaced Courtney, so to speak
2) On episode 8, at CP: on 41:27 mark: Courtney’s VO: we all have very different connection with Georgia... was heard over this cap (G&lee after the “Cocktail” alone time)
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
(my SC from Episode 8)
- My interpretation: Courtney can see G-Lee connection which different than his connection with GL. > i tend to think this is to foreshadowing whats to come when he is already gone.
3) Check out the preview (my SC)
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
- This cap was shown over Lee’s VO : Your Eyes Are Ridiculous ... **
- THIS. IS GOLD. Can’t the editors be more tricky? Imo, another example of Lee ‘replacing’ Courtney
- ** ah-mazingly..and surprisingly...similar line is mentioned in one of Lee’s interview: “And she’s obviously stunning, she has the most incredible eyes I’ve ever seen.“
(Source: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
***( =Preview and Media/(H)F1 Interview Linkage )
Another note-worthy point : Lee said Courtney and Cam are his main concern on the show .So..referring to point 7.1-3) above, this is also
***(= (H)F1 Edit and (H)F1 Interview Linkage)
- my thoughts here:
Thats all I have in my stash for now. Look forward to more nuggets on the coming epis.
FTR I don't have a horse in the race. As long as the F1 is not Courtney I'm good . (just bc... Its cringe-worthy to watch GL being all giddy while that guy has a poker face all along..).
Btw Is just me..or I get a sense with all this stuff being correlated, TPTB is giving us the love story this time around?. From the look of my Glee puzzle so far...TPTB seem to put a well-thought story on main episodes, SM as well as in media interviews by the lead and the (supposed) F1 (If TPTB is to believed have a good intention to redeem themselves after Richie season’s debacles ).
On a related note, i wonder if what GL means by the backlash probably refers to the possibility of Lee (or whoever her F1 is) getting labelled as ‘ the fall back guy?’ - due to Court leaving- and that she was not as invested as him?. I guess this sort of happened to Chris and Des on her season..so not far fetched to picture that could likely happen. IMO.
Side observation : I perceived Matty as playing a role as the ‘narrator’/voice of the reason of this season. The most interesting is his sit down with the guys at Episode 8 CP and chat about the Love Letter GD. In the end of the segment he said well..that's maybe the words she wanted to hear from Courtney (he is always spot on!). .....Another example is in his sit-down with Jake and Clancy where he said something along the line of Courtney actually regard GL as a ‘mate’ . Therefore, I get a sense they are gunning Matty as the next lead. So...IMO they apparently giving us a stand up guy edit for Lee (as the F1), a Love Story and a fan fav (Matty) as the next lead. Not much to complain, huh?
Onto more personal note, If Lee turns out to be F1, I have to admit this is by far the most complex edit puzzle I had to solve in any franchise. They gave Courtney the F1 edit right from the start..up to mid season. If not denied by the SCs/BTS sleuthing i would think he is the F1..and his ‘red flags’ could be perceived as obstacles . Great job well done everyone!. A Rocky Road to Romance for GL indeed. This also goes to show that edit and SC complement each other and should be taken in the context of 1 big final puzzle IMO.
TY for letting me share...hope y’ll enjoy my findings as much as i do and im hopeful this piece of puzzle of mine can somehow contribute to the final puzzle’s solving.
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I hope that Lee is F1, but if he isn't then I hope he is the next lead
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I'm so excited!!!
Notebook date and Dirty Dancing date and romance and vulnerability too? Yes please
Notebook date and Dirty Dancing date and romance and vulnerability too? Yes please
PREVIEW: Lee only has one more chance to spend some alone time with Georgia before Hometown dates. 7.30 Tonight. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] by @[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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AllAboutLove wrote:I'm so excited!!!
Notebook date and Dirty Dancing date and romance and vulnerability too? Yes pleasePREVIEW: Lee only has one more chance to spend some alone time with Georgia before Hometown dates. 7.30 Tonight. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] by @[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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I mean, I seriously, seriously would kill to have Lee lift me up into the air. Not even gonna lie!
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AllAboutLove wrote: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I hope that Lee is F1, but if he isn't then I hope he is the next lead
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i personally think the gig will be offered to Matty since IMHO Lee is off the market . IMHO learning from Richie season , they seem to give us all we want this season: a fan fav F1, a good Love Story and another fan fav,charming, handsome as hell next lead.
Not much to complain, eh?
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Me too! I'm so excited as well - this is that date I have been looking forward to since the start of the season. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my live feed works better tonight than it did last episode.
Lee seems like such a genuine guy - I haven't seen his SM but on the show he has conducted himself so well - and he's not bad to look at either!
Lee seems like such a genuine guy - I haven't seen his SM but on the show he has conducted himself so well - and he's not bad to look at either!
A true friend is one who thinks you are a good egg even if you are half-cracked!
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