Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:

quietpal wrote:

Lennoxcolinrolland wrote:If I were him, I'd end my edit on a positive note (on BIP), because tptb are for sure gonna make him look like the sleaziest azz on his season IMO. Oh well. Take chances and all that!

Maybe or maybe not. Even if that happens, he'll come out of this ok. He's got enough family and friends supporting him to help him through this tiring process when it's all over. Imo

I agree. But I'm sure it felt real niceeeee that everyone loved him on BIP. And then to go back to hate, it's gonna suck IMO.

Maybe he'll come out hated, but maybe not. None of us are Nostradamus, and this thing hasn't even started filming yet. A lot of that depends on luck - if you find someone that's a legit match. Maybe Nick will, and if that's the case, he'll be fine in the edit. He understands the show better than any lead prior, he's had more experience.  He should know how the game is played and stay in line. Also, in theory, he should be a good Bachelor ambassador and host  to all the newbie girls and help them feel comfortable on camera. I think that may also help his edit.

And if the producers turn him into a Juan Pablo style villian, well, Nick will roll with it and deal. The man was humiliated and dumped at the alter twice, back to back. He bounces back.

sosleepy wrote:Kaitlyn's season was a TOTAL snoozer until Nick showed up. Even then, still a snoozer, but he breathed the little life into that season that it had. Without him, Shawn had the thing on TOTAL lockdown, no one else compared. And I'm sorry, the whole TOG vs. Shawn thing? Nick was TRYING to diffuse the situation the entire time. SHAWN is the one who ramped that one up, made it a huge freaking deal and turned it into what it became, not Nick.

Not to me. I don't think we needed Nick that season at all. There were some great guys on Kaitlyn's season and the only reason they wanted him there was to cause drama IMO. Nick was no angel when it came to Shawn. I thought both were to blame. The TOG was ridiculous on Shawn's part though.

I think he is a famewhore *but* I'm foolishly hoping he falls for a girl who kind of knocks him down a few pegs back to normal .

If he had sex with 5 bach people and 100 others, they must have all agreed to it.

We know K and A certainly had no issues putting out.

If he indeed had sex with 5, I think Jaclyn could be one of them. They seemed to hang out a lot at one point while he was still living in Chicago plus she seems like the type to be up for some friends with benefits sort of fun. No idea about the 5th.

bleuberry wrote:I think he is a famewhore *but* I'm foolishly hoping he falls for a girl who kind of knocks him down a few pegs back to normal .

Ha. Right there with you. To do this thing 4 times, yeah, you are a famewhore. A lovable famewhore, maybe, but a famewhore none the less. I'd love for him to totally fall for real for some urban dwelling career person, NOT LA. I'm hoping for this chick to screw his head back on straight, and for he and she to retreat into Bachelor retirement. I want him to move for her. There is literally nothing tying him to LA except washed up Bachelor interview circuit and modeling. I want him extricated back to normal with his lady. Minus the IG shilling and couple branding, cause that's a given now-a-days. . But seriously, basically happy IRL, number retired next to Bukowski. And scene.

Linds911 wrote:Can't wait to see how Neil Lane reacts when Nick arrives to pick out his 3rd ring!!

Wouldn't it actually be his 4th. Supposedly he looked at rings in BIP too according to the preview.....

sosleepy wrote:

bleuberry wrote:I think he is a famewhore *but* I'm foolishly hoping he falls for a girl who kind of knocks him down a few pegs back to normal .

Ha. Right there with you. To do this thing 4 times, yeah, you are a famewhore. A lovable famewhore, maybe, but a famewhore none the less. I'd love for him to totally fall for real for some urban dwelling career person, NOT LA. I'm hoping for this chick to screw his head back on straight, and for he and she to retreat into Bachelor retirement. I want him to move for her. There is literally nothing tying him to LA except washed up Bachelor interview circuit and modeling. I want him extricated back to normal with his lady.  Minus the IG shilling and couple branding, cause that's a given now-a-days. . But seriously, basically happy IRL, number retired next to Bukowski. And scene.

IMHO--great post.
I agree so much.
Let him find love and get back to the normal Viall life and clan.
Sociologically, I wonder if there is a bit of adrenaline rush and addictive type linkage or Bukowski gene involved here.
There is little to nothing keeping him in LA except the other Bukowski genealogy. Cut the roots, cut the ties.

Aunties_Love wrote:

Linds911 wrote:Can't wait to see how Neil Lane reacts when Nick arrives to pick out his 3rd ring!!

Wouldn't it actually be his 4th.  Supposedly he looked at rings in BIP too according to the preview.....

Andi dumped him before he met with Neil. He never picked out a ring for her.

Sex.
Most people have it by mutual consent because that's where their make out session led them and for reasons of their own they continue to consummation. I highly doubt every woman he had sex with was a virgin therefore the unknown shes have a list of sexual partners just as he does.
IMO the sexual choices I've made to date have been fine with me so I extend the same view to Nick or anyone else.

To me, sexuality is a part of who we are and whether some have sex purely for pleasure or some only in a committed relationship is entirely up them.

I'm just here to watch a show and hoping for genuine passion and great conversations.  The feigned drama I could do without but I expect it to be there because so many viewers thrive off it.  Hoping for a great season with room for some wonderful women in the mix of silly girls.

Agree with Mia.
Sometimes it is what it is.
Sometimes it's cheetos and some times it's chunky almond butter.

BKay wrote:I've seen numbers on this site before about what leads earn. Kasha or GA will likely remember. i vaguely recall a range of $50,000 to $250,000, depending on how badly they wanted the person. But someone cmiiw.

Nick never asked for the lead and his sister say they were surprise about it all, so I am guessing they are going to pay him abit more. They asked him not him asking them.