Raven Gates - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

^ I don't care that she is selling the shirts..good for her if people buy them, all i am saying is that wait till the show starts.

I think it's more of excitement and enthusiasm than campaigning for the next lead. I am all for taking advantage of 15-minute fame, but I agree with the other poster: wait until the show airs, or al least until the bios are out. Promoting the business now, IMO, is agreeing with RS spoiler.

Yeah, I doubt it's something the final chosen would do.

I'm all for making money off of this show...but at least be original! I've seen these exact same sayings on clothings about a million times before. And, the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is so annoying - nick was making fun of those people when he was on afterbuzz! I'm still surprised she made it to F2 over Rachel, who seems so much more his type to me. IMO.

Well maybe the theory that he let Rachel go at F3 because he already knew he was picking Vanessa and figured being F3 would give Rachel a better shot at the Bachelorette, is true. Raven might have been an easier F2 to let go of.

Rachel and Vanessa are quite similar IMO, they seem mature, fun loving and very low-key on social media.

I just find it impossible to imagine that the F2 was actually heartbroken when they're super excited about the whole thing like a week after being dumped. Not that I want anyone to be heartbroken but I just know that's what they'll try to sell me on the show.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I agree. I have often thought there really is no competition for the F1 in many cases. The F2,3 and 4 are sometimes, IMO, only higher level MOT's.

^^ It looks like Rachel and Raven are probably smart enough to realize they were just high level MOT's, if in fact his choice is as obvious as most seem to think. So their "heartbreak" may not last too long.

The dress shop lady posted twice today
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buffiesalltherageShe's back...filming of The Bachelor is a wrap! Mum's the word! [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


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buffiesalltherageYUP...This is me biting my tongue! [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] @golden_brandon @thebacheloramerica @mbookout

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Can someone please tell her camp the bios are not out and she's not officially a contestant yet? Just a couple of more weeks, be patient!

Seems a bit desperate...