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Post by Admin Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:05 pm

A separate thread for any suggestions.
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Post by albean99 Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:11 pm

I got a request from a member about Andi's non-spoiler forum. Everyone wants clarification on what can and can't be posted. The non-spoiler section last season was more active than the spoiler section during the season. That meant that lots of spoiled members posted there (me too although I was extra careful not to comment on anything that wasn't supported by a SC or edit). 

I asked for comments & suggestions on the thread and got some good ones. I'd like to see SCs for sure. On prev seasons LM/San brought them from the spoiler threads for us. Does anyone here do SCs?


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Post by Kashathediva Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:28 pm

If scs are being used for analysis and not just to post scs, in the past Joker's has sanctioned use from their site. Personally, they have great scs and I perfer using theirs when doing sleuthing/comparisons etc. But they do NOT want other forums to utilize them in a thread whose sole purpose is scs.
Has any one person from this site come forward in recent seasons to post good HD caps?



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Post by noobsleuth Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:59 pm

I wasn't able to stream the show on Hulu last season so I wasn't able to make any SCs from there. I did buy JP's season on itunes so if I do that for Andi's I can make a few if people need them. I don't want to be the only one responsible for SC's though.


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Post by GuardianAngel Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:02 am

I do not do scaps, sorry. If Jokers lets this forum use them, that is wonderful! I will send a PM thanking them. I'm not sure what the difference is between using them for analysis, and just posting for the sake of looking at them?

As far as the non spoiler thread, IMO if I'm non spoiled, to me that means I know nothing. I don't know who the guys are what happens what dates s/caps etc. However, it seems there is a little bit of spoiling going on in that thread?

bean do you want to look after that thread? Since it was very active in the previous season, do you feel comfortable setting what ever rules you see fit? You can then control the posts, and delete what you feel is not appropriate? If it was successful in previous seasons, run it the same way?





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Post by albean99 Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:36 am

GuardianAngel wrote:I do not do scaps, sorry. If Jokers lets this forum use them, that is wonderful! I will send a PM thanking them. I'm not sure what the difference is between using them for analysis, and just posting for the sake of looking at them?

As far as the non spoiler thread, IMO if I'm non spoiled, to me that means I  know nothing. I don't know who the guys are what happens what dates s/caps etc. However, it seems there is a little bit of spoiling going on in that thread?

bean do you want to look after that thread? Since it was very active in the previous season, do you feel comfortable setting what ever rules you see fit? You can then control the posts, and delete what you feel is not appropriate? If it was successful in previous seasons, run it the same way?



Sure, that suits me because I'd like to stay unspoiled if possible myself. I think everyone there is comfortable knowing the bios of the guys, episode descriptions, SCs (Dreamer's very clear on only using them for discussions so think we'd better stick to that), edit, etc. I'll try to look at what we had last season that worked and see if we can improve. Let me know if anyone has suggestions or hears any complaints. 

You may want to assign a couple of people or more to the spoiler side. I really hope it will be more active than JP's season.  I think previous seasons were set up pretty well so perhaps someone could look at that?

LM & San were really good at SCs and embedding videos. We have big shoes to try to fill.  San did say she may be able to do a banner once in a while. Some of the members were good at it also so hopefully we can keep that up. I'm not going to volunteer because even though I have Corel PS all I seem to be able to do is my avatar.  :Nod:


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Post by Bet2Win Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:46 am

IIRC, before RS, we sleuthed using the following:

1.  SC's
2.  Episode descriptions
3.  Bio's once released by ABC.
4.  Social media  ...  although that's trickier now, because a lot of people using social media are spoiled.
5.  Intel  ... from members, hotel people, family member's, etc.
6. The media ... Fridgegate for Brad 2.0 was one fine piece of sleuthing! The media can be tricky too, have to make sure the media isn't quoting RS before posting in the non-spoiled forum.

We also waited with baited breath for  Intel from BlondieGal and others who knew people that attended the WTA for the identity of the F3.

Anything else?
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Post by Bet2Win Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:51 am

GuardianAngel wrote:I do not do scaps, sorry. If Jokers lets this forum use them, that is wonderful! I will send a PM thanking them. I'm not sure what the difference is between using them for analysis, and just posting for the sake of looking at them?

As far as the non spoiler thread, IMO if I'm non spoiled, to me that means I  know nothing. I don't know who the guys are what happens what dates s/caps etc. However, it seems there is a little bit of spoiling going on in that thread?

bean do you want to look after that thread? Since it was very active in the previous season, do you feel comfortable setting what ever rules you see fit? You can then control the posts, and delete what you feel is not appropriate? If it was successful in previous seasons, run it the same way?




Dreamer sanctions use of her sc's for use in an sc discussion thread. She doesn't want her sc's to show up in an sc only, no discussion thread. Hope that clarifies.
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Post by noobsleuth Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:53 am

JM2C, but at this stage in the game the unspoiled people are maybe wondering if they can look to RS for contestant info and pictures instead of waiting until ABC releases them. It's going to make discussion in the unspoiled forums hard when some of them have peeked at Steve's list and others are waiting for the official announcement from ABC.


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Post by Bet2Win Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:57 am

I don't see a problem with using his list for bio's only. As long as no one posts who RS says made any particular cut.

What do you guys think?
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Post by albean99 Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:05 am

I don't mind but we'll need someone who doesn't mind being spoiled to bring them over. I'd like to see a general thread for bachelors and individual ones like the spoiler thread has. 

I'm really busy tomorrow but maybe I can sneak in time to put up a couple of threads including a general one for the Bachelors. I'll have time to do more on Friday.


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Post by Bet2Win Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:10 am

I can help albean!

If there's general consensus to put the individual contestant threads by the non-spoiled members, I can set those up.
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