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Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5

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Post by GuardianAngel on Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:40 pm

Thread 5 starts here.

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@Catdwoman50 wrote:
@cmarci93 wrote:
@ukglasgowkiiss wrote:Sorry for double post, copied image from the screen caps thread, but couldn't see a URL to add in, is this OK @GuardianAngel ?

Big Hair Don't Care, Vanessa looks happy IMO.


http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3887p48-bachelor-21-nick-viall-screen-caps-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

she does look happy, just the conversation they had in the hot tub doesn't look like it went well bc he says he's not traditional.

Vanessa comes from an italian family and I can relate with her.

Hopefully all questions have been answered and she felt special again.

@Litta123 wrote:@happygolucky Congrats on the next chapter of your life! Hope it's all you want/need it to be! bestbud!

Regarding your post above, I would include that I think TPTB added to Vanessa's heaviness, not just Nick and the situation. I feel like their "whisperings" in her ear have been "loud and clear" lately. How else do you explain her giant mood swings from the actual interactions of the date and her ITMs. I believe her questioning of her father regarding the number of "father's blessing" given was producer driven. Maybe I'm wrong, but it all felt too convenient to get that footage. I think "someone" is "encouraging" her to not feel special.

@notarose wrote:What does tradional mean?
Vanessa:
Women keep their birth surname when married as per French Canadian tradition.
Divorce occurs despite Catholic upbringing.
Vanessa is typical of her generation having pursued a variety of careers and has lived outside the community she was raised in.
Vanessa's mom said they need to make each other happy and make decisions together revealing the value of partnership.
Men in Vanessa's family cook - grandpa and brother shown doing so on old IG posts.

Nick:
His oldest sister Jessica and soon Maria marry in their 30s.
Maria officiated at Jessica's wedding - not in a church. None of Sarah's wedding photos were of a church either. Nick's parents are Catholic, he attended a Catholic high school, and Nick does attend service (he posted about it after A's season, Brian posted about Nick, Josh, and he attending a few services while in Italy).
Nick could be perceived as having nontraditional views (as in nonconservative) however these views may be family held: identifies self as a feminist, supports right of gay/lesbian marriage, supports abortion rights.

IMO "traditional" is a vague term. Looking forward to how they will bring clarity for each other on this topic.


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Re: Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5

Post by Maya on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:13 pm

RS post about Bimini fight is up and OMG so much talk about nothing!!!

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Post by Diana on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:17 pm

Seriously all this drama and pettiness over that? It was almost 4 four months ago. These girls needs to get over it.

IMO, Nick was never going to choose anyone but Vanessa.. They can blame her all they want but Nick was clear from the beginning on who he wanted IMO.
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Post by happygolucky on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:19 pm

bestbud! Thank you @Litta123 Praying and I agree some things are way too close to the "script" ... I was considering to not watch the season for how much antipathy I feel towards TPTB. Curiosity was my poison.

@notarose ... now that's a great characterization of what a "traditional" can mean ... and how "not traditional" can both be, Nick and Vanessa, and their families.
It's also one of the reasons I was drawn to Nick, because he hasn't applied to all the rules that BN has accepted as a norm... and to me his POV was normal, natural, too logic, and yet it was "unprecedented" for BN ... It really makes you re-exam the premise and the concept. Values that reflect from its creators. Really a scary house, with "cursed" hat.
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Post by BKay on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:20 pm

I tried to get on RS site, but apparently all bach nation was there already and I couldn't. What does he say?
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Post by bleuberry on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:20 pm

I hate to agree with RS but Vanessa really is getting the short end of the stick out of all the main players. Feel kinda bad for her. JMO.
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Post by Maya on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:21 pm

I feel so sorry for Vanessa, she had to go through so much crap both in the house and post the show.
I honestly don't understand why 31 yo Rachel, now new bachelorette, would still hold a grudge over some petty argument.
The pack is full of jealous and insecure women.
It just blows my mind.

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Post by Sprite on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:24 pm

@Maya wrote:I feel so sorry for Vanessa, she had to go through so much crap both in the house and post the show.
I honestly don't understand why 31 yo Rachel, now new bachelorette, would still hold a grudge over some petty argument.
The pack is full of jealous and insecure women.
It just blows my mind.

Not mine. It seems to happen every season. I think tptb stir the pot to get them p*ssed off at one another to create some drama...particularly when everyone is getting along...too well for them.
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Post by Maya on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:24 pm

@BKay my SC of RS page. Please delete if not allowed

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Post by Maya on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:26 pm

@Sprite I get that but what blows my mind is the fact that Rachel and some of the girls are still holding a grudge. Doesn't seem like a big thing to be upset so much about few months after.

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Post by Diana on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

Am I really suppose to look at Vanessa differently because of that? If anything it shows me how petty this stupid squad is...

My favorite part, According to RS, the girls were on Taylor for keeping to herself and her close friends... When that is exactly what the "squad" does.
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Post by BKay on Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:28 pm

Thank you @Maya! Wow, just usual girl drama, made worse by competing for one guy.

eta: it's obvious that RS heard this from someone in the 'squad.' Wonder who...


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