Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - 2

that JK interview was so fun and there body language was so affectionate and  doting. Her right arm resting along/inside his left thigh (not in a scandalous way ) and he continuously rubbing and massaging her left shoulder area. And I have always wondered what Nick's middle name is, thanks V! Nicholas Joseph Viall, has a great ring to it. Loved the "where did you first make love question?" question at the end and both put Finland but for clarification FS or following the engagement? Did anyone catch as they left the cabin when they were like "let's do it!" and V said "literally!" As for ATFR it is possible any unhappiness could have stemmed from the line of questioning moreso than any frustration within their actual relationship, I mean when the show has spent the whole seaosn on the storyline of it being too challenging with location hurdles and compromising and leaving out alot of the fun, more light hearted moments and then continuously badgers them about it on ATFR I can imagine the frustration of having to answer it over and over again. I'm not saying there isn't any natural, normal discussions and frustrations but considering JK and all their other SM indicates a more positive outlook I have to think it was more the atomosphere than the couple itself that made for a tense interview. On the positive side of all the negative impressions from ATFR is it takes alot of pressure off Nissa as far as expectations. I think sometimes when the pressure is off and everyone figures you will fail, it allows for the couple to be left alone and help them to be able to just naturally focus on their relationship at hand. I remember most thought Des/Chris were DOA (admittedly myself included) and boy they proved me WRONG WRONG WRONG ( and good for them!) Can't wait for more interviews! GMA is still advertising they will be on during a Kimmel commerical so I am guessing a remote interview due to the weather. I wonder if Nissa are actually relieved not to have to travel cross country. It means more time with her family if they don't! I am on such a high still from that perfect, beautiful, amazing, incredible proposal!

It was so apparent Nick has sat in that chair opposite CH on ATFR before. Nick was on guard from the moment he walked on stage. I know Nick loves Elan because their friendship is real. That pretty much sums it up.

Mods, so where is the Nick and Vanessa fan thread? My journey here is complete.

AllAboutLove wrote:

coolangel wrote:Nick with Papa Grimaldi!  


Source: My SC - @vanessagrimaldi30 IG story

Love this

I think this is something Nick had always searched for.  
It would be fair IMO to say that Nick's character has been laid bare on his season of the Bach.  He has at times made peculiar decisions, been somewhat sexual with several women, cried a lot, said confusing things at times... and he proposed to the daughter of this straight shooting man while dating other women.  YET, Pat Grimaldi has obviously not withdrawn his blessing because here they sit as do several of Vanessa's loved ones.  These loved ones have watched every epi (V said this on JK) and have witnessed V, who didn't use SM much prior, be sometimes praised but other times pummelled by fans in her IG/twitter.  They know N&V together means the trolls will continue. Yet here they sit. This pic says to me that their home is his home, that he is welcome as the person he is, that her love for him is their love.
I liked that Vanessa said during ATFR what IMO is not unusual for an F1 to be feeling so soon after the show ended and while still not free of the ridiculous restrictions put on them that keep them apart.  I like (not  CH's tactics) that she has let some of that out, released it.
On the show, so much of their conversation was enhanced by their use of touch.  It was an integral part of how they conveyed their wants, needs, emotion. That has been missing because they have been contractually kept apart.  IMO, I think all kinds of wonderful are in store for them now they will be living together. They can cuddle every night and hug at breakfast. They can kiss and talk and touch everyday because that is what is natural for them. I'm so happy they finally get to live their life

Ugh is it too early to watch the FRC again! It was so perfect and beautiful!

mprssdbyu wrote:It was so apparent Nick has sat in that chair opposite CH on ATFR before. Nick was on guard from the moment he walked on stage. I know Nick loves Elan because  their friendship is real. That pretty much sums it up.

Mods, so where is the Nick and Vanessa fan thread? My journey here is complete.

Spot on post. You summed it up

Nick & Vanessa's Fan thread here

That picture of Nick with V's dad clearly shows a guy who is not only relieved that they are finally public, is getting along famously with her hard nosed father, but also seems pretty darned happy for someone whose relationship is supposed to be in the toilet. Pretty much the opposite of what CH tried to convey on the AFTR.

I was really disappointed at how little time they gave Nick and Vanessa together during the AFTR. This was their time and while I am sure Rachel will be a good Bachelorette, she really did not belong on this program since she'd already been announced as the new 'ette.

I turned off the ATFR as soon as CH announced why Rachel was there. I think this was totally unfair to Nick and Vanessa and totally fuels any rumors that they're not going to "make it" in RL. JMHO.

Any congrats to Nick & V from the mean girls "squad" this season? I don't follow any of them

The only three i saw congratulated N&V are Dani M (posted on IG), Tayloor and Christen (left comments). I'm so soooo disappointed on these immature girls more and more everyday.

IMO Raven & crew seem happy they dodged the bullet with Nick. Seems like more than a few, over 4 different shows, men & women feel the same way about Nick. The ones that actually "know" him must see/know something...

I am surprised how few girls from this season congratulated Nick and Vanessa and wish them luck, if he had picked Raven it probably had been different

Most of these people on different shows don't actually know him at all. They just have their opinions, like people who like him do.