Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 4 - June 19 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

For those who watched Richies season of the Bachelor, did anybody else want Olena to pop out from behind Bryan and give her superlative line "this isn't a fairytale, this is real life poop". Good for Rachel for saying it's not. You need to know these relationships will survive past the bubble, imo if she chooses Bryan good luck.
#yoursmoothmovesareshowingbryan

Not sure who said it but someone mentioned earlier that Peter is stiff in yesterdays episode and while Rachel was holding his hand or was attempting to hold his hand, he had his hand on her knee. Which is true but if you literally were to watch the next few seconds there is clearly a shot of his hand no longer on her like like ✋

gramercypark10 wrote:For those who watched Richies season of the Bachelor, did anybody else want Olena to pop out from behind Bryan and give her superlative line "this isn't a fairytale, this is real life poop".  Good for Rachel for saying it's not. You need to know these relationships will survive past the bubble, imo if she chooses Bryan good luck.
#yoursmoothmovesareshowingbryan

Every single successful couple out of this franchise IMHO starts off as a fairy tale. Unlikely events that lead to a happy ending. I'm not sure why Rachel would need luck, if it's her choice and she's in love, what difference does it make in the luck department who she chooses.

GuardianAngel wrote:

gramercypark10 wrote:For those who watched Richies season of the Bachelor, did anybody else want Olena to pop out from behind Bryan and give her superlative line "this isn't a fairytale, this is real life poop".  Good for Rachel for saying it's not. You need to know these relationships will survive past the bubble, imo if she chooses Bryan good luck.
#yoursmoothmovesareshowingbryan

Every single successful couple out of this franchise IMHO starts off as a fairy tale. Unlikely events that lead to a happy ending. I'm not sure why Rachel would need luck, if it's her choice and she's in love, what difference does it make in the luck department who she chooses.

You need luck to keep a relationship solid when theres no substance to sustain it imo.

If there is no substance to a relationship, I don't think there is any saving it period. I don't know if it would constitute much of a relationship, unless it's one of a negative nature. JMO

mysthelma wrote:I know Josiah's cockiness is a total turn off but I must say he was pure entertainment during the spelling B group date....and made it enjoyable IMO

I like Josiah too. I just think his being a lawyer is not in his plus column for Rachel. Imo, if she was interested in marrying a lawyer, she probably would already be married cause she is around lawyers all the time!! I am pretty sure she has a no dating lawyers rule, or at least I think that I read that.

Most girls would be swooning to date a successful good looking lawyer! I am sure he will get scooped up quickly back home.

I fail to understand why so many people do take as face value what they see on their TV screen when we know that the prods edited the hundred of hours taped so the segments fit the script they wrote even before the season even started. IMO

This is what a TV reality show is about. An edited heavily scripted version of the reality. What you see is NEVER what you get IMHO

^^ ITA!! How very true!!

mysthelma wrote:I know Josiah's cockiness is a total turn off but I must say he was pure entertainment during the spelling B group date....and made it enjoyable IMO

The cockiness was a part of the entertainment.

@Hea, right on spot, this has been going a long time with the old tricks, the PI's and ITM's are there to deceive you, not to tell the truth (tell their own story )

I was taught there is no such thing as luck but blessing and cursing jmo

HEA wrote:I fail to understand why so many people do take as face value what they see on their TV screen when we know that the prods edited the hundred of hours taped so the segments fit the script they wrote even before the season even started. IMO

This is what a TV reality show is about. An edited heavily scripted version of the reality. What you see is NEVER what you get IMHO

yes but we cannot sleuth what we dont see or assume something we dont see has happened!

gramercypark10 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

gramercypark10 wrote:For those who watched Richies season of the Bachelor, did anybody else want Olena to pop out from behind Bryan and give her superlative line "this isn't a fairytale, this is real life poop".  Good for Rachel for saying it's not. You need to know these relationships will survive past the bubble, imo if she chooses Bryan good luck.
#yoursmoothmovesareshowingbryan

Every single successful couple out of this franchise IMHO starts off as a fairy tale. Unlikely events that lead to a happy ending. I'm not sure why Rachel would need luck, if it's her choice and she's in love, what difference does it make in the luck department who she chooses.

You need luck to keep a relationship solid when theres no substance to sustain it imo.

That sam "luck" will be needed if Peter is F1 as well. I don't see a difference both need substance to survive outside the bubble
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ReneeM wrote:

Diana wrote:He was dammed if he did or dammed if he didn't at this point. No matter what he did, people were going to hate. I'm glad he did the right thing even if it was "image" related. To me, it was because he's being a supportive fiancé

All JMO

IMO Being a supportive fiancé means not waiting until you're criticized to do the right thing. It means not waiting for your AA fiancée to go off on SM before you're like 'oh lemme unfollow this racist'. I'm glad he did it, but he doesn't get cookies from me for finally doing it. All Jmo.

IMO, for him to unfollow Lee after the epi aired and he was dragged for it, really means nothing. He was there while Lee was showing his colors and should have never followed him. Too little too late, for me. That action (or inaction) spoke very loudly to his belief system. And that's one reason why Dean earned my respect. He spoke up. Having friends of color is really insignificant compared to his tolerance of people like Lee. And, for me, the negative of following Lee has nothing to do with him F1, F2 or being a fiance...it's about the core value of supporting a racist.