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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 9 - July 24 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

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Re: Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 9 - July 24 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Post by djogbenyuie on Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:35 pm

Amethyst wrote:
djogbenyuie wrote:She loves his confidence, his good heart, the fact that he is focused on their relationship and accept her with her flaws. The fact that he is strong for both of them in the process....
The second 1o1 is full of why she is invested in Bryan, plus the convo with his mother

I hope (for Rachel's sake) that he has a good heart, but I'm not convinced of it as you are. Time will tell.

Those were Rachel words and I believe her since I don't know the guy and never will.
The only thing I can relate to as a viewer and that give me the sense that he is sincere is that he always act on what he says. For me actions matching words are a good indication that those words are not just lines.
All in all I also hope they nake it and imo they have a better chance at making it than she has with Eric or Peter.
And it has not to do with the guys themselves (dont know them) but them and Rach together (from what I see in my screen).

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Post by pbmax on Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:57 pm

Amethyst wrote:Given that the lead will almost never pick whom I would pick anyway, this is what I look for --

1. That the lead picks a good, decent person. Given my reservations about Bryan, in this case I just hope that Rachel is seeing lots of good qualities in him that have somehow eluded me as a viewer.

2. That there is a love story. I think we have seen that here, give or take. I am going to hope for Rachel's sake that Bryan has been completely sincere with her.

3. And mostly, that I understand WHY the lead chose as s/he did, especially for the F4, and most especially for the F1. Sometimes I totally get it (i.e. Ben H.'s picks) and sometimes not. While I haven't always understood her decisions, Rachel, I think, has made it very clear about what she finds attractive in Bryan. She likes his looks, and finds him sexy. They are very companionable. They have fun together. She *loves* that fact that he is very ardent and assertive in his approach to her. She loves the fact that he very much wants her and is all in.

I know we all see different things on this show and I try to look pass their sneaky editing, but if you look at his face, his eyes, to me you see more of the person. I see a genuine, sweet, caring person with good qualities. Especially during the MTP, I believe I saw a person I really like. If Rachel wants a oval ring and that's what she gets. ..I'm just so jealous of her, you go blessed girl. Everybody got flaws and a past and if we go by that then no one is gonna make, we all are doom. There are no perfect relationships or marriages out there.
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Post by Kashathediva on Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:58 pm

IDK what what the right answers are to those tv questions, but I think the wrong answers are probably: 1) Betty Crocker 2) Ben and Jerry 3) Jim Beam 4) Johnny Walker So mom and Dad might be great answers in comparisons. Just saying.


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Post by Rolly on Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:09 pm

HEA wrote:
djogbenyuie wrote:That last GiF shocked!
Just like when she was reaching for their first kiss.

Sorry but I don't buy that he was falling for her.
Nothing wrong with that but it's just sad when viewers (including some bach nation people) say they are having true love and Rachel will screw up because of engagement issue.

agree.
this is exactly what he did ALL SEASON.
this guy was never into her. that is my conclusion from day1.
as a woman, seeing this makes me cringe SO much . oh dear
a kiss............ she asked for a kiss goodbye and he still stand away from her waiting for her to make a move??????? gezzzzzzzzzzzz

Gosh do we just look at these clips and see what we want to see? I mean all of us.....I see this like their first 1:1 with his arms wrapped behind her back seems to me like he's pulling her in close. They both seem into each other and I love the way he looks at her. Maybe everyone just has their own preferences for showing love and affection. Peter to me is soft and sensual.... I don't like a tongue crammed down my throat with every kiss. Maybe bc Peter is more reserved when he shows affection it's more meaningful. JMO.

When there are scenes that don't fully make sense I remind myself that we see so little of the conversations they have. Like the comments Peter made about leaning in when they were kissing each other or him saying he kind of thought so when Rachel said she was falling in love too. I just felt like we were missing a part of the conversation that would help explain where the comments came from. JMO.
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Post by Shadow on Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:07 pm

djogbenyuie wrote:
Amethyst wrote:
djogbenyuie wrote:She loves his confidence, his good heart, the fact that he is focused on their relationship and accept her with her flaws. The fact that he is strong for both of them in the process....
The second 1o1 is full of why she is invested in Bryan, plus the convo with his mother

I hope(for Rachel's sake) that he has a good heart, but I'm not convinced of it as you are. Time will tell.

Those were Rachel words and I believe her since I don't know the guy and never will.
The only thing I can relate to as a viewer and that give me the sense that he is sincere is that he always act on what he says. For me actions matching words are a good indication that those words are not just lines.
All in all I also hope they nake it and imo they have a better chance at making it than she has with Eric or Peter.
And it has not to do with the guys themselves (dont know them) but them and Rach together (from what I see in my
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Post by pavalygurl on Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:24 pm

Rolly wrote:
HEA wrote:
djogbenyuie wrote:That last GiF shocked!
Just like when she was reaching for their first kiss.

Sorry but I don't buy that he was falling for her.
Nothing wrong with that but it's just sad when viewers (including some bach nation people) say they are having true love and Rachel will screw up because of engagement issue.

agree.
this is exactly what he did ALL SEASON.
this guy was never into her. that is my conclusion from day1.
as a woman, seeing this makes me cringe SO much . oh dear
a kiss............ she asked for a kiss goodbye and he still stand away from her waiting for her to make a move??????? gezzzzzzzzzzzz

Gosh do we just look at these clips and see what we want to see? I mean all of us.....I see this like their first 1:1 with his arms wrapped behind her back seems to me like he's pulling her in close. They both seem into each other and I love the way he looks at her. Maybe everyone just has their own preferences for showing love and affection. Peter to me is soft and sensual.... I don't like a tongue crammed down my throat with every kiss. Maybe bc Peter is more reserved when he shows affection it's more meaningful. JMO.

When there are scenes that don't fully make sense I remind myself that we see so little of the conversations they have. Like the comments Peter made about leaning in when they were kissing each other or him saying he kind of thought so when Rachel said she was falling in love too. I just felt like we were missing a part of the conversation that would help explain where the comments came from. JMO.

Rolly I am with you. I just like Peter's style more. He is sensual IMO. Bryan still reminds me of the youngish guy who can't believe the beautiful girl is his date. IMO, he is "showing off" and I still think his kisses are juvenile. But again, Rachel wants him and he is willing right now. I like Rachel a lot as the Bachelorette. I wish her all the happiness in the world and for her, I wish they succeed and have a happy life.

OT, all this talk about the family visit makes me think back to favorite family visits for better or worse. Jason's time with the dead bird, the taxidermist dad, Jo Jo's mom needing a stiff drink of wine all had me in stitches. My all time favorite parent however, remains Ed Lambert, for so many reasons.

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Post by Ilovepeter on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:10 pm

Does anyone remember what episode it was the Rachel said Bryan sees and accepts her flaws? That made me scratch my head at the time, because we saw nothing like that up until that point. She also said she's never been with someone that makes her feel like he's all in. If anyone remembers when these things happened, that would be great. I recall she was crying and emotional in those talking heads, and it didn't match up to what was happening in the scenes.  I'd like to watch it again and see if those are from her back and forth struggle with the two guys in the finale.

I believe she was very tempted by Peter otherwise she wouldn't have been such a mess at the end. She's isn't desperate for money, so I also don't believe that she tried to pull an engagement out of both of her F2s for the bonus. I don't believe she knew it was Bryan from the first night. JMO.

I have accepted that Rachel has chosen Bryan and I'm genuinely happy for her because she is so happy. But I am deeply disappointed that she's blabbed to everyone, including this board, that she's with Bryan. Why would she tell her little Bachelor friends, all of whom are dying to be on TV and have the biggest chance of a slipping up? I'm not impressed with her ability to keep up the confidentiality portion of her contract given what she does for a living. JMO

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Post by Nibbles22 on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:29 pm

I think Rachel was a mess at the end, because she was thinking ~ THANK GOD, I can FINALLY get rid of him!! 

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Post by HEA on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:44 pm

darn... I must miss tons of info on this board.... rachel came incognito and told she was with bryan???

handwave Rachel.... I am happy that you are very much in love with your Bryan AND that he returns the same love back at you!
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Post by lleyki on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:49 pm

Does anyone remember what episode it was the Rachel said Bryan sees and accepts her flaws? That made me scratch my head at the time, because we saw nothing like that up until that point. She also said she's never been with someone that makes her feel like he's all in. If anyone remembers when these things happened, that would be great. I recall she was crying and emotional in those talking heads, and it didn't match up to what was happening in the scenes. I'd like to watch it again and see if those are from her back and forth struggle with the two guys in the finale.

It was the episode with the Viking group date. I think she said it during their one on one time during the night portion of the group date, when she was asking him if his family would accept her.

It is always a good thing to remember that everyone has their own things that appeal to them, when people get so intense about who the lead should pick. Because for example, I'm reading the comment about Peter being sensual and my initial snarky response is to wonder how a block of wood can be sensual?

Because the truth is I've spent this whole season trying to find anything resembling a personality in Peter. I feel like I'm watching Pinocchio sometimes - eventually he'll become a real boy and why the guys from Two Bros always have me rolling with their robotic imitation of him.

But that's because guys like Peter are not my type. Yeah on an aesthetic level he's clearlyl good looking. But that has never been enough for me. I like weird, I like off-beat. It's why I loved, loved the Nick we met on Andi's season. He was snarky and slightly dorky looking. But I get that's not some people's type.

And for the record, Bryan's not my type either. But the point is, it's not about me. This is about Rachel. And I think sometimes viewers get so caught up in their crushes and how they feel for these contestants that they project that on the lead, not remembering that they're the ones that have to be with this person.

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Post by Just Looking on Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:36 pm

pbmax wrote:
Amethyst wrote:Given that the lead will almost never pick whom I would pick anyway, this is what I look for --

1. That the lead picks a good, decent person. Given my reservations about Bryan, in this case I just hope that Rachel is seeing lots of good qualities in him that have somehow eluded me as a viewer.

2. That there is a love story. I think we have seen that here, give or take. I am going to hope for Rachel's sake that Bryan has been completely sincere with her.

3. And mostly, that I understand WHY the lead chose as s/he did, especially for the F4, and most especially for the F1. Sometimes I totally get it (i.e. Ben H.'s picks) and sometimes not. While I haven't always understood her decisions, Rachel, I think, has made it very clear about what she finds attractive in Bryan. She likes his looks, and finds him sexy. They are very companionable. They have fun together. She *loves* that fact that he is very ardent and assertive in his approach to her. She loves the fact that he very much wants her and is all in.

I know we all see different things on this show and I try to look pass their sneaky editing, but if you look at his face, his eyes, to me you see more of the person.  I see a genuine,  sweet,  caring person with good qualities. Especially during the MTP, I believe I saw a person I really like. If Rachel wants a oval ring and that's what she gets. ..I'm just so jealous of her, you go blessed girl. Everybody got flaws and a past and if we go by that then no one is gonna make, we all are doom. There are no perfect relationships or marriages out there.
IA 100% pbmax with your observations and comments on Bryan. I see a mature, respectful, caring, genuine gentleman with good life and family values who is completely in love with and committed to Rachel. To me they seem very compatible in every way and I hope she chooses him. As he has said, He was there for her even before he met her and he hasnt wavered at all. JMO

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Post by philphan on Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:48 pm

Ilovepeter wrote:Does anyone remember what episode it was the Rachel said Bryan sees and accepts her flaws? That made me scratch my head at the time, because we saw nothing like that up until that point. She also said she's never been with someone that makes her feel like he's all in. If anyone remembers when these things happened, that would be great. I recall she was crying and emotional in those talking heads, and it didn't match up to what was happening in the scenes.  I'd like to watch it again and see if those are from her back and forth struggle with the two guys in the finale.

I believe she was very tempted by Peter otherwise she wouldn't have been such a mess at the end. She's isn't desperate for money, so I also don't believe that she tried to pull an engagement out of both of her F2s for the bonus. I don't believe she knew it was Bryan from the first night. JMO.

I have accepted that Rachel has chosen Bryan and I'm genuinely happy for her because she is so happy. But I am deeply disappointed that she's blabbed to everyone, including this board, that she's with Bryan. Why would she tell her little Bachelor friends, all of whom are dying to be on TV and have the biggest chance of a slipping up? I'm not impressed with her ability to keep up the confidentiality portion of her contract given what she does for a living. JMO

I really wish that SM would be off limits for the lead and final F1, F2, and F3. I miss the days of traditional sleuthing.. Why must they post pics during SHV weekends? Grrr.....
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