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Bachelorette 14 - Becca Kufrin - Media SM - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #6

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Post by GuardianAngel on Wed May 30, 2018 8:10 pm

Previous threads here

Continue #6 here

There were so many good posts too many to carry forward. If anyone wants their post brought forward, please let me know.

cookielover12 wrote:I wonder what Becca would be saying if she actually didn't pick Garrett..

ElonM wrote:Ashley Spivey is on the case

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Amethyst wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
lstiff wrote:snipped..

THIS. I really don't like or agree with his "likes" BUT he is not tweeting out vile words (like some other folks with big platforms) and there is no proof that HE is the one who hit the "like" button. I know that makes me Devil's Advocate but really it's not like this guy is being belligerent about his opinions (as awful as they may be) so it's pure speculation at this point and he is 1 guy out of 20 something on a TV show that many people don't watch or make fun of. If he is really F1 then it may be a slippery slope at the end but I'm just really confused at the hate at this point. IMHO

I'm not sure what there is to be confused about. He "liked" several comments on SM that are IMO are highly disgusting. Everyone has the right to post their opinions on how they feel. Like him or not, IMO there is proof that he did like them with s/shots posted to prove it. I don't hate anyone, but I can certainly post my opinions on how I think one has to be sick in the head to believe or agree with those posts.

I posted my thoughts about the hacker theory around here but I just don't see a hacker intentionally getting into his IG, following all sorts of questionable accounts, going through posts from months ago, liking them, then keeping the account private. What benefit is that? His account was private all through filming. Only until his account went public someone dug deeper into his account IMO and found the likes. Probably after seeing his list of accounts he's following.

Garrett would not have been able to get into the account without the assistance of IG. He was spending extra days in the Maldives after the FRC and was able to delete the link account from his bio. Proof in our s/shot. So on March 10th 11th? he was able to access his account. It couldn't have been hacked then. When exactly did the hacker get into his IG preventing Garrett from using his account?

We have s/caps of his SM activity, his followings numbers didn't go up so the hacker didn't follow the accounts, they must have always been there otherwise they would have shown as recent follows. Once the account was public, and the likes were found, he was quick to set it back to private and delete it altogether creating a brand spanking new on. If he was hacked, he should have IMO posted that immediately on his new IG. I would have, a lot of people do that.

I'll give an example.

Let's say that Garrett supports the wall. Fine. I don't happen to agree with that, but he's entitled to his opinion. If he stated that opinion in a thoughtful, respectful manner, I'd be okay with it. But approving a photo which jokes about an American soldier "throwing" a child over a wall? Tone deaf. Insensitive. Disgusting.

I teach school and I have had many immigrant students. Some are here legally, some not. For the most part, they are great kids -- respectful and hard-working. They don't deserve this mean-spirited meme. They are normal, loving children. Garrett would not like his own future children treated in this manner.

I don't want to hate on Becca, but if this were my boyfriend/fiancé, I would find his online behavior completely unacceptable. And I would wonder if this were just the tip of the iceberg.

When I saw that post in particular I was shocked and horrified. That guy is super dark IMO. What makes it worse is he plays such a good "nice guy".

GuardianAngel wrote:
nananana wrote:A better explanation, IMO the best we will get right now. She can’t say much more more until the finale.http://www.etonline.com/bachelorette-becca-kufrin-addresses-frontrunner-garrett-yrigoyens-instagram-controversy-exclusive

"I can't fault on anyone for what they believe and who's to say that anyone is truly what they believe in if they just double tap," Becca reasoned. "I can't speak to that because that's just not me. I am a strong woman and I do believe in certain things, but again, that's what's so great about our country -- everyone is entitled to their own opinions."

I never thought Becca was a strong woman, actually the opposite, so that's no biggie, but the double tap explanation? Excuse my language, she's eff'd. It reminds me of my g/f who was dating a looser, she seemed to loose all her common sense, and justified his existence living in her house and mooching off of her with her stupid explanations, he's starting a new job next week, 3 yrs later, there still wasn't a new job. She's IMO is believing whatever crap he's thrown her way.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and if someone likes body shaming, making fun of gays, and dead kids, yeah that's their opinion but I sure as hell wouldn't be dating the guy, let a lone marry him. I wouldn't have a sit down conversation to work it out.  No strong woman that I know would. Her behaviour doesn't surprise me, and IMo it's going to get worse. The more she's asked, the more she's going to crack. There was a clip I watched yesterday, I forget which one, when asked how her parents feel, her demeanour and face changed and made me wonder what that was all about.

mslat92 wrote:Spouting the "everyone is entitled to an opinion" is a bulls--t excuse. No one is saying Garrett can't have an opinion - we're saying that opinion is bigoted and hateful. So, sorry Becca, I won't have an open mind, or allow myself to love Garrett this season at the expense of my beliefs and core values.

Also, even if he was only liking those posts as a joke, that reflects someone with as much maturity and empathy as my pinkie finger.


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Post by lightredemption on Wed May 30, 2018 8:15 pm

Sure, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But in the same vein everyone else is entitled to judge that opinion and hold you accountable for it. The posts Garrett liked are so hurtful and mean spirited - the fact that he was probably casually scrolling through his phone and getting a quick laugh out of content that is so demeaning and derogatory is just... sad. If that's just a snapshot of who he is; why in the world would I care about seeing the 'full picture'
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Post by mslat92 on Wed May 30, 2018 8:20 pm

@Garrett and Becca

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Post by alwaystulips on Wed May 30, 2018 8:55 pm

Becca wrote:“I just want everyone to watch it back and to get to know these guys and to get to know me for who we really are and not social media,” Kufrin, 28, tells Lopez, “because that’s just a small glimpse into a person and it’s not always reflective of who they are.”
https://people.com/tv/becca-kufrin-garrett-yrigoyen-controversial-memes-bachelorette/

So, when did Becca buy into TPTB’s propaganda that watching this heavily edited show helps us get to know who they really are better than what they choose THEMSELVES to connect to and express on SM?  That makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Post by mercieme on Wed May 30, 2018 9:05 pm

Wow.....who is this Becca, did an alien invade her body? I just can’t....just wow.

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Post by kraft33 on Wed May 30, 2018 9:12 pm

If it wasn't Garrett she picked, she and the bachelor would be dragging him through the mud. IMO

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Post by Hawaii Girl on Wed May 30, 2018 9:13 pm

Just read Becca's statement...

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It's so upsetting to me that someone who presented herself as such an empowering, independent, liberal feminist is now just rolling over and asking the internet to please not be mean to her boyfriend because she loves him Rolling Eyes 

IMO Garrett is not sorry whatsoever, nor will he take even one second to educate himself. He's blocking people who are commenting about it on his Instagram and he's liking a bunch of comments supporting him. He's annoyed that they have to deal with nosy fans and sees it all as one big inconvenience. JMO though.


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Post by Joy15 on Wed May 30, 2018 9:16 pm

mercieme wrote:Wow.....who is this Becca, did an alien invade her body? I just can’t....just wow.

Fairly sure the "alien"  got a swag of  "hunting", "fishing" and "grabbing hair" whipped  lolpanda. And i am 100% sure the same alien has already "invaded" her body far too many times cantstopl


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Post by Kashathediva on Wed May 30, 2018 9:20 pm

Jmoaa, thankfully, I never fell for her words of being a strong, independent woman. She may have said such, but always struck me the opposite. Actions speak much louder than words imo


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Post by BlackHalo on Wed May 30, 2018 9:48 pm

kraft33 wrote:If it wasn't Garrett she picked, she and the bachelor would be dragging him through the mud. IMO

Absofreakinlutely. Why in the world should he be given a pass when no one would be.

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Post by SeekAny on Wed May 30, 2018 9:50 pm

There was an article recently with Millsy saying they planned to do more filming of the couple in safe house visits. That they really liked that last year.

I honestly think they will film Becca and Garrett discussing the likes and how they’re “working through it.”Real life conflict post show that viewers would want to see. So until then they will respond as little as possible so it plays out on ATFR. JMO.
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Post by GuardianAngel on Wed May 30, 2018 9:53 pm

Hawaii Girl wrote:snipped He's blocking people who are commenting about it on his Instagram and he's liking a bunch of comments supporting him. He's annoyed that they have to deal with nosy fans and sees it all as one big inconvenience. JMO though.

That's another issue I have. Reminds me of a couple other formers who tried to manipulate their SM to make themselves look good. If you're a good person, you wouldn't need to delete your IG,create a new one, and fudge it to make it appear you're a good guy.



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