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Bachelorette 14 - Becca Kufrin - Media SM - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #6

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Post by FLChica on Thu May 31, 2018 4:20 pm

@alwaystulips wrote:Very interesting RS podcast with Ashley Spivey on Garrett’s likes.  Not an RS fan but was keen on listening because Ashley has driven this discussion in the media. She really speaks to many core issues of this awful SM situation. This was taped Tuesday afternoon before Becca’s public comments.  They wondered, at that point, if ABC or Garrett would make any public statement.

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* Ashley corroborated the story with 3 other individuals who were following Garrett last year and confirmed they were his likes before putting up the screenshots sent to her.  

* Garrett’s actions before and since this came out have caused Ashley to question his motivations for going on the show.  While Becca had no access to Garrett’s SM, he had access to hers before filming.  Becca clearly expresses some of her views there and Ashley wondered why he would want to pursue a relationship with someone whose views are so diametrically opposed to his own.

*Once Garrett deleted his account, she wonders why he would open a new one.  If his motivation was really to be in a relationship with Becca, she questions why he would care about building any following at this point. She thinks he should’ve stayed off SM through filming.  (IMO, the show mandated he get back on)

*Ashley wants people to realize how much money people make as IG influencers once they get off the show and to think about whether they want to follow and support someone who expresses these views. 
Thanks for the details @alwaystulips! Ashley confirmed the legitimacy and frequency of Garrett's disgusting SM likes. He "knows" Becca from the show, her SM, etc. and lured his prey like the hunter he professes to be IMO. 

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Post by Maya on Thu May 31, 2018 5:19 pm

I think it is slowly going to die down for now and that is exactly what they all hoped for.
I can see it resurfacing towards the end. Blake seems like a fun, genuine guy and I have a feeling he’s going to gain a large fan base. People won’t be happy when she pics bigot G over the sweet B.

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Post by alwaystulips on Thu May 31, 2018 5:29 pm

Here’s more from Ashley Spivey in a HuffPost interview published today.  Lots of good discussion on SM and the show.

Can “The Bachelor” Recover From Its Front-Runner’s Instagram Scandal

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bachelorette-garrett-yrigoyen-instagram_us_5b0ff682e4b0870ebd090153
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Post by cookielover12 on Thu May 31, 2018 5:49 pm

@Maya wrote:I think it is slowly going to die down for now and that is exactly what they all hoped for.
I can see it resurfacing towards the end. Blake seems like a fun, genuine guy and I have a feeling he’s going to gain a large fan base. People won’t be happy when she pics bigot G over the sweet B.

Blake already has a large fan base.
Before the season premiere, I checked his IG and he had about 6,000 followers.
Now he has 20k
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Post by Minney on Thu May 31, 2018 6:40 pm

Good think Ashley Spivey is on the job! Nice way for her to extend her 15 minutes and stay relevant! giggling yes
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Post by Joy15 on Thu May 31, 2018 6:40 pm

@alwaystulips tyvm for the RS podcast recap

i wonder, if there is/will be a trouble in paradise sooner or later Emily will speak up?..She has been vocal about Ross coming on the show and how TPTB played some roles in that fiasco. I really wonder if she feels ABC has thrown her sissy under the bus again. :halo


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Post by eliza3 on Thu May 31, 2018 7:18 pm

@Minney wrote:Good think Ashley Spivey is on the job!  Nice way for her to extend her 15 minutes and stay relevant! giggling yes

I am glad Ashley is on the job!

I respectfully disagree in that I don't think Ashley outed Garrett to keep herself relevant. I believe she didn't want those ugly "likes" to be hidden back in his past IG's. I don't see her seeking the limelight or living in the "afterglow of the BN"

Good for her and the conversation it has provoked. JMHO
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Post by Kashathediva on Thu May 31, 2018 7:26 pm

I think it would have come out regardless of Ashley. Many knew about it several days before she got involved. Did it get more attention because of her? Yes. If that’s how Garrett feels, I don’t see him being ashamed. Most people are supportive of their own value system.


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Post by Joy15 on Thu May 31, 2018 7:35 pm



3:00 she was quick to response : I DO (being asked if she believes in love at first sight) . Back then ATFR CH asked her and she was not this sure if she believes in LAFS.  Apparently this silly show and G have successfully turned her to be a believer. (I should put sprinklehearts emoji, but i refrain LOL)

Gee..why not sending all the rest of 27 guys home on night 1 then  laugh out loud ?...Such a waste of time for Blake (and Jason).IMO


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Post by alwaystulips on Thu May 31, 2018 7:43 pm

I also disagree that Ashley wants more fame. When I listened to the podcast, I got the feeling she wasn’t entirely thrilled about being a spokesperson, but that she finds Garrett’s SM activity so horrendous that she felt compelled to talk about it after the screenshots were sent to her and she confirmed they were his.
I also think it would’ve surfaced regardless of Ashley.

I don’t hate Garrett, but I believe those memes are hateful, IMO.  He had a pattern of liking them.  I also dislike that Becca didn’t say I was surprised to learn this and disagree with the views in those memes. That’s all she had to say.  But, maybe she doesn’t believe that.

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Post by Joy15 on Thu May 31, 2018 7:53 pm

FWIW , as far as i know, Spivey is a very active redditor. When folks there firstly found Garrett's likes, someone reached to her to bring up the issue. These all long before she posted some of it on twitter. Apparently she has done some digging herself before made all public.

IMO she has always been consistent with her values and been vocals about the show throughout the years. I have always liked her since she is just "what you see is what you get", my kinda gal Smiley .




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Post by SeekAny on Thu May 31, 2018 8:00 pm

At this point it seemed like Becca was told not to even talk about the content of the likes as if she hadn’t even seen them yet. I won’t hold Becca accountable until she’s able to speak freely. It was so general. Nothing she says right now will be good enough. I need to watch it play out. ABC is plotting how it will as I type Im sure. Becca is clearly not able to speak out like Ashley. She’s in love with the guy who did it, it’s just a lose lose for her right now. This isn’t a poor Becca post, just gotta admit its a crappy turn of events for her and it all happened so fast. Home girl probably hasn’t even had time to process it.
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