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Post by AllAboutLove on Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:17 am

I’ve always said that if Chelsea is not F1 then it has to be an intruder imo. 

Considering 8 intruders arrive on the 2nd episode then it’s very possible that one of those women are the F1. Totally believable not just betting-odds-wise but because it’s the 2nd episode they’re on even playing field with the original women since it’s when Matt has just met them anyway. 

Will have to see what the odds are like after episode 2 and the intruders arrive. If an intruder has odds favorite to win it will be a done deal. If it’s still Chelsea then I’d still think it’s her.
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Post by AllAboutLove on Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:20 am

Apologies for back to back posts. Just had a thought. 

If Chelsea is not F1 and an intruder is F1 then it completely makes sense for Sportsbet to push Chelsea and get some fast money *before* the real F1 shows up as an intruder on the second episode. SB is super shady and it’s very much their style to be shady so no scenario (Chelsea winning or not winning) and using it to their advantage will surprise me.
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Post by Bobette on Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:25 am

@AllAboutLove Yes that's exactly what I'm waiting for too.  The full list will clarify things IMO.  yes

It's a bonus the intruders come in to early and so we won't be in limbo till midseason like we were with Stu (he came in ep 5 in a season of 12 eps) 

That means for almost half of Sophie's season, F1 wasn't even an option on Sportsbet's list.

So.  Fricken.  Dodgy.

ETA:  Just caught your second post.

@AllAboutLove wrote: If Chelsea is not F1 and an intruder is F1 then it completely makes sense for Sportsbet to push Chelsea and get some fast money *before* the real F1 shows up as an intruder on the second episode. SB is super shady and it’s very much their style to be shady so no scenario (Chelsea winning or not winning) and using it to their advantage will surprise me.

YES!!!  This is exactly what I have been saying.  :yes:


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Post by AllAboutLove on Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:27 am

@Bobette :yes: dodgy for sure. It’s probably why the list of women haven’t been released since the intruders arrive 2nd episode so the night after the premiere they’ll be seen. Equal footing pretty much and the earliest a group of intruders have arrived. Perhaps the betting sites know something like you’ve speculated thumbsup
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Post by Bobette on Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:38 am

@AllAboutLove It just seems so incredibly suspicious to me.  Upthread I posted snippets of Sportsbet's media releases in previous seasons.  They are all misleading.  

Quoting myself below from the SM thread - the wording of Sportsbet's "leak" is deliberate IMO.  They conveniently don't outright say Chelsea is the winner.

@Bobette wrote:I'm so impressed with Richie Rich's clever wording here: 

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"IF the select few people who know who wins have placed bets..." is perfect, because then if/when someone else wins they get to throw their hands in the air and say "oh no way man, who saw that coming?!  Chelsea and Matt are, like, sooo PERFECT together! Oh well, I guess those sneaky producers fooled us all hey guys? Better luck next season!" [or better yet: Try the ponies instead!]

Just bravo, really excellent work.    thumbsup

What better way to make some quick cash than to open betting early, have the girl who's most hyped in the media as the current favourite, and then "leak" her name.

People rush to open an account, thinking Chelsea's a sure thing.  If she's not F1, Sportsbet can play dumb.  All they've done is said She's the current favourite.  Which she is.

If she is F1, they lose money, but X number of suckers now have money stuck in their betting account, which is awkward to withdraw from, so will probably be re-bet (and lost).

The thing is, considering Sportsbet could "attract" punters in ways other than leaking the winner (and thereby deliberately losing money) why on earth would they do it
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Post by AllAboutLove on Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:58 am

@"Bobette” :yes: they’re super shady that’s for sure. Plotting away. Now too long to see plotting
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Post by Bobette on Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:56 pm

@AllAboutLove wrote:Oooh nice! Thank you for finding and posting all that!

Do we have any stats for other seasons for Bach AU F1 other than Laura’s? Because it could be that Laura is the outlier and things aren’t being done differently this season but we’re done differently for Laura.

Iirc for Alex she had the early odds favorite but Nikki did for a bit too. Not sure about snez.

I do recall though how discussion regarding Laura’s odds were unprecedentedly low.

So I’m not sure that she is the base line to compare to considering there’s 5 other seasons for F1 and she’s only 1 of them (excluding Honey Badger).

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@AllAboutLove, I wasn't sleuthing during the early seasons but Nick's is an interesting one to look at since there was no F1 and something seemed "off" from the beginning.

The early figures pointed to Brooke as F1, then Sophie, then Britt.  Her odds got very low, making her look like a rock solid favourite (and Sportsbet were touting her as such in media releases).

It was really weird how the favourite flip flopped so much, and max bets were suspiciously high throughout the season.  They then shot up to a massive $1000 for all girls right before the finale.  

Can't quote from his archived thread but have taken some screen caps. Sportsbet was one of the biggest clues Nick chose no one which is why all this Chelsea business has me Suspect

ETA: To clarify, we had already sleuthed that Brooke would walk which is why we only focussed on Britt & Sophie. Also, @Sundy your comment about it being a bumpy year for the franchise was spot on... and then BiP made things even WORSE!  cantstopl

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Post by AllAboutLove on Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:56 am

Thanks for all that @Bobette bestbud!




Any odds yet now that all the contestants have been released?
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Post by Bobette on Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:06 pm

@AllAboutLove no still just the initial 6.  

I think they must release the odds before the premiere though since with Ali I can remember paying close attention when she met Taite. I'll pop over now to her thread and check...

ETA: For Ali's season the bios were released on Sunday and the first odds Monday morning around 10am.
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Post by Dirty Street Pie on Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:05 am

The magnificent bast*rds at Sportsbet have the odds for all girls, and our favourite is now Sam (who??) on $2, max bet $100, max loss $100, then Chelsie on $2.50, max bet $67, max loss $100.50. All other max bets are $50, making the odds as they are in order, as all the other max losses are more than $100.

ETA Ok, I remember who Sam is now. Can’t see why she is the decoy, apart from being a long haired blonde from Victoria, maybe they are hoping people will get her and Chelsie mixed up? laugh out loud


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