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Post by GuardianAngel on Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:41 am

As some have expressed a place to keep track and / or discuss timelines I think we'll try this.

This thread is to discuss and sleuth any timeline you would like to discuss. Any posts that are not in relation to the topic title will be deleted.

For those that may not know:

Please use the quote button when you would like to respond to a post.

Choose quote, the post will appear in the reply box, type after the quote tag.

Within that quote you can bold anything specific that you wish to address.

If you want to reply to several posts, choose the multi quote button. When you're done reading, choose reply and all the posts will be in your reply box. Respond to any post AFTER THE QUOTE TAG.

I always simply use "multi quote" in case there are more than one post that I want to reply to while I'm catching up on posts.

If there is a specific timeline you are working on for example Jed's ex etc, I can create a NO Discussion thread which would be your own thread to keep track of your work. It would be titled with your username and what the content of the thread will be.

Example Bachelorette 15 Hannah Brown - Timeline - Tyler - NO Discussion - bachwatcher

Although it will be a NO Discussion thread, you would be free to post whatever you would like in that thread. You can quote one of your posts, then add new information or simply use it for notes or however you prefer to sleuth.

If someone see's information that is not correct or needs to be changed, you can quote the post in the No Discussion thread, choose quote, copy the whole post, back out of the post, and come here to this thread and paste it. Add your comments, AFTER THE QUOTE TAG.

This process doesn't have to be just for Timelines, we can try it with whatever topic you like.

Let me know if anyone has any questions or idea's that would make it easier.


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Post by Julie81 on Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:14 pm

This will help tremendously, GA!! Thank you! This is one crazy wild ride for sure!
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Post by sdmom on Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:04 pm

Ok I will start from FD onwards, because there are things that don’t make sense to me. Here we go!

Warning: it’s going to be an Epic post!

Timelines- FD Onwards-No Discussion thread

According to our filming schedule
http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5119p12-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-filming-schedule-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

Episode 9 - FDs (3 - 2) Luke, Peter, Tyler, Jed
4/29: FD1:
4/30: day off
5/1: FD2 :
5/2: day off

Interesting tidbits:

According to Socialblade, https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/wyattjed/monthly, scroll down to see the graphics

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Jed had twitter activities 5/2 after inactive for one month. I remember our queen of sm tracking @smg2587 posted about it too. Please verify, @smg2587!

That’s why some of us thought Jed was eliminated at f4. How do we explain him being active during filming? I think it was an private account so for him to accept a follower someone had to have access to Jed’s account. He had a manager? Family members?

My conspiracy theory #1: he was eliminated or left on his own then came back. Hannah’s being upset in that halter dress is about him, not about Luke.

Screencaps credits to our SC queen @alwayscooking, from SC thread http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5201-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-scaps-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

This is Jed’d FD in Elounda Mare , Crete, location identified by the spoiler account https://www.instagram.com/p/By5zNJVH68i/?igshid=wrt6p74ice69

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5/3: FD3:

5/4: FD4:LUKE - Santorini, Greece - know it is his as tweeted pics came out. - was eliminated during date

According to our poster @luvstx, TripAdvisor posters reported bad weather, (confirmed by screencaps, raining during night portion of Hannah and Luke’s FD. Ferries and some flights were canceled between Santorini and Mykonos

5/5: 9th Rose Ceremony: ELIMINATED: LUKE (per RS) during date, PETER during RC

Many think this is the F3 RC, same location as Jed’s FD night portion, because of the same yellow arch, in Crete.

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My question: if the weather was horrible the day before, why did they go back to Crete, then go again to Santorini for MTP and FRC?
(I will talk later why I think MTP and FRC were in Santorini)

My conspiracy theory #2: TPTB had pre-planned 3 FDs as usual, but Luke was too good to let go at f4, knowing his view on sex would clash with Hannah, so they added him later (for old timers: I remember they did kind of the same thing with Ed in Jillian’s season for FD hotel?)

Episode 10 - MTPs/LCDs/FRC (2 - 1) Tyler, Jed
5/6: MTP #1 -
5/7: MTP #2 -
5/8: LCD #1 -
5/9: LCD #2 -
5/10: Final Rose Ceremony

I need to take a break here, will be back !


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Post by smg2587 on Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:14 pm

@sdmom On the Jed's old twitter. I now think someone hacked it and its why he couldn't open it back up when he returned and basically started a new one. If I remember right there was activity 5/2-5/4 and they where all small changes but noticeable since it happen 3 days in a row. He was still in Greece during that time it seems.

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Post by sdmom on Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:19 pm

@smg2587 thanks! Maybe it’s like what you think but the timing is interesting for me: 5/2-5/4 gives him enough time to leave and come back. Well, we will find out soon!

Anyway, can you tell me when Hannah and the final four resurfaced on sm? I think one of them, Tyler? made his account public almost the same time as Hannah?


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Post by smg2587 on Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:27 pm

@sdmom wrote:@smg2587 thanks! Maybe it’s like what you think but the timing is interesting for me: 5/2-5/4 gives him enough time to leave and come back. Well, we will find out soon!

Anyway, can you tell me when Hannah and  the final four resurfaced on sm? I think one of them, Tyler? made his account public almost the same time as Hannah?
Luke was public on IG the day before the premier May 12. 
Peter was public on IG the day of the premier May 13.
Tyler started following people the day of the premier but did not open his page until May 15th around the time Hannah made her first post from filming. Posted his first picture May 16th.
Jed I believe opened his IG page May 14th or 15th and made his first post that day.


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Post by GuardianAngel on Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:33 pm

@sdmom awesome! clapping!

@smg2587 which one would be his old and new twitter since both of them were opened a few years ago.

@WyattJed Private Joined January 2012

@jedwyattmusic Public Joined January 2013

We were capturing his Private twitter account in his thread, so we don't have info on the public one (I don't think we new it existed?) but I noticed the tweets on his public only start from May/2019. Would that be the new one he started, or maybe he deleted prior tweets to start using it strictly for the show.

The activity during filming IMHO had to be someone had a phone and he accessed it, or someone had access to his twitter (which I don't think he would do that) It was very minimal activity so I'm thinking he was able to access his own account.

If it was hacked, there would be much more activity on Social Blade unless twitter was able to regain it back for him and that's why the tweets start May/19.

ETA: I forgot to add @sdmom's theory that Jed might have left during the date when Hannah storms off, hence SM activity!!! Quite possible he left and had phone access.


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Post by smg2587 on Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:36 pm

@GuardianAngel  The @wyattjed one was the old one that I followed during filming. 

I had no clue about the other one until Dylan started following it and linked it to tweets when episodes started airing.

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Post by GuardianAngel on Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:50 pm

@smg2587 Yes, I think we weren't aware of it because we didn't s/shot it like we did with the wyattjed twitter.

I was able to capture the following on May 1/19 for those who can't tell by the graph because you have to hover on the actual graph.

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Post by sdmom on Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:21 pm

Let the epic continue...

5/5: Jed’s dad posted on IG but the post is deleted. Thanks to our amazing board, it was copied and saved here: page 4 of Jed thread:

http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5131p36-bachelorette-15-jed-wyatt-sleuthing-spoilers

Continue on filming schedule
Episode 10 - MTPs/LCDs/FRC (2 - 1) Tyler, Jed
5/6: MTP #1 -
5/7: MTP #2 -
RS reported Luke was eliminated
5/8: LCD #1 -
5/9: LCD #2 -

CH was spotted in Santorini according to the spoiler site:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxSlA7Dgzha/?igshid=16njsxf1dka5e

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5/10: FRC

According to Hannah’s family sm posting :

Brother-in-law (or cousin or uncle, sorry I can’t remember)
https://www.instagram.com/bamaboy1981
5/7 Crete
5/9 Santorini
Brother Patrick https://www.instagram.com/patrickbrown81
5/8 Crete
5/9 Santorini
Dad Robert https://www.instagram.com/robertbrown2400
(I don’t think dad’s posting is helpful because I think it’s later-gram)

I think MTP are in Crete
LCD and FRC are in Santorini
But we need more screencaps to confirm.

5/10 someone claimed to be Luke’s friend on Reddit Jed was in F2

5/12 Luke IG public

5/13 Hannah back to the States
Season Premier
Patrick Brown followed Haley Stevens
Peter IG public
Tyler followed someone but still private

5/14 Jed IG public
ETA: Hannah’s mom followed both Jed (public) and Tyler (private). I have screenshots of both follows.

5/15 Hannah first IG post
Tyler IG public
Tyler’s friend post on IG story of his first sighting (her account is private, so I can’t post the SC)
Jed’s first IG post

5/16 Tyler first IG

This is what I have pre filming, but I definitely need some help here.
@smg2587, @mercieme, @ReneeM, @Astrobach, @alwayscooking and any other amazing sleuthers, please help!


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Post by sdmom on Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:23 pm

For their first possible SHV:

I was out of the country during those weeks, so I may have missed something. Most of the info is from here

http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5222-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

All time PST

5/20 RS spoiled Tyler f1
ETA:Kelly Keegs did her IG Live about Jed’s gf

5/27 Hannah on flight to LA wearing the eye necklace
5/28 H photo shoots in LA
5/29 H seen in a mall
5/30 H not seen but on sm
5/31 H in IG story  with producer Todd Snyder’s dog in a hotel room-like
6/1 H in IG story going to iHeart award show in a hotel room-like

6/1 Jed post IG story around 1:30 pm
J sighting in Nashville airport around 5: 30 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByMAAhkBVme/?igshid=s3sgw3ouj6b2

Tyler was accounted for at home

My guess is SHV 5/30-31?


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Post by sdmom on Tue Jul 02, 2019 6:08 pm

Now it’s the messy part, where it became The Most Dramatic Season Ever.

http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5222-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

6/7 CMA fest. H in Nashville (left quickly on 6/8) RS reported they met up.

6/10 H in Miami
6/11 H in Mexico
6/13 Haley Stevens did the interview with People

6/14 Hannah sighted in Phoenix airport at 3 pm
Jed IG live story

6/16 H and J throwback pictures to Father’s Day on IG story

6/18 RS spoiler Jed f1
People published Haley story

6/19 H posted on IG
6/20 H in LA Dodgers game
J on sm
Lauren Zima of ETonline interviewed Haley

6/21 J on fan’s page singing HBD
https://www.instagram.com/p/By_D8_CHENX/

ETA J Photoed with friends
https://www.instagram.com/p/By_flTVgN3_/

6/22 Jed pictured with a fan (@smg2587, can you verify?)
Not on sm until 6/26

6/24 Kelly Keegs reported film crews seenin Nashville

6/26 J made an IG post

ETA: Per @smg2587 Just going by social media activity and her apple music I thought she was home by Wednesday June 26th. That's the day she stayed up late and did the 3 hours of IG activity. Including liking the Tyler things and the Jed post. That was jmo because I also notice her mother on sm with her at the beginning and end of her social media that night. Btw the Wednesday per his girlfriends' IG stories Patrick was not home yet.

Sleuthers noticed late at night Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet and IG post and they were on at the same time, many suspected they broke up


6/27 RS reported H broke off engagement
Spoiler site and Reddit reported H ended it on Monday 6/24 in person
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzQb62sH-8s/?igshid=v59n7nrnz3w8

ETA: possible sighting of Jed in Nashville (second picture) https://www.instagram.com/p/BzQ8Dp0DPKv/


6/28 H home per brother’s story
http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5231p264-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-3

6/29 J on friend’s live story
http://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5231p288-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-3

6/30 J pictured with fans
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzWDN1nhfIQ/?igshid=12ex8eogqh7ba

7/1 H at homes and Tyler in NYC very active on twitter during show time

7/2 RS reported H broke off completely with J. Break up scene filmed in LA.

ETA: all these times Tyler is all accounted for, in NYC, Charlotte, Atlanta to promote ABC food tours

That’s a lot to type! I am sure I miss something, please feel free to correct/edit, especially @smg2587


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