Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

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Julie81 wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:

Julie81 wrote:

Alanna wrote:I think they’re in their respective home bases rn but I do think she seems to want to try again with him, even though it blows my mind. He’s nothing like the man she envisioned for herself and she followed through and actually chose that guy in the end, ofc he was scum of the earth but I’m surprised she wouldn’t just look for the real deal jed next time instead of wanting Tyler. He’s nothing like the good ole boy southern man archetype she wanted imo and she’s only seemingly into him now when jed has shown his true colors.

It’ll be so interesting to see if anything comes of this. I’m expecting all 3 to go their own ways after afr but Tyler and Hannah to be friendly.

Well, in her defense, the good ol’ southern boy she’s always gone for hasn’t worked out for her too well. I’m thinking she has seen the error of her ways and has realized what she needed and wanted was right under her nose the whole time, but I could be wrong. I could just be wanting him for myself

Let me add, that not ALL good ol’ southern boys are bad. They are actually some of the best men you’ll ever find if you can grab one up. IMO of course.

I always think back to Des and Chris’ proposal. The girl was in tears talking to Chris about how she had been blinded the whole time by what she thought she wanted, but the thing she really needed the whole time was right in front of her. It was beautiful and I actually got teary eyed watching it

I see a similar situation here. At the very least, why not give it a shot?

Yes!! Exactly. I’m not expecting wedding bells or even a proposal. I just think they owe it to themselves to try to get to know each other outside this crazy show. It’s not like she was even with Jed that long anyways. JMO

Julie81 wrote:

SeekAny wrote:I think what she wanted and what she needs are very different and after all of this she’s just realizing that.

What she needs is a man who truly understands her. Understands her struggles w anxiety and depression, who is cool talking about it. A man who will fight for her and be there for her and champion her, but know she’s completely capable all on her own. Who knows he doesn’t have to move mountains for her because she can do it all on her own. She needs a man who is faithful and embraces his faith, but will never use her own faith against her.

She needs to go back to that list she wrote in the beginning... she doesn’t need a southern macho man, she needs a good man, one who makes her better, hopefully thats what she WANTS now too.

Write this on my headstone. I’m dead.

North wrote:

Dahling wrote:Changing the subject...

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I was really disappointed with the date Hannah had with Tyler, because they totally butchered that horse date!   As someone who has rode horses growing up, I saw so many moments that just made me cringe. Lets see ~ they mounted the horses from the wrong side, their heels were not down (maybe need to adjust stirrups), holding the reins wrong - too tight. At one point Hannah was pulling the reins back, while kicking the horse to go forward, sending completely wrong messages to the horse. I'm also part Swedish and I would never touch pickled herring! Was she trying to punish him in someway? Just had to mention this...

I have no horse riding experience and that part of the date completely stressed me out. All the people. The cars. The tram in the background. The vendors. And two yahoos not knowing how to ride -- it seemed like a recipe for disaster!

I almost feel like Hannah and Tyler haven’t talked yet because if they did, I’m sure the ABC camera crew will want to be there for that or have to be contractually. I feel like her social media activity is a way of her feeling him out and seeing if he’s still interested. But I agree with another poster here that the pressure must be huge right now esp with the public being so pro-Tyler and the upcoming live taping in just three weeks.

@seekany please copy paste your entire post here, so it can amass all the MANY likes it deserves. That was beautiful. Dang. I don’t want people to miss it cause it’s in the other thread.

@ash2214 Chris’ proposal is the one time this show got me teary eyed! it was just so real, and I wasn’t even invested. I too see the similarities here. Des just got lucky that Brooks was pretty stand up and pulled himself out. Something Jed sucks at, apparently.

sosleepy wrote:@seekany please copy paste your entire post here, so it can amass all the MANY likes it deserves. That was beautiful. Dang. I don’t want people to miss it cause it’s in the other thread.

@ash2214 Chris’ proposal is the one time this show got me teary eyed! it was just so real, and I wasn’t even invested. I too see the similarities here. Des just got lucky that Brooks was pretty stand up and pulled himself out. Something Jed sucks at, apparently.

Yes to Chris' proposal being amazing! I wasn't invested in them as a couple either but man, that proposal was beautiful and heartfelt.

As for the bolded, how much more do you have in your tank? You've been on a roll! Also, still need that Go Fund me link to get you to ATFR. Probably need to double the amount b/c I think @ReneeM needs to go with.

@sosleepy seekany's post has been brought forward upthread.

@ilovepuggles i believe after Tyler defended Hannah against James Taylor, it is very likely IMO that she at least reached out to thank him and they may have chatted since is my suspicion based on SM activities last week, but we shall see......jmho.

mercieme wrote:@ilovepuggles i believe after Tyler defended Hannah against James Taylor, it is very likely IMO that she at least reached out to thank him and they may have chatted since is my suspicion based on SM activities last week, but we shall see......jmho.

keep on fighting for "your queen" TC ;)

I want Tyler to be the next Bachelor.
I want him to find a woman who is too smart to spend an entire season trying to figure out what a loser Luke P. is and ignoring an entire house full of other contestants who ALL trashed him and couldn’t stand him in the process.
I want him to find a woman with pride and dignity not, false bravado and a fondness for men with a giant question mark over their head.
I want to not have to pretend I’m proud of a young woman for taking the only and easiest way out after being left with absolutely NO CHOICE because even if she wanted to stay with Jed, those two women he was involved with made it absolutely impossible. The backlash for staying would have been seismic, she could have never weathered it, she did the only thing she could.

Several days ago I said she’s young and entitled to make mistakes like everyone else. Her job now is to learn from them.

Tyler can do better than third choice and any man who can, should, IMO. I don’t believe he wants Hannah badly enough to settle for her, now.

IMO Hannah cannot save her happy ending. She should not be willing to try at Tyler’s expense. She overlooked a bright, shiny, caring, protective diamond and hand-picked a hairball and a turd. Now she has to deal with it.

I believe Tyler wants and deserves to be first. Once again, Hannah needs to learn why she gravitates toward the wrong men but, I’ll play along if she grabs the nearest good man to hide under till this s—t storm blows over. If chivalry leads Tyler to be that man for the short term, ok. If love leads him to marry her, too bad.
All my opinion, of course.

Chgohighlife wrote:I want Tyler to be the next Bachelor.
I want him to find a woman who is too smart to spend an entire season trying to figure out what a loser Luke P. is and ignoring an entire house full of other contestants who ALL trashed him and couldn’t stand him in the process.
I want him to find a woman with pride and dignity not, false bravado and a fondness for men with a giant question mark over their head.
I want to not have to pretend I’m proud of a young woman for taking the only and easiest way out after being left with absolutely NO CHOICE because even if she wanted to stay with Jed, those two women he was involved with made it absolutely impossible. The backlash for staying would have been seismic, she could have never weathered it, she did the only thing she could.

Several days ago I said she’s young and entitled to make mistakes like everyone else. Her job now is to learn from them.

Tyler can do better than third choice and any man who can, should, IMO. I don’t believe he wants Hannah badly enough to settle for her, now.

IMO Hannah cannot save her happy ending. She should not be willing to try at Tyler’s expense. She overlooked a bright, shiny, caring, protective diamond and hand-picked a hairball and a turd. Now she has to deal with it.

I believe Tyler wants and deserves to be first. Once again, Hannah needs to learn why she gravitates toward the wrong men but, I’ll play along if she grabs the nearest good man to hide under till this s—t storm blows over. If chivalry leads Tyler to be that man for the short term, ok. If love leads him to marry her, too bad.
All my opinion, of course.

I agree with every word.

I think that now Hannah has been used to being the one pursued -- maybe it's time for her to go out on a limb and start pursuing instead. It's time for her to be vulnerable rather than expecting it from others without having to reciprocate on the same level.

^^^^appreciate your thoughts and respect your opinion.  Hannah’s season **I** know will end without the happy ending IMHO. She will get engaged and there will be a breakup. Lots of tears for sure.  

But then real life takes over.  That is what makes this so exciting.  We don’t know what will happen at the ATFR.  She is free to date whoever she wants.  She can be single, she can date men from bachelor nation or she can date Tyler.  Her choice ( and his).   I for one am very excited to see where her “journey” takes her.

I’m just three years older than Hannah, but in three years I’ve grown up a lot, mostly due to life experiences, which is normal. People make mistakes. People make bad decisions. It happens to all of us. As long as we grow from our mistakes and bad decisions then that’s the most important thing. We have to acknowledge our problems, which Hannah at least seems to be doing since she had enough self love to leave Jed. 

I mentioned this in another thread tonight, but Des IMO acted like a dang fool with Brooks. She was obsessed for no apparent reason since he didn’t give her much back. He wanted out and thankfully he left. If not, she most likely IMO would have picked him and he wouldn’t have worked out. Des got lucky Brooks was a nice enough guy to bow out. This led her to Chris, the guy she claims was what she really needed in her life. Now they are married with two sons. Life and love can be messy. I hate sounding cheesy, but if Hannah can now see Tyler is what she needs and her feelings are still there, along with Tyler’s then they should go for it. Why not? I personally don’t want to live with any what if’s. All jmo