Hannah Brown - Bachelorette 15 - Discussion #2

Idlemess wrote:Okay, I’ve read through some of the posts re the “N word”  on here and tried to do the same on Hannah’s IG.

Rachel is correct in her explanation of the N word origin and it’s intent. I do believe she was sincere in her attempt to talk to Hannah about saying the N word on a public forum.

I am a person of color. I am a black woman born and raised on an island where my ancestors were enslaved and probably heard that word day in and out.
As a child growing up on that island, that word was never used, but of course the island gained their independence from the United Kingdom.
The word was not a foreign word, it was never used. I learned about it from our history books (real world history).

I came to America, still a kid, and wow! Eyes and ears were wide open. Real time to grow up! Ripped out of the history pages and in reality. That’s the life of a person of color. It’s not what you can do or how well that is viewed; it’s the color of your skin that cast judgement upon you by individuals who felt inclined to be and to do derogatory things.

I hated that word because I knew the history and the intentional meaning behind it. I hated that word because of the ‘power’ it held on my ancestors. I hated that word because of the continuous usage. I hated that word because I was called the N word once and the visceral response was foreign (a feeling I never fathom to experience).

As a black person do I agree with it’s used in music, or in communities from one person of color to another? No, I don’t like it. But I understand THAT Black persons need to take away that intended power of hate and reclaim themselves. It’s not entirely about appropriation because Black people are not saying to white people you can call me the N word or that’s its okay White people or any other non black people You can use the word.
It’s just not okay. Period.

White people do not get to say, it’s used in song lyrics so it must be okay. What’s not okay is the lack of knowledge, the insensitivity, the privilege, the lack of conscious thoughts and feelings, the lack of awareness and the oblivion.

Hannah thread...
So if this young southern woman was singing some lyrics on a social platform and thought to not say the F word but said the N word, somewhere in her deep subconscious the N word has no relevance. It means nothing to her and the same of those people who feels the need to excuse her behavior and blame the lyrics.

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bluwavz wrote:@Dutchy23 But the f word was in that song too and she had enough self control not to say it. Why did she find the f word so much more offensive to say than the n word?

Idlemess wrote:(snipped)
So if this young southern woman was singing some lyrics on a social platform and thought to not say the F word but said the N word, somewhere in her deep subconscious the N word has no relevance. It means nothing to her and the same of those people who feels the need to excuse her behavior and blame the lyrics.

2ndcampbell wrote:*poof* And just like that all the positive things (scripture reading during Holy Week, Save With Stories, No Kid Hungry) she has done in the last 2 months evaporates due to her thoughtless action over the weekend and her halfhearted apology that came after that. Hannah should have stayed "in her lane" appreciating country music and should have never succumbed to peer pressure to listen to other types of music, especially the ones she dislikes with derogatory lyrics.

I like that she's not making any justifications nor excuses because there is no amount that will ever convince all the people that she is sorry.  IMO, her first priority is to ask forgiveness from all the POC she's closed to, like Matt and Katie and maybe Mike and Dustin. Rachel, as the reluctant spokesperson, can wait.

I hope Hannah learned a great deal from this huge lesson.

alwayscooking wrote:Was just on twitter and saw something trending... so I had a look, every 5 tweets or so the N word is being used, how is this acceptable?  

alwayscooking wrote:Was just on twitter and saw something trending... so I had a look, every 5 tweets or so the N word is being used, how is this acceptable?  

Ilo wrote:What’s the possibility that she’s done? That removing all the links to her agencies means that she is stepping away from all of this forever and going back to just being a normal person living a normal life? I could see it. I don’t know... it may just all be too much for her and she could feel there is no coming back from this.  Just something I’ve been wondering.