Bachelor 26 - Clayton Echard - F1-F6 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Can someone tell me if Both Susie and Rachel were at the girls get together when Rachel was in LA?

Loulou wrote:Can someone tell me if Both Susie and Rachel were at the girls get together when Rachel was in LA?

Do you mean the gym photo  @Loulou?  Don't believe Susie was there.

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t6230p420-bachelor-26-clayton-echard-f1-f6-sleuthing-spoilers

Thanks @Agent99 this mess has so many contradictions.
Trying to determine why Rachel was in LA and the timing. I didn’t think it was common for potential f1s to socialise with other contestants prior frc being televised ? Could Rachel’s HVday post b sarcasm considering the ..and goodnight!!!! Since she has been v quite on sm. I can’t find any of her friends/family that follow Clayton ? Also her fan accounts have stopped posting.
Whilst Susie has started to promoted the show, her father is commenting on posts, has group watch parties, friends follow Clayton etc. She just seems more excited about the whole process. Maybe it’s because she did decide to leave ?? And possibly next bachelorette. Apparently recently Joe said on his podcast his prediction is Susie f1???
Probably not relevant but noticed Kaitlin B following Susie and gabby but not Rachel??? And Clayton hasn’t posted anything from his last 1-1 with Susie.
Clayton’s wording to his parent when stating the women don’t want to be there. To me didn’t sound like only 2 women? Editing ?
B glad when this is over.

Loulou wrote:Thanks @Agent99 this mess has so many contradictions.
Trying to determine why Rachel was in LA and the timing.  I didn’t think it was common for potential f1s to socialise with other contestants prior frc being televised ?  Could Rachel’s HVday post b sarcasm considering the ..and goodnight!!!! Since she has been v quite on sm.  I can’t find any of her friends/family that follow Clayton ? Also her fan accounts have stopped posting.  
Whilst Susie has started to promoted the show, her father is commenting on posts, has group watch parties, friends follow Clayton etc. She just seems more excited about the whole process.  Maybe it’s because she did decide to leave ??  And possibly next bachelorette.  Apparently recently Joe said on his podcast his prediction is Susie f1???
Probably not relevant but noticed Kaitlin B following Susie and gabby but not Rachel???   And Clayton hasn’t posted anything from his last 1-1 with Susie.  
Clayton’s wording to his parent when stating the women don’t want to be there.  To me didn’t sound like only 2 women? Editing ?
B glad when this is over.  

I noticed that too and thought hmmm.  I don't do a lot of sm sleuthing (prefer locations), but I did also notice that only Rachel follows Clayton's producers/handlers Bradford and Parisa and wondered if that is because of a shv or a filmed reconciliation?  I have thought more than once is Rachel trolling with some of her posts so you never know

GuardianAngel wrote:@jojo47

Sooo, Peter Weber Thinks Clayton Echard Is Going to End Up Alone in His ‘Bachelor’ Finale

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/soooo-peter-weber-thinks-clayton-192400818.html

Thanks for the link!

Peter, the Bachelor that proposed to the default contestant, the only one still there.
I think PP is projecting a little, but Rachel is not Madison, and neither are Susie and Gabby. My guess is that it will be more of a Ben H situation than a PP situation (meaning the multiple ILY is the issue).

I don’t think he knows anything, and I don’t think TPTB are in his ear. Didn’t they silence him when he was off contract and thought he would be able to tell his version of the story? Say what you will about him, but I don’t see him as a company man.
JMO

Peter said on his podcast in early Feb that he ran into a good family friend of Rachel’s and that he heard something that confirms she goes far.

Based on his new prediction, maybe what he heard was that she left Iceland alone.

Agent99 wrote:

Loulou wrote:Thanks @Agent99 this mess has so many contradictions.
Trying to determine why Rachel was in LA and the timing.  I didn’t think it was common for potential f1s to socialise with other contestants prior frc being televised ?  Could Rachel’s HVday post b sarcasm considering the ..and goodnight!!!! Since she has been v quite on sm.  I can’t find any of her friends/family that follow Clayton ? Also her fan accounts have stopped posting.  
Whilst Susie has started to promoted the show, her father is commenting on posts, has group watch parties, friends follow Clayton etc. She just seems more excited about the whole process.  Maybe it’s because she did decide to leave ??  And possibly next bachelorette.  Apparently recently Joe said on his podcast his prediction is Susie f1???
Probably not relevant but noticed Kaitlin B following Susie and gabby but not Rachel???   And Clayton hasn’t posted anything from his last 1-1 with Susie.  
Clayton’s wording to his parent when stating the women don’t want to be there.  To me didn’t sound like only 2 women? Editing ?
B glad when this is over.  

I noticed that too and thought hmmm.  I don't do a lot of sm sleuthing (prefer locations), but I did also notice that only Rachel follows Clayton's producers/handlers Bradford and Parisa and wondered if that is because of a shv or a filmed reconciliation?  I have thought more than once is Rachel trolling with some of her posts so you never know

Great info. To me it sounds like word is out Susie would be the next ette.

hahahahaha Gabby and Clayton …..

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cai4iEdr2uu/?utm_medium=copy_link

Here's a theory, albeit a far fetched one...
Fleiss wanted to throw off Steve as much as possible.
What if he got Clayton and the final three to act like s* went down and Clayton ended up with nobody- therefore the whole world buys it- as far as everyone knows, that's what really happened.
To me, this whole season has been shaping up for him to end up with Rachel. His whole demeanor is different with her than anyone else. In hometowns, when the other women told them about falling in love with him, he had a huge grin plastered on his face (looked like acting to me), but when Rachel said it, he melted right into her lips.

What if they act like he slept with other people, when he didn't - stage this whole parting of ways, only to have an on screen reconciliation where he proposes to Rachel, the one - but he had to "fight for her" for these past two months. Build it up to be a swoonworthy ending that RS would never be able to spoil. Like Fleiss' tweet said, "It's not over..."

It's cacamamie, but not impossible.
Haven't been in this forum since Ben, JoJo, and Lauren days...awesome to be back!

Agent99 wrote:

Loulou wrote:Thanks @Agent99 this mess has so many contradictions.
Trying to determine why Rachel was in LA and the timing.  I didn’t think it was common for potential f1s to socialise with other contestants prior frc being televised ?  Could Rachel’s HVday post b sarcasm considering the ..and goodnight!!!! Since she has been v quite on sm.  I can’t find any of her friends/family that follow Clayton ? Also her fan accounts have stopped posting.  
Whilst Susie has started to promoted the show, her father is commenting on posts, has group watch parties, friends follow Clayton etc. She just seems more excited about the whole process.  Maybe it’s because she did decide to leave ??  And possibly next bachelorette.  Apparently recently Joe said on his podcast his prediction is Susie f1???
Probably not relevant but noticed Kaitlin B following Susie and gabby but not Rachel???   And Clayton hasn’t posted anything from his last 1-1 with Susie.  
Clayton’s wording to his parent when stating the women don’t want to be there.  To me didn’t sound like only 2 women? Editing ?
B glad when this is over.  

I noticed that too and thought hmmm.  I don't do a lot of sm sleuthing (prefer locations), but I did also notice that only Rachel follows Clayton's producers/handlers Bradford and Parisa and wondered if that is because of a shv or a filmed reconciliation?  I have thought more than once is Rachel trolling with some of her posts so you never know

Just to add to this. Rachel followed Parisa and Bradford when filming ended. When she opened her Instagram after filming it was there. I originally thought nothing of it because both Serene and Sarah followed Bradford (thought the followed Parisa as well but they don’t seem to now). But now it makes me wonder.

What I get from the preview is Clayton cant promise he won’t or didn’t already get intimate with the other two so Susie left on her own. She says, “I shouldn’t have to ask my future husband to not sleep with somebody else.” He gets pissed at that. He tells Gabby and Rachel at the rose ceremony that he was in love with all 3 of them including Susie and that Susie left because he was intimate with both of them (Gabby and Rachel).

goodgolly wrote:Here's a theory, albeit a far fetched one...
Fleiss wanted to throw off Steve as much as possible.
What if he got Clayton and the final three to act like s* went down and Clayton ended up with nobody- therefore the whole world buys it- as far as everyone knows, that's what really happened.
To me, this whole season has been shaping up for him to end up with Rachel. His whole demeanor is different with her than anyone else. In hometowns, when the other women told them about falling in love with him, he had a huge grin plastered on his face (looked like acting to me), but when Rachel said it, he melted right into her lips.

What if they act like he slept with other people, when he didn't - stage this whole parting of ways, only to have an on screen reconciliation where he proposes to Rachel, the one - but he had to "fight for her" for these past two months. Build it up to be a swoonworthy ending that RS would never be able to spoil. Like Fleiss' tweet said, "It's not over..."  

It's cacamamie, but not impossible.
Haven't been in this forum since Ben, JoJo, and Lauren days...awesome to be back!

Welcome back!!! Good theory! We’ll know in two weeks!!!