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Bachelorette 7 General Discussion - Thread #1

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Re: Bachelorette 7 General Discussion - Thread #1

Post by Guest on Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:01 am

@Bloomers wrote:
@mnmhughes wrote:Maybe JP and Bentley are a smokescreen? Bentley leaves in Episode 3. In Episode 4, Ben impresses Ashley at the orphanage and he gets the group rose, and then a date immediately in the next episode. By Episode 7, he has caught up with JP in the number of dates, so by HTD they are completely even.

It's still possible he could be F1, but they're really going to have to move that storyline along! Question: have any of the F1 of seasons past been completely ignored in Ep 1 and 2? Normally we see them with the lead, right?

The editing format has changed greatly since Brad's first season, but prior really to Andy's season, very typically the F1 was pretty much hidden until the last episode before the Hometown dates. That is when the F1 had his/her 1-1. At that point, the F1's storyline began to really develop. Prior to that, we saw interactions in each episode between the F1 and the lead, but it wasn't enough to say, "Bam! that is for sure the F1".
Usually, they played up all the drama, and there would be strong emphasis on the F2, so that people fell for that old trick.

What we have now is they are emphasizing all the drama, and we are hardly seeing any of the F4 at all. We do see a little of JP and only camera shots of Ben and hardly anything of Ames and Dino.

Just a side note about Ben... he did have the most PI's in episode 2. Just a small observation FWIW. :A-okay:

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Post by moonpie on Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:58 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Anybody else think it looks funny the way Ashley stands and holds the boutonieres at the RCs?

IDK, but I did read on Chris Harrison's Twitter that the boutonieres are attached by magnets. Huh. Who woulda thought?

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Post by anders on Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:53 am

Anybody else think it looks funny the way Ashley stands and holds the boutonieres at the RCs?

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Re: Bachelorette 7 General Discussion - Thread #1

Post by JBF on Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:38 pm

Thanks so much for the scans, cupcakes.

The earlier US magazines were often pretty accurate with their top threes. Meredith’s had Ian, Matt and Chad included, I think. (Maybe somebody reading this post has an issue stuffed somewhere and can prove me wrong.) What they often did was post some comments with the final one to make you question their standing… like Ian’s commitment issues.

In more recent years, they have purposely gotten foggier.

The producers did a great job keeping JP buried as long as possible, but didn’t really hide Ben and Constantine from the hometown leaks. JP was officially unveiled as a contestant the week of May 6. In a group photo Reality Steve posted May 2 (when Ames and Ryan were confirmed), he thought JP was Lucas, since early photos available of Lucas showed him with less hair. Ben F. had already been identified many weeks earlier, on March 23. Ben C. was the first confirmed bachelor on the show March 14. Right away that suggests that the producers were less concerned keeping their Bens hidden… for whatever reason. Maybe having two first names was enough to hide a final two member?

Since JP was actually the twenty-fifth bachelor to arrive to greet Ashley, but was re-edited to appear earlier (Constantine was last on the re-edited premiere show… the oopsie was revealed in a TV Grapevine Preview), it is obvious they were trying to make him less noticeable. Thanks to Coastal’s hard work on another thread, we know the limo or mansion entrance order of the past season’s bachelors... But obviously don’t know if any were re-edited like JP. These positions are always interesting. Arriving at the tail-end were two or three past final ones (depending on how you view it): Meredith’s Ian, Jerry Ferris (even though Jen dumped him at the end) and Jillian’s Ed (as part of a last moment group of five with Reid also included). Also at this all-important Last Man Out position were Trista’s final 2 Charlie and Deanna’s final 3-come-back-kid Jeremy. Ali’s season was an exception (Jason).

Alas… there are plenty of signs pointing to Ben being the next Bachelor (if he isn't the surprise F1), with Ryan being a potential replacement if Ben backs out. I don’t think Ryan is their first choice, but they made sure he looked presentable enough so far just in case… like Jake. In an interesting way, Ben does vaguely… in a few personality traits at least… pass for a “Reid-type” and, perhaps, they are kicking themselves for not succeeding two years ago and winding up with both Jake and Brad. He also seems to be one of the candidates most ready for commitment.

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Post by Admin on Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:27 pm

Thanks for those CC. It seems like the F2 is almost always mentioned in the 5 to watch which was my only pause as to why Ben F. wasn't the F1. Other than that, I think he could still have a chance. I want to see more of them together tomorrow night. I'm not holding my breath though. no no

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Post by cupcakes on Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:25 pm

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is this correct then:
Matt--4 to watch including Shane (F1) and Amanda (F3?)
Jason--5 to watch including Jillian (F2?) and Naomi (F4)
Jillian--5 to watch, including Kypton as F2
Jake--5 to watch including Gia (F2?) and Ali (F4?) (can't remember for sure)
Ali--5 to watch including Chris as F2 and Frank as F4
Brad--5 to watch including Chantal (F2) and Shawntel (F4)
Ashley--only 4 to watch including Ben F. (pos. F2) and Ryan (F???)

Why only 4 to watch this time (or was one on another page that wasn't posted)?
Are we sure Ryan isn't our F4? It would fit the pattern.

RE bolded,Frank was F3. Kirk was F4.

Jillian was F3.
Gia was F3.

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Post by beader on Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:23 pm

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RE bolded,Frank was F3. Kirk was F4.

Right! I may be off on others also--feel free to correct.

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Post by Starshine_16 on Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:19 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Is this correct then:
Matt--4 to watch including Shane (F1) and Amanda (F3?)
Jason--5 to watch including Jillian (F2?) and Naomi (F4)
Jillian--5 to watch, including Kypton as F2
Jake--5 to watch including Gia (F2?) and Ali (F4?) (can't remember for sure)
Ali--5 to watch including Chris as F2 and Frank as F4
Brad--5 to watch including Chantal (F2) and Shawntel (F4)
Ashley--only 4 to watch including Ben F. (pos. F2) and Ryan (F???)

Why only 4 to watch this time (or was one on another page that wasn't posted)?
Are we sure Ryan isn't our F4? It would fit the pattern.



RE bolded,Frank was F3. Kirk was F4.

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Post by beader on Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:11 pm

Is this correct then:
Matt--4 to watch including Shane (F1) and Amanda (F3?)
Jason--5 to watch including Jillian (F3) and Naomi (F4)
Jillian--5 to watch, including Kypton as F2
Jake--5 to watch including Gia (F3) and Ali (F4?) (can't remember for sure)
Ali--5 to watch including Chris as F2 and Frank as F3
Brad--5 to watch including Chantal (F2) and Shawntel (F4)
Ashley--only 4 to watch including Ben F. (pos. F2) and Ryan (F???)

Why only 4 to watch this time (or was one on another page that wasn't posted)?
Are we sure Ryan isn't our F4? It would fit the pattern.

(I've made corrections as suggested in following posts. Thanks!)


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Post by nd4reality on Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:08 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:And what's even stranger that according to RS blog, in Epi 6 Ryan gets the rose on the group date (boat races). Then Epi 7, has the 1 on 1 is is sent home before the RC. It's all weird considering he's gotten the FIR and a couple group date roses. So to the unspoiled viewer it will be a big surprise when he's let go on the 1 on 1 date and a huge shock when he returns before the FRC. That's the only thing I'm getting from his edit at this point. :greenman:

I think we will be getting some pretty steamy kisses on episode 3 as well :gotcha:. But on a serious note, it is very weird about the late 1 on 1 and the (RS spoiled) exit. What possible reason could she send him off on prior to the RC ? It was not a rose or go date.
Now Brad did the same with Brit but his reasons were that there was in his words...nothing with Brit. Ashley has not only gushed about Ryan in episode 1 but also in all her interviews and blogs. If I had to guess just by the limo exits - he would be the one. Plus from the Scs of episode 3, they are very comfortable in the physical department.
Yup very weird and we have to keep questioning and digging out this season.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:01 pm

And what's even stranger that according to RS blog, in Epi 6 Ryan gets the rose on the group date (boat races). Then Epi 7, has the 1 on 1 is is sent home before the RC. It's all weird considering he's gotten the FIR and a couple group date roses. So to the unspoiled viewer it will be a big surprise when he's let go on the 1 on 1 date and a huge shock when he returns before the FRC. That's the only thing I'm getting from his edit at this point, assuming RS is right and Ryan is not F4 :greenman:

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Post by nd4reality on Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:54 pm

We also need to keep in mind the whole theme of the season. A season of "no regrets". She went into discussions with CH on her 1st night about that being her aim and she continues to talk about this theme in her promo rounds.
So obviously that is a storyline that has been developed for her season and therefore the characters will all play their parts in this.

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