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Working eliminations chart and discussions

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by Beeleever on Wed May 18, 2011 10:08 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Does anyone know when the following went home?
Jeff
JP
Lucus
Matt
Nick

What do you think about a Constantine, Ben F, Ryan P and Ames for the F4?

Jelle, I've been thinking that we may be missing the boat with Ames...unfortunately, I don't have time to go back and look if we have "proof" of when Ames went home.

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by jelle on Wed May 18, 2011 10:02 pm

Does anyone know when the following went home?
Jeff
JP
Lucus
Matt
Nick

What do you think about a Constantine, Ben F, Ryan P and Ames for the F4?

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by Guest on Wed May 18, 2011 4:24 pm

@jelle wrote:Where did the F18 come from? Do we have confirmation that all those are correct? or have we eliminated someone by mistake?

no idea where the f18 came from. can't answer the rest

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by jelle on Wed May 18, 2011 4:21 pm

Where did the F18 come from? Do we have confirmation that all those are correct? or have we eliminated someone by mistake?

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by Guest on Wed May 18, 2011 4:13 pm

@jelle wrote:On the working chart, this is the F12:

Constantin **
Micky **
West
Ryan P **
Ames **
William
Blake **
Ben C
Ben F **
Stephen
Matt
Rob

You have confirmed that the six guys with ** make it to HongKong.

Coastal posted that you all have information that West, William, Ben C, Stephen, and Rob did not make it to HongKong. That leaves only Matt (of the F12) to possibly make it to Hong Kong and we are one short to make 8.

Either someone in the F12 list is wrong and someone else makes it to Thailand or one of the guys that we thought left before HongKong didnt leave. I suspect the first - that someone in the F12 list is wrong - maybe two if we have poof that Matt is eliminated.

Make sense? duh

there is more than 1 mistake in this final 12. sorry

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by jelle on Wed May 18, 2011 4:08 pm

On the working chart, this is the F12:

Constantin **
Micky **
West
Ryan P **
Ames **
William
Blake **
Ben C
Ben F **
Stephen
Matt
Rob

You have confirmed that the six guys with ** make it to HongKong.

Coastal posted that you all have information that West, William, Ben C, Stephen, and Rob did not make it to HongKong. That leaves only Matt (of the F12) to possibly make it to Hong Kong and we are one short to make 8.

Either someone in the F12 list is wrong and someone else makes it to Thailand or one of the guys that we thought left before HongKong didnt leave. I suspect the first - that someone in the F12 list is wrong - maybe two if we have poof that Matt is eliminated.

Make sense? duh

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by anders on Wed May 18, 2011 9:58 am

babymama wrote:
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Babymama, as Coastal said she was making assumptions and said a lot was probably questionable. BUT she did the ground work now so as we get info we can tweek and correct as we go. It is called a starting point, if you don't have anything to add to the charts, besides pointing out how wrong they are(since you have RS cliffnotes) let us enjoy ourselves without getting bashed by you for speculating until we get more info, that is what this board is about taking the info we have and trying to figure things out until we get more info. yes

but once RS releases the spoilers, there won't be anything to "tweek" or "correct" as you go. you'd basically just fill in everything that he said and that's the new chart. i'm confused on what a running chart would look like once his spoilers are up, that's all

no disrespect but this is a sleuthing board - that is what these folks are doing. These folks are doing the same thing they've been doing for seasons - getting information the old fashioned way, not waiting for RS to spoil the season. And since RS didnt' start spoiling seasons until Jason this was the only method to find out who left when and who F1-4 were.

Just because RS can spoil it all in 1 blog that takes less than an hour to read doesn’t mean the work done here is for naught. If anything, seasons have been spilled by ‘FORTers’ long before RS started and even after he did. RS may confirm or alter details, but my money is on these folks finding out who F2 and possibly F1 is before RS even spills a thing.

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by Love_Me on Wed May 18, 2011 5:35 am

how do we know they din't make it to the F6?


We know William was home on or before 4/11 which was before the F6. RS told us on 4/7 that Ben C was home already so he too would not be in the F6 either. That is my guess.

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by nikkij_26 on Wed May 18, 2011 1:17 am

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Ok so it's being said that the F6 we currently have is wrong.

Current F6:

Ben F-HTD per RS
Constantine (Dino)- HTD per RS
Ryan P-Hong Kong pic
Ames-Hong Kong Pic
Mickey-Hong pic
Blake- Hong Kong pic

So, if RS is supposed to be all knowing and correct, then Ben F and Constantine can't be wrong because they came from him. The other 4 came from pics of them in Hong Kong. So, we either have to look back at the Hong Kong pics and see if one of those identified is actually a different guy or the pics we think are in Hong Kong are actually in a different location.

Also we have William and Ben C as being a part of the F8 in Hong Kong. However, I don't see any indication on the chart of how it was verified that William and Ben C were a part of the F8. Was it merely a process of elimination based on who else had been sent home by that time? And if so how reliable was the info? If it wasn't reliable we could have two different guys in the F8. And then those 2 different guys or William and Ben C make it past Hong Kong into the F6 over Ryan P , Ames, Mickey, or Blake. Therefore also changing up 1 or 2 of the F4.

So, how do we know for sure that Ben C & William made it to the F8 in Hong Kong? And how do we know they din't make it to the F6?


reposting this here.

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by Guest on Tue May 17, 2011 8:35 pm

@Peppermom wrote:JMHO. The fun of this and other sleuthing sites is the opportunity to suggest ideas, make assumptions, consider, reconsider, throw everything out and start all over. It stretches the imagination, gets the analytical juices flowing and makes me laugh. I read ideas that never crossed my mind and I learn. I learn about the posters and the way they think. And I laugh. This isn't about perfection or, really, about the final result. That is the icing on the cake. The cake is the process, and I love to bake. I love to see the efforts and yes, the obsession, that some posters have and I cheer them on. I love that people will put themselves out there without caring if they are "wrong" or "wacky". We just like to play along. Is getting to the F1 the ultimate goal? Of Course, but it is so much more fun to be part of the process of trying to figure it out than it is to just read what someone else was told from inside sources. I love the info we get from RS and anyone else, but it doesn't compare to the awesome work done on this site and other sites like it (not as good as ours of course). I just like it here and wouldn't trade my BBF's here for a place at the table of the FRC. Great job to all the wonderful posters who put themselves out there and spend so many hours sifting through millions of pictures, words and threads to get us info. My hat is off to you and I hope you don't ever let naysayers detract from the fun we have "baking" our B'ette season.

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Wonderful Post Peppermom..............Thanks so much!! :loveyou:

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by Peppermom on Tue May 17, 2011 8:26 pm

JMHO. The fun of this and other sleuthing sites is the opportunity to suggest ideas, make assumptions, consider, reconsider, throw everything out and start all over. It stretches the imagination, gets the analytical juices flowing and makes me laugh. I read ideas that never crossed my mind and I learn. I learn about the posters and the way they think. And I laugh. This isn't about perfection or, really, about the final result. That is the icing on the cake. The cake is the process, and I love to bake. I love to see the efforts and yes, the obsession, that some posters have and I cheer them on. I love that people will put themselves out there without caring if they are "wrong" or "wacky". We just like to play along. Is getting to the F1 the ultimate goal? Of Course, but it is so much more fun to be part of the process of trying to figure it out than it is to just read what someone else was told from inside sources. I love the info we get from RS and anyone else, but it doesn't compare to the awesome work done on this site and other sites like it (not as good as ours of course). I just like it here and wouldn't trade my BBF's here for a place at the table of the FRC. Great job to all the wonderful posters who put themselves out there and spend so many hours sifting through millions of pictures, words and threads to get us info. My hat is off to you and I hope you don't ever let naysayers detract from the fun we have "baking" our B'ette season.

sweet kiss

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Re: Working eliminations chart and discussions

Post by Admin on Tue May 17, 2011 7:46 pm

Coastal wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Thanks for all the work Coastal. I think it is always great to have a concrete starting point. Great sleuthing LoveMe and all!

Makes no sense to me to be critical without offering some solutions or corrections, especially when the issue is that one list is different than RS list. duh

You all have done a mavelous job with this site. Kudos to those of you who work so hard at running the site, sleuthing clues, and making the board fun. yes

Somehow this escaped me in the fray................my bad on that!! Thanks so much for the comments jelle 8)

I missed it too! Thanks Jelle. We're really glad that you're here. :hug:

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