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Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - Fan Forum - Sleuthing Spoilers

KB_Mom wrote:I like the way you think @notarose. And am impressed by your knowledge of the symbolism (#13, lavender). Can you please apply to be a writer for the show?

I'm too fluffy for this show

Vanessa Grimaldi - Bachelor 21 - Fan Forum - Sleuthing Spoilers

I like the way you think @notarose.

And am impressed by your knowledge of the symbolism (#13, lavender). Can you please apply to be a writer for the show?

Evan Bass - Carly Waddell- Isabella - Charlie - SM - Updates - Fan Forum

@GuardianAngel yes! #11 for sure #13 does too! The older one not so much, maybe he looks like his mom? Fun photo anyway. Cute of her to try and get all into the Titans and hang with the boys.

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Media SM Vids - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #2

Diana wrote:could the girl sitting across from where Nick is standing be Vanessa?

yes considering Vanessa and the other shorter blond appear to be relatively close in height when standing, it stands to reason that when sitting, they could be that too.

Stacia620 wrote:What about Kristina S.? Is she still there or has she been eliminated?

Kristina hasn't had any SM activity so I am presuming that she's still there. Not to mention that there should be 9 women there still in epi 6 according to past season stats. So, I think these could be part of the 9. Remember though, the blond that is relatively short in stature isn't named yet so that could bump someone out of this or they actually showed up there with 10??

Danielle L: Made it to Ep5 (NOLA group photos)
Danielle M: Catamaran GD in epi 6
Elizabeth W: Unknown/NOLA group pic
Jasmine G: Catamaran GD in epi 6
Kristina: Made it to Ep4 (Waukesha group photo) - possibly in Ep5 NOLA group photos
Rachel: Catamaran GD in epi 6
Raven: Catamaran GD in epi 6
Vanessa: Made it to Ep3 (Zero Gravity 1-on-1)(NOLA group pic)
Whitney: Made it to Ep5 (NOLA group photos)

beader wrote:Sorry, I don't know how to quote from one thread to the next. In the NOLA picture --the 2nd one-- I think the person shown as #13 is wearing a backpack, so she may be staff. Anyone else see this?

In that same picture, the girls with the headband looks to be wearing a big hoop earring. But I don't see a headband in the first picture from NOLA.

You could very well be right about #13. I see 12 ladies in one pic and 13 in another so the 13th could very easily be staff.

BTW: I am entertaining the thought that maybe 30 started this since season 15, there seems to be more starting the seasons than just the 25 that used to. BTW, we have 25 accounted for right now.

Bachelor 21 - Nick Viall - Media SM Vids - Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #2

Sorry, I don't know how to quote from one thread to the next. In the NOLA picture --the 2nd one-- I think the person shown as #13 is wearing a backpack, so she may be staff. Anyone else see this?

In that same picture, the girls with the headband looks to be wearing a big hoop earring. But I don't see a headband in the first picture from NOLA.

THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - NO SPOILERS - SCaps - SLEUTHING DISCUSSION

All Scs by Litta123

Part 3 of my updated and cleaned up FRC Scs.....

#9 Jojo Face with hair in mouth, teary eyed. Blue shoulder only, indentation pattern on shoulder and top of sleeve, seam about 3/4 of the way on back of sleeve, no male hands visible.
Mouth moving: "I fell in love with you"
---solid grey background
***I think the lighter solid blue in background is sky behind the wooden plank FRC set up.***
MY OPINION: JORDAN

#10 Jojo NO face, close up of waste line only. Bottom of man's blue sleeve with buttons, male hands are visible. She holds man's hands and kind of bounces them.
VO: "and I"m still in love with you"
***I think lighter solid blue is sky behind wooden plank FRC set up***

MY OPINION: ROBBY

#11 Jojo Face. Blue shoulder only, no hands, seam about 3/4 way back on sleeve
Mouth moving: "but what you did to me"
***I think lighter solid blue is sky behind wooden plank FRC set up***
MY OPINION: JORDAN (as a continuation of her sentence)

Original cap

#12 Jojo NO Face, close up of waste line. Blue sleeve only, buttons, male hands visible.
VO: "is not right"
****I think lighter blue solid background is sky behind wooden plank FRC set up. I still don't know what that green patch is in background***
MY OPINION: ROBBY

Original cap

#13 Jojo No face, runs her hand up the same (as #12) man's blue sleeve, can see crease down the center of back of sleeve, but no seam.
VO: "but I want you to know"
***I think lighter blue solid background is sky behind wooden plank FRC set up***
MY OPINION: ROBBY

Original cap

Chase McNary - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #2

[mention]Longhornfan[/mention] wrote:
[mention]MiniDiva[/mention] wrote:Chase would be a good contender for the next lead and the ladies would swoon over him, IMO. He has a very active and outdoor lifestyle and someone that shares those interests would be good for him IMO.

How much do we know about his previous GF's, has he been involved with several relationships before the show?

I don't even remember them showing a conversation between him and JoJo about his past relationships, so I assume that if there was one, then it didn't reveal much.

So, here are my thoughts on Chase and JoJo's relationship. From his {#}13{/#} comment above, he was slow to open up, which I attributed to the fact that he came into this "process" not knowing what to expect. So he therefore "fell behind" (even though JoJo said that he wasn't behind the other guys). And, he didn't get as much 1-on-1 time with her in order for him to be able to catch up. The filming schedule for the Bachelorette is such a quick turnaround that time is of the essence in order to move a relationship forward.

However, I do believe that JoJo really cared a lot about Chase, and she made sure to let him know that. And she in turn made the experience for him a very positive one. I believe that Chase will take what he has learned from this experience into the next relationship that he has with some lucky girl. He seems to be in a very good place right now - very content with where he is in his life.

I agree with the bolded. I like their dynamic together so much

. They're my fav together even though I get why they might not be a real life fit. Jojo has a softness around him IMO and they have very real life sounding conversations that are so genuine. Plus, his hugs and kisses and looks - sigh. I think Jojo knew he wasn't going to be "the one" so kept him a bit at arms length and I think he felt and did the same. I think he would have been more open if he didn't see a couple obvious other front runners. I like that he took it at a real life pace and that usually never works out for people on this show, but it's makes for some of my fav contestants and moments when people can do that despite the cameras and craziness.

Side note: I think TPTB kind of screwed up by only giving on second full one on one date to Jordan. Luke got a half date, Chase a bit of alone time on the 2 on 1, Robby a bit of alone time after the 3 on 1. Terrible amount of time for the top 4 to bond with Jojo before HTDs and for the viewers to get to know them with Jojo.

Fail from me on that storyline choice.

Chase McNary - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #2

MiniDiva wrote:Chase would be a good contender for the next lead and the ladies would swoon over him, IMO. He has a very active and outdoor lifestyle and someone that shares those interests would be good for him IMO.

How much do we know about his previous GF's, has he been involved with several relationships before the show?

I don't even remember them showing a conversation between him and JoJo about his past relationships, so I assume that if there was one, then it didn't reveal much.

So, here are my thoughts on Chase and JoJo's relationship. From his #13 comment above, he was slow to open up, which I attributed to the fact that he came into this "process" not knowing what to expect. So he therefore "fell behind" (even though JoJo said that he wasn't behind the other guys). And, he didn't get as much 1-on-1 time with her in order for him to be able to catch up. The filming schedule for the Bachelorette is such a quick turnaround that time is of the essence in order to move a relationship forward.

However, I do believe that JoJo really cared a lot about Chase, and she made sure to let him know that. And she in turn made the experience for him a very positive one. I believe that Chase will take what he has learned from this experience into the next relationship that he has with some lucky girl. He seems to be in a very good place right now - very content with where he is in his life.

Chase McNary - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #2

mysthelma wrote:So earlier today he did a Q and A on the bachelor_nation IG. Kinda hard to weed through the comments, but here are some of his answers...

1. How he got on the show? He joined a friend for beer and ended up going for the casting call one afternoon, no idea what he was gettin himself into
2. His family were all supportive during htd, but he is freaking out about next week there should be some surprises
3. Hockey is his favorite sports. Wanted to be a pro hockey player. He played in hockey tournaments and summer camps in Canada through high school.
4. Lived in CA for 2 years but made him realize CO is the place he wants to be
5. Medical sales is challenging yet rewarding, but he can't say he would do that forever
6. Admits he naturally a calm person
7. Someone asked how horrible Chad was, says Chad pretty much stayed away from him
8. Jojo as witty, smart, emotionally strong and gorgeous
9. Said they all had their fair share of alcohol on the 3:1, blame it on the rain
10 Wants 2 kids, his sister has another kid on the way and he is estatic about it
11. Used to annoy his sister with his beat boxing and told her it paid off after the episode aired
12. Took a few days to get use to the cameras
13. This experience has taught him how to break down the walls sooner with relationships that matter.
14. No regrets
http://instagram.com/bachelor_nation

Oh thank you so much @mysthelma I wanted to know what he had to say as he comes across as an honest guy but I really did not want to weed through the comments!!

When it was clear to me that Jordan and Jo were the best pairing, imo, and likely her choice, I hoped exactly #13 for him! Aside from travel, new friends, and new doors opening, I'm happy he received another gift from going on this show.

THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - NO SPOILERS - SCaps - SLEUTHING DISCUSSION

Litta123 wrote:Illustrated with SCs...splitting Mia's Part 3 becuase it's looking like it will be too long with all the added caps.

MiaHawk wrote:SC Part 3...

#9 Jojo Face with hair in mouth, teary eyed. Blue shoulder only, indentation pattern on shoulder and top of sleeve, seam about 3/4 of the way on back of sleeve, no male hands visible.
Mouth moving: "I fell in love with you"
---solid grey background
(JORDAN)

#10 Jojo NO face, close up of waste line only. Bottom of man's blue sleeve with buttons, male hands are visible. She holds man's hands and kind of bounces them.
VO: "and I"m still in love with you"
---waste line on dress appears pleated all the way around
---hairy male hand (thought to be Robby)
---finger shape somewhat visible (thought to be Robby)
---red dot visible on outside of Jojo's Right wrist
---rose table visible in background appears to have no fabric doo-dad
---rose has a green rose hip pointing upward
(ROBBY)

Original with JoJo/thumb in focus, then lightened.

Original with table rose in focus, then lightened.

#11 Jojo Face. Blue shoulder only, no hands, seam about 3/4 way back on sleeve
Mouth moving: "but what you did to me"
(JORDAN)

Original cap, then lightened.

#12 Jojo NO Face, close up of waste line. Blue sleeve only, buttons, male hands visible.
VO: "is not right"
(ROBBY)

Original cap, then lightened. What's the green stuff?

#13 Jojo No face, runs her hand up the same (as #12) man's blue sleeve, can see crease down the center of back of sleeve, but no seam.
VO: "but I want you to know"
---waste line appears pleated all the way around
---red mark on outside of Jojo's Right wrist
---brown mark on Jojo's Right arm above the elbow
---mark on inside of Jojo's Left wrist
( ROBBY)

Original cap, then lightened; followed by a continuing cap, then lightened..

Less pleats on butt side?

THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - NO SPOILERS - SCaps - SLEUTHING DISCUSSION

Illustrated with SCs...splitting Mia's Part 3 becuase it's looking like it will be too long with all the added caps.

MiaHawk wrote:SC Part 3...

#9 Jojo Face with hair in mouth, teary eyed. Blue shoulder only, indentation pattern on shoulder and top of sleeve, seam about 3/4 of the way on back of sleeve, no male hands visible.
Mouth moving: "I fell in love with you"
---solid grey background
(I think this is Jordan at 1st FRC in Thailand, possibly filmed on the grassy area near palm trees and statues)

#10 Jojo NO face, close up of waste line only. Bottom of man's blue sleeve with buttons, male hands are visible. She holds man's hands and kind of bounces them.
VO: "and I"m still in love with you"
---waste line on dress appears pleated all the way around
---hairy male hand (thought to be Robby)
---finger shape somewhat visible (thought to be Robby)
---red dot visible on outside of Jojo's Right wrist
---rose table visible in background appears to have no fabric doo-dad
---rose has a green rose hip pointing upward
(I'm think this is Robby at 1st FRC in Thailand based on hairy hands and finger shape and because the rose table has no visible doo-dad)

Original with JoJo/thumb in focus, then lightened.

Original with table rose in focus, then lightened.

#11 Jojo Face. Blue shoulder only, no hands, seam about 3/4 way back on sleeve
Mouth moving: "but what you did to me"
(I think this is Jordan at 1st FRC at Thailand)

Original cap, then lightened.

#12 Jojo NO Face, close up of waste line. Blue sleeve only, buttons, no male hands visible.
VO: "is not right"
( I think this is Robby at 1st FRC at Thailand)

Original cap, then lightened. What's the green stuff?

#13 Jojo No face, runs her hand up the same (as #12) man's blue sleeve, can see crease down the center of back of sleeve, but no seam.
VO: "but I want you to know"
---waste line appears pleated all the way around
---red mark on outside of Jojo's Right wrist
---brown mark on Jojo's Right arm above the elbow
---mark on inside of Jojo's Left wrist
( I think based on the physical marks on Jojo's arms that this goes with #10, and I think #10 is Robby based on the visible hands. Guessing 1st FRC in Thailand)

Original cap, then lightened; followed by a continuing cap, then lightened..

Less pleats on butt side?