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Bachelorette New Zealand - Season 1 - Dr Lesina Nakhid-Schuster - Lily McManus - Episodes - *Sleuthing Spoilers *

You ladies are way ahead of me, and my watching schedule ( been distracted with some real life issues like a wind that took out my backyard gate) BUT am reminded that I do NOT like Marc much, and in the last episode I just finished, #5, he is so full of himself and all he can say or think about is how the guys are going to react to him having a) kissed her first and b) having a rose. And I also did not like his reactions about his daughter, it sounded so rehearsed, and detached, he doesn’t even mention how he misses her or how she makes his life better, just ‘if she’s happy, I’m happy’. He’s a showman and unfortunately Dr.Lesina is falling for his shtick and can’t see how shallow he is.
I’m almost dreading watching these few guys still on ....hopefully Aaron will be refreshing to see.
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by Astrobach
on Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:25 am
 
Search in: Bachelorette New Zealand - Season 1 - Dr Lesina Nakhid-Schuster - Lily McManus - Sleuthing - Archived
Topic: Bachelorette New Zealand - Season 1 - Dr Lesina Nakhid-Schuster - Lily McManus - Episodes - *Sleuthing Spoilers *
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Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Media SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Thanks bluwavz for posting this in the Filming Schedule. Bringing over to make a couple of comments. I didn't read the whole thing but I didn't realize Chase was asked about the date. "The love is on their side" LOL Great interview.

Also, RS says there were no pics of Hannah Ann's hometown date in Tennessee. I just wanted to point out @heart sleuthed the location. yes

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5414-bachelor-24-peter-weber-sleuthed-information-sleuthing-spoilers-no-discussion

bluwavz wrote:Credit to Reality Steve for the rest of the episode spoilers:

And that’s where the episode ends, so they’ll pick up from this point next week. Obviously we know they reach some sort of conclusion where Hannah doesn’t join the show, but the nature of the conversation and how intense and in their feelings both are is the reason Peter ends up cancelling the “sex story” part of the date, tells the women he wasn’t in the right head space after talking to Hannah, and he’d see them later tonight. But we don’t get that til next week since the episode ends with Peter and Hannah still talking.

Women who didn’t get dates this episode: Kiarra Norman, Sarah Coffin, and Lexi Buchanan.

At the cocktail party, “Champagne-gate” happens. Kelsey brought a 2 year old bottle of champagne especially to open up with Peter. However, production gave it to Hannah Ann to open up with him without telling her the bottle had any significance. Kelsey walks out and sees them opening it and loses it on Hannah Ann, going off on her. Ultimately it was patched up since these two are fine on social media post-show. But at the moment, I hear it was a pretty big blow up. Of course Hannah Ann can’t say on television, “Producers gave me this bottle to open up and never told me it was yours” because, you know, then people might think the show isn’t real or something. So I guess she just left it at, “I didn’t know it was yours,” and the audience now has back-to-back episodes of Hannah Ann finding herself as part of some drama.

Wed 9/25 – Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Lauren Jones, Payton Moran, and Courtney Perry.

Rose Ceremony #3: Los Angeles, CA (19 to 15)

Thu 9/26 – Group Date: 8 women at Academy LA. Fashion show: Alexa Caves, Hannah Ann Sluss, Lexi Buchanan, Kelsey Weier, Mykenna Dorn, Deandra Kanu, Natasha Parker, and Victoria Fuller. Here were pics from the group date that tabloids took. Victoria F. got the group date rose.

Fri 9/27 – 1-on-1: Victoria Paul. The Canyon Club. Line dancing, rode mechanical bull. Kissed a lot. Peter rode the mechanical bull and got booted off and hurt his back. JustJared.com posted pics from date. Victoria got the rose.

Sat 9/28 – Group Date: 8 women: Tammy Ly, Alayah Benavidez, Sarah Coffin, Kelley Flanagan, Sydney Hightower, Shiann Lewis, Kiarra Norman, and Savannah Mullins. Chris Harrison and Fred Willard were the judges. Demi’s Extreme Pillow Fight at Cowboy Palace Saloon.

The finals were very aggressive between Alayah and Sydney. Apparently they “fought” each other 3 or 4 different times that day, and everyone else only fought once. So this has producer manipulation written all over it. But the finals got aggressive with hair pulling and swinging of the pillows.

At the after party later that night, Sydney told Peter she felt there was someone in the house that was different in front of the cameras than with the rest of the women, but didn’t name anyone by name. She was talking about Alayah though.

The cocktail party is cancelled that night in favor of a pool party, and this is where the Sydney/Victoria P. versus Alayah battle begins. Essentially the whole pool party becomes about Peter asking around to a lot of the women what they think of Alayah. And not a lot of nice things are said. They think she’s there for fame and IG followers and what not. What hasn’t been mentioned up to this point I don’t believe, is Alayah and Victoria P.’s friendship pre-show. Social media pictures bear it out that they were fine with each other heading into the show. At the pool party date, Victoria P. tells Peter she thinks Alayah is a liar and manipulative. Kinda weird how the show hasn’t mentioned yet that Alayah and Victoria P. competed together in Miss USA last year. Or made any mention of friendship. I’m thinking we’re seeing why after all this goes down.

Women who didn’t get dates this episode: Madison Prewett & Jasmine Nguyen.

Sun 9/29 – Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Alayah Benavidez, Jasmine Nguyen, Sarah Coffin, and Alexa Caves.

Rose Ceremony #4: Cleveland, OH (15 to 12)

Wed 10/2 – 1-on-1: Victoria Fuller. Victoria got the rose.

Victoria Fuller had a past with Chase Rice. They were dating/hooking up prior to coming on the show. Heard she went to one of his concerts to see him a week before filming. Clearly she didn’t know who her musical performer was going to be until she walked up on the date, then you see the total embarrassment on her face. In an article I posted yesterday, ABC executive Robert Mills said this when speaking pre-season about Victoria Fuller, and in particular, this date we’ll see this season:

I know that you don’t like to label any particular contestant as a “villain,” but the viewers do. So who do you think that will be? Is it Victoria F.?

Look, I could see potentially that happening. I think there are a few women who could get the label. But, I think the way the show is produced has evolved and it’s not like, “Oh that’s the villain” anymore. There are more shades of gray and we try to explain to you more why this person is that way. At the very least, you might have people who label someone as a villain, but you’ll have more sympathy than before.

There have been a lot of rumors about Victoria, including that she dated a musician who is performing at one of her dates with Peter. Viewers are wondering if the show is over-produced. You do background checks, so obviously you know who these contestants have dated in the past. What’s your response?

Look, I can’t say that certain things just happen completely by accident. You’d have to be an idiot to buy that some of these things are just happenstance. So yes, there is a girl and there is an entertainer on one of the dates and she happened to run into him. We don’t go in saying that we’re going to reverse engineer this, but when you find out about these things, you have to take advantage of it because it is great TV. So, I wouldn’t say over-produced, but I would say very well-produced. When you watch it, you will say, “Wow, that was great TV.”

Also after that date took place, Chase Rice was asked about it at the CMA’s and had this to say:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B41MeZ5H_13/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading

Thurs 10/3 – Group Date: Flag football game at Browns Stadium with 13 women called the “Bachelor Bowl”: Hannah Ann, Lexi, Mykenna, Deandra, Natasha, Victoria P., Tammy, Kelley, Sydney, Shiann, Kiarra, Savannah, and Madison. Baker Mayfield and Myles Garrett were supposed to be the coaches, but ended up not being the case. So it was former Browns Josh Cribbs and like the leader of the Dawg Pound.

The group date after party is where madness happens. Alayah returns to the show and shows up during this after party. She felt that she was sent home at the last rose ceremony due to wrong information Peter was hearing from others. She tells him she’s there for him, and he ends up giving her the group date rose. Other women are not happy Peter gave Alayah the rose. Because Alayah was home for a day, she clearly read online what was going on with the Victoria date at the Chase Rice concert and her past. At some point, she mentions to the women there that she heard Victoria F. and Chase Rice had a past. None of them women knew this. I guess Victoria F. never told them after her date. They run it back to Victoria F., and she goes off on Alayah in an expletive filled tirade that it wasn’t her business, and it was disrespectful, etc. Apparently this did not sit well with Victoria F. and Alayah was basically in a stay of execution at the house at that point from what I was told. Not many thought she should’ve been able to come back, and then she got the group date rose on top of that.

Fri 10/4 – 1-on-1: Kelsey Weier. Cleveland Area Soap Box Derby race in downtown Cleveland. Tons of pics and videos from that event. Kelsey got the rose.

At the cocktail party before the rose ceremony, Alayah and Peter talked and I have no idea if they’re gonna make it seem like Alayah wanted to leave after she felt she was attacked in the house, or, if they’re gonna make it seem like Peter changed his mind and told her she should leave because him giving her the group date rose when she came back caused too many problems. All I heard at the time was “Alayah left on her own,” but I have a feeling it won’t be shown that way. Peter even brings Victoria P. and Alayah into a room together to discuss their beef but I’m not sure what gets said. The takeaway from everything I’d heard at the time (remember this was back in early October), was that Alayah felt no one in the house was on her side, and after the Victoria F. incident, she just wanted out. So safe to say Alayah wasn’t part of the “cats.”

Sat 10/5 – Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Kiarra Norman, Savannah Mullins, and Deandra Kanu. Alayah Benavidez returned during the group date after party, got a rose, but then left the show before the rose ceremony started.

As you can see, not to ton of info when they went overseas. No pictures or videos ever got out, and once I had confirmed the final four, I just never went back and did much digging. The dates that I do have posted and all the eliminations in each country are correct. Just don’t have many details and none of the group dates. I will fill these in as the season goes along.

Rose Ceremony #5: Costa Rica (12 to 10)

1-on-1: Sydney Hightower. Sydney gets the rose.

Group Date:

1-on-1: Kelley Flanagan. Kelley gets the rose.

Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Shiann Lewis and Lexi Buchanan.

>Rose Ceremony #6: Santiago, Chile (10 to 6)

1-on-1: Hannah Ann Sluss. Hannah Ann gets the rose.

Group Date:

1-on-1: Victoria Fuller. Victoria gets the rose.

At some point during this episode, Victoria Paul and Peter talk and was told they were just on different pages. They mutually agreed to part ways, but again, I don’t know how the show will choose to show it. Victoria did have to crown her Miss Louisiana successor the day after she left, so I’m sure that played some role in her wanting to leave. That timing is too convenient.

>Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Sydney Hightower, Mykenna Dunn, and Tammy Ly. Victoria Paul left on her own earlier in the episode.

Rose Ceremony #7: Lima, Peru (6 to 4)

1-on-1: Natasha Parker. Got sent home on her date.

1-on-1: Kelsey Weier.

Group Date: Not sure if 3 or 4 were on this group date. If it was 3, there was another 1-on-1 this episode. If there were 4, then these were the 3 dates this episode and this group date would’ve had Hannah Ann, Madison, Kelley, and Victoria Fuller on it.

The last few seasons, we know the episode before hometowns, that roses are given out on the dates and there hasn’t been a rose ceremony. What we do know is Natasha and Kelley were eliminated this episode, and Natasha I know had a 1-on-1. So Kelley was definitely on the group date and was the one who didn’t get a rose.

>Eliminated This Episode: Kelley Flanagan. Natasha Parker sent home during her 1-on-1.

Episode 8: Hometowns (4 to 3)

Madison Prewett Auburn, AL. (Filmed Saturday, Oct 26th)

With Madison’s dad being assistant coach with the Auburn men’s basketball team, they went to the arena, met head coach Bruce Pearl, and shot around with the players. I also heard the dinner portion at night was at Coach Pearl’s house. During this hometown date, Madison’s dad did not give Peter his blessing to marry his daughter.

Victoria Fuller Virginia Beach, VA (Filmed Monday, Oct. 28th)

If you are just tuning in and have heard all this talk about Victoria Fuller, and being the villain, and what’s the dirt behind her, it was all posted on this site the day of her hometown date, which you can read by clicking here. The Victoria expose is on page 2 of that post.

For more details on the background of Merissa and what we down between them, you can read that clicking here.

Also, I reported recently that Peter and Victoria actually broke up after they left the day portion of that date. He never met her parents. At some point between that concert and her parents place (I think it’s when they got dropped off and just talked in the street before they were supposed to go in), Peter broke it off with Victoria. You see in the season preview a clip of Victoria walking in the streets with a white jacket on telling the camera to get out of her face. Pretty sure this is right after her and Peter break up on her street before meeting her parents.

However, the next day before Peter leaves to head to TN for Hannah Ann’s hometown, Victoria goes to his hotel room, and clearly they patch things up because she is part of the hometown date rose ceremony and we know she made it through to overnights.

Hannah Ann Sluss Knoxville, TN (Filmed Wednesday, Oct. 30th)

No pictures or videos came through from her hometown, but they went to the Smoky Mountain Axe House in Alcoa, TN where they played games against other couples. Then they went to her parents house for dinner in Powell, TN.

Kelsey Weier Des Moines, IA (Filmed Friday, Nov. 1st)

Mentioned their might be drama before this date came about, but it never materialized. Kelsey and her sisters have a very contentious relationship with their father, and I was told production was trying to get the father to show up for the hometown date. I’m sure if the family caught wind of it and shut it down, or production couldn’t get a hold of him, but from everything I’ve heard, it would’ve been a disaster if he showed up. Hence the reason production was trying to get him. If you look hard enough, you can find on the internet exactly what went down years ago that caused this.

>Rose Ceremony Elimination: Kelsey Weier.

Episode 9: Overnights Australia (3 to 2)

I’m starting to hear more and more things about what went down once we got to the final 3, and then subsequently the final 2. What I do know for sure is Victoria was eliminated after overnights and she is not part of any of the equation when it comes to the finale. Kinda like Hannah Brown, just cross her off your list of possibilities for “well, I don’t know, maaaaybe he’s still in love with Victoria and…” – nope. Didn’t happen and isn’t happening. Victoria was eliminated at 3, had to stick around in Australia like every final 3 person does until filming was over, and she was out of there right when filming was over. I know she was the last of the women to turn her IG back to public, but trust me, that didn’t mean anything. She has nothing to do with the finale.

Rose Ceremony Elimination: Victoria Fuller.

Episode 10: Women Tell All

Episode 11: Finale (Hannah Ann vs Madison)

I will fill this part in with information over the next few months. You will be updated either in the column, IG, or my podcast (most likely all 3), anytime there’s any new information for me to report. For the time being, the last update on what I know about the finale was Thursday, Jan 2nd in my podcast and column, and you can read that all by clicking here.

I think I’m gonna have some more info for you next week as I’m close to confirming something pretty big that went down towards the end of the season. I’ll keep you updated.


Source: Reality Steve
by GuardianAngel
on Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:40 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Media SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2
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Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Filming Schedule - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Credit to Reality Steve for the rest of the episode spoilers:

And that’s where the episode ends, so they’ll pick up from this point next week. Obviously we know they reach some sort of conclusion where Hannah doesn’t join the show, but the nature of the conversation and how intense and in their feelings both are is the reason Peter ends up cancelling the “sex story” part of the date, tells the women he wasn’t in the right head space after talking to Hannah, and he’d see them later tonight. But we don’t get that til next week since the episode ends with Peter and Hannah still talking.

Women who didn’t get dates this episode: Kiarra Norman, Sarah Coffin, and Lexi Buchanan.

At the cocktail party, “Champagne-gate” happens. Kelsey brought a 2 year old bottle of champagne especially to open up with Peter. However, production gave it to Hannah Ann to open up with him without telling her the bottle had any significance. Kelsey walks out and sees them opening it and loses it on Hannah Ann, going off on her. Ultimately it was patched up since these two are fine on social media post-show. But at the moment, I hear it was a pretty big blow up. Of course Hannah Ann can’t say on television, “Producers gave me this bottle to open up and never told me it was yours” because, you know, then people might think the show isn’t real or something. So I guess she just left it at, “I didn’t know it was yours,” and the audience now has back-to-back episodes of Hannah Ann finding herself as part of some drama.

Wed 9/25 – Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Lauren Jones, Payton Moran, and Courtney Perry.

Rose Ceremony #3: Los Angeles, CA (19 to 15)

Thu 9/26 – Group Date: 8 women at Academy LA. Fashion show: Alexa Caves, Hannah Ann Sluss, Lexi Buchanan, Kelsey Weier, Mykenna Dorn, Deandra Kanu, Natasha Parker, and Victoria Fuller. Here were pics from the group date that tabloids took. Victoria F. got the group date rose.

Fri 9/27 – 1-on-1: Victoria Paul. The Canyon Club. Line dancing, rode mechanical bull. Kissed a lot. Peter rode the mechanical bull and got booted off and hurt his back. JustJared.com posted pics from date. Victoria got the rose.

Sat 9/28 – Group Date: 8 women: Tammy Ly, Alayah Benavidez, Sarah Coffin, Kelley Flanagan, Sydney Hightower, Shiann Lewis, Kiarra Norman, and Savannah Mullins. Chris Harrison and Fred Willard were the judges. Demi’s Extreme Pillow Fight at Cowboy Palace Saloon.

The finals were very aggressive between Alayah and Sydney. Apparently they “fought” each other 3 or 4 different times that day, and everyone else only fought once. So this has producer manipulation written all over it. But the finals got aggressive with hair pulling and swinging of the pillows.

At the after party later that night, Sydney told Peter she felt there was someone in the house that was different in front of the cameras than with the rest of the women, but didn’t name anyone by name. She was talking about Alayah though.

The cocktail party is cancelled that night in favor of a pool party, and this is where the Sydney/Victoria P. versus Alayah battle begins. Essentially the whole pool party becomes about Peter asking around to a lot of the women what they think of Alayah. And not a lot of nice things are said. They think she’s there for fame and IG followers and what not. What hasn’t been mentioned up to this point I don’t believe, is Alayah and Victoria P.’s friendship pre-show. Social media pictures bear it out that they were fine with each other heading into the show. At the pool party date, Victoria P. tells Peter she thinks Alayah is a liar and manipulative. Kinda weird how the show hasn’t mentioned yet that Alayah and Victoria P. competed together in Miss USA last year. Or made any mention of friendship. I’m thinking we’re seeing why after all this goes down.

Women who didn’t get dates this episode: Madison Prewett & Jasmine Nguyen.

Sun 9/29 – Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Alayah Benavidez, Jasmine Nguyen, Sarah Coffin, and Alexa Caves.

Rose Ceremony #4: Cleveland, OH (15 to 12)

Wed 10/2 – 1-on-1: Victoria Fuller. Victoria got the rose.

Victoria Fuller had a past with Chase Rice. They were dating/hooking up prior to coming on the show. Heard she went to one of his concerts to see him a week before filming. Clearly she didn’t know who her musical performer was going to be until she walked up on the date, then you see the total embarrassment on her face. In an article I posted yesterday, ABC executive Robert Mills said this when speaking pre-season about Victoria Fuller, and in particular, this date we’ll see this season:

I know that you don’t like to label any particular contestant as a “villain,” but the viewers do. So who do you think that will be? Is it Victoria F.?

Look, I could see potentially that happening. I think there are a few women who could get the label. But, I think the way the show is produced has evolved and it’s not like, “Oh that’s the villain” anymore. There are more shades of gray and we try to explain to you more why this person is that way. At the very least, you might have people who label someone as a villain, but you’ll have more sympathy than before.

There have been a lot of rumors about Victoria, including that she dated a musician who is performing at one of her dates with Peter. Viewers are wondering if the show is over-produced. You do background checks, so obviously you know who these contestants have dated in the past. What’s your response?

Look, I can’t say that certain things just happen completely by accident. You’d have to be an idiot to buy that some of these things are just happenstance. So yes, there is a girl and there is an entertainer on one of the dates and she happened to run into him. We don’t go in saying that we’re going to reverse engineer this, but when you find out about these things, you have to take advantage of it because it is great TV. So, I wouldn’t say over-produced, but I would say very well-produced. When you watch it, you will say, “Wow, that was great TV.”

Also after that date took place, Chase Rice was asked about it at the CMA’s and had this to say:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B41MeZ5H_13/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=loading

Thurs 10/3 – Group Date: Flag football game at Browns Stadium with 13 women called the “Bachelor Bowl”: Hannah Ann, Lexi, Mykenna, Deandra, Natasha, Victoria P., Tammy, Kelley, Sydney, Shiann, Kiarra, Savannah, and Madison. Baker Mayfield and Myles Garrett were supposed to be the coaches, but ended up not being the case. So it was former Browns Josh Cribbs and like the leader of the Dawg Pound.

The group date after party is where madness happens. Alayah returns to the show and shows up during this after party. She felt that she was sent home at the last rose ceremony due to wrong information Peter was hearing from others. She tells him she’s there for him, and he ends up giving her the group date rose. Other women are not happy Peter gave Alayah the rose. Because Alayah was home for a day, she clearly read online what was going on with the Victoria date at the Chase Rice concert and her past. At some point, she mentions to the women there that she heard Victoria F. and Chase Rice had a past. None of them women knew this. I guess Victoria F. never told them after her date. They run it back to Victoria F., and she goes off on Alayah in an expletive filled tirade that it wasn’t her business, and it was disrespectful, etc. Apparently this did not sit well with Victoria F. and Alayah was basically in a stay of execution at the house at that point from what I was told. Not many thought she should’ve been able to come back, and then she got the group date rose on top of that.

Fri 10/4 – 1-on-1: Kelsey Weier. Cleveland Area Soap Box Derby race in downtown Cleveland. Tons of pics and videos from that event. Kelsey got the rose.

At the cocktail party before the rose ceremony, Alayah and Peter talked and I have no idea if they’re gonna make it seem like Alayah wanted to leave after she felt she was attacked in the house, or, if they’re gonna make it seem like Peter changed his mind and told her she should leave because him giving her the group date rose when she came back caused too many problems. All I heard at the time was “Alayah left on her own,” but I have a feeling it won’t be shown that way. Peter even brings Victoria P. and Alayah into a room together to discuss their beef but I’m not sure what gets said. The takeaway from everything I’d heard at the time (remember this was back in early October), was that Alayah felt no one in the house was on her side, and after the Victoria F. incident, she just wanted out. So safe to say Alayah wasn’t part of the “cats.”

Sat 10/5 – Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Kiarra Norman, Savannah Mullins, and Deandra Kanu. Alayah Benavidez returned during the group date after party, got a rose, but then left the show before the rose ceremony started.

As you can see, not to ton of info when they went overseas. No pictures or videos ever got out, and once I had confirmed the final four, I just never went back and did much digging. The dates that I do have posted and all the eliminations in each country are correct. Just don’t have many details and none of the group dates. I will fill these in as the season goes along.

Rose Ceremony #5: Costa Rica (12 to 10)

1-on-1: Sydney Hightower. Sydney gets the rose.

Group Date:

1-on-1: Kelley Flanagan. Kelley gets the rose.

Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Shiann Lewis and Lexi Buchanan.

>Rose Ceremony #6: Santiago, Chile (10 to 6)

1-on-1: Hannah Ann Sluss. Hannah Ann gets the rose.

Group Date:

1-on-1: Victoria Fuller. Victoria gets the rose.

At some point during this episode, Victoria Paul and Peter talk and was told they were just on different pages. They mutually agreed to part ways, but again, I don’t know how the show will choose to show it. Victoria did have to crown her Miss Louisiana successor the day after she left, so I’m sure that played some role in her wanting to leave. That timing is too convenient.

>Rose Ceremony Eliminations: Sydney Hightower, Mykenna Dunn, and Tammy Ly. Victoria Paul left on her own earlier in the episode.

Rose Ceremony #7: Lima, Peru (6 to 4)

1-on-1: Natasha Parker. Got sent home on her date.

1-on-1: Kelsey Weier.

Group Date: Not sure if 3 or 4 were on this group date. If it was 3, there was another 1-on-1 this episode. If there were 4, then these were the 3 dates this episode and this group date would’ve had Hannah Ann, Madison, Kelley, and Victoria Fuller on it.

The last few seasons, we know the episode before hometowns, that roses are given out on the dates and there hasn’t been a rose ceremony. What we do know is Natasha and Kelley were eliminated this episode, and Natasha I know had a 1-on-1. So Kelley was definitely on the group date and was the one who didn’t get a rose.

>Eliminated This Episode: Kelley Flanagan. Natasha Parker sent home during her 1-on-1.

Episode 8: Hometowns (4 to 3)

Madison Prewett Auburn, AL. (Filmed Saturday, Oct 26th)

With Madison’s dad being assistant coach with the Auburn men’s basketball team, they went to the arena, met head coach Bruce Pearl, and shot around with the players. I also heard the dinner portion at night was at Coach Pearl’s house. During this hometown date, Madison’s dad did not give Peter his blessing to marry his daughter.

Victoria Fuller Virginia Beach, VA (Filmed Monday, Oct. 28th)

If you are just tuning in and have heard all this talk about Victoria Fuller, and being the villain, and what’s the dirt behind her, it was all posted on this site the day of her hometown date, which you can read by clicking here. The Victoria expose is on page 2 of that post.

For more details on the background of Merissa and what we down between them, you can read that clicking here.

Also, I reported recently that Peter and Victoria actually broke up after they left the day portion of that date. He never met her parents. At some point between that concert and her parents place (I think it’s when they got dropped off and just talked in the street before they were supposed to go in), Peter broke it off with Victoria. You see in the season preview a clip of Victoria walking in the streets with a white jacket on telling the camera to get out of her face. Pretty sure this is right after her and Peter break up on her street before meeting her parents.

However, the next day before Peter leaves to head to TN for Hannah Ann’s hometown, Victoria goes to his hotel room, and clearly they patch things up because she is part of the hometown date rose ceremony and we know she made it through to overnights.

Hannah Ann Sluss Knoxville, TN (Filmed Wednesday, Oct. 30th)

No pictures or videos came through from her hometown, but they went to the Smoky Mountain Axe House in Alcoa, TN where they played games against other couples. Then they went to her parents house for dinner in Powell, TN.

Kelsey Weier Des Moines, IA (Filmed Friday, Nov. 1st)

Mentioned their might be drama before this date came about, but it never materialized. Kelsey and her sisters have a very contentious relationship with their father, and I was told production was trying to get the father to show up for the hometown date. I’m sure if the family caught wind of it and shut it down, or production couldn’t get a hold of him, but from everything I’ve heard, it would’ve been a disaster if he showed up. Hence the reason production was trying to get him. If you look hard enough, you can find on the internet exactly what went down years ago that caused this.

>Rose Ceremony Elimination: Kelsey Weier.

Episode 9: Overnights Australia (3 to 2)

I’m starting to hear more and more things about what went down once we got to the final 3, and then subsequently the final 2. What I do know for sure is Victoria was eliminated after overnights and she is not part of any of the equation when it comes to the finale. Kinda like Hannah Brown, just cross her off your list of possibilities for “well, I don’t know, maaaaybe he’s still in love with Victoria and…” – nope. Didn’t happen and isn’t happening. Victoria was eliminated at 3, had to stick around in Australia like every final 3 person does until filming was over, and she was out of there right when filming was over. I know she was the last of the women to turn her IG back to public, but trust me, that didn’t mean anything. She has nothing to do with the finale.

Rose Ceremony Elimination: Victoria Fuller.

Episode 10: Women Tell All

Episode 11: Finale (Hannah Ann vs Madison)

I will fill this part in with information over the next few months. You will be updated either in the column, IG, or my podcast (most likely all 3), anytime there’s any new information for me to report. For the time being, the last update on what I know about the finale was Thursday, Jan 2nd in my podcast and column, and you can read that all by clicking here.

I think I’m gonna have some more info for you next week as I’m close to confirming something pretty big that went down towards the end of the season. I’ll keep you updated.


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by bluwavz
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Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - July 29 & 30 - Finale - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

locoforbach wrote:Thank goodness this season is over.  IMO worst B'ette ever.  It was all about Hannah embracing her Inner Woman Power. She did this by mounting every guy she could, demeaning people when they didn't treat her exactly as she expected, keeping a manipulative/controlling guy around for weeks, and boasting about having sex with someone who was not her F1.  None of that was mature to me.  

I don't go on SM so don't know all the ins and outs of what Jed did.  He lied and covered up a "girlfriend" he had prior to the show.  Did we ever believe he wasn't on the show for exposure??  duh

Now Hannah asks Tyler out??  After he has watched her declare love to Jed AND loudly and proudly announce she slept with Peter FOUR times.

My advice for Hannah in the future:
#1 Lead with conversation; mutual, not just yourself and what you need.
#2 Learn from past mistakes.
#3 Your needs are important but in a relationship both should be equal. Be considerate and conscientious.
#4 Sex and Love - two VERY different things. Know the difference.
#5 Leave Tyler alone. He doesn't need to be your rebound or used so that you stay relevant on SM.

Sorry, I am not usually negative but this season left such a bad taste in my mouth.  In the end I found myself liking most of the men better than Hannah.  My apologies because I am sure she is a nice person, she just needs to get a clue and grow up a bit.


@locoforbach
Thank you for perfectly expressing my thoughts and feelings. I was really pained to see him last nite after having to watch how absolutely in love she was with Jed. I found it gut-wrenching and I am truly just annoyed by the sentiment that he should just chin up and accept her complete and utter foolishness and take her back and be proud. Well, he shouldn’t, IMO. He doesn’t need her, I hope he doesn’t trust her and to me that knowledge was written all over him. She trapped him with that stupid drink offer. He was too polite to say no but, his theme as Bachelor will be - “looking for a girl who will put me first”.

Hannah does NOT deserve Tyler, period. To allow him to get a ring and come prepared with the most beautiful and heartfelt proposal and then choose that Jackazz after hurting and embarrassing Tyler like that on national tv. It was so obvious to anyone who was objective, she still wasn’t willing to leave Jed until it was made clear to her by SM that she would be considered the biggest fool ever if she didn’t. So on the topic of her courage, she has none. She’s just a fool trying to save face. I hope Tyler is done bailing her sorry azz out of the mess she’s made because she deserves to live with it and learn from it. And his mom, was just playing the role the producers prescribed. I don’t believe any mother would want that foolish girl for her son. All IMO.
by Chgohighlife
on Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:44 pm
 
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Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - July 29 & 30 - Finale - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

Thank goodness this season is over.  IMO worst B'ette ever.  It was all about Hannah embracing her Inner Woman Power. She did this by mounting every guy she could, demeaning people when they didn't treat her exactly as she expected, keeping a manipulative/controlling guy around for weeks, and boasting about having sex with someone who was not her F1.  None of that was mature to me.  

I don't go on SM so don't know all the ins and outs of what Jed did.  He lied and covered up a "girlfriend" he had prior to the show.  Did we ever believe he wasn't on the show for exposure??  duh

Now Hannah asks Tyler out??  After he has watched her declare love to Jed AND loudly and proudly announce she slept with Peter FOUR times.

My advice for Hannah in the future:
#1 Lead with conversation; mutual, not just yourself and what you need.
#2 Learn from past mistakes.
#3 Your needs are important but in a relationship both should be equal. Be considerate and conscientious.
#4 Sex and Love - two VERY different things. Know the difference.
#5 Leave Tyler alone. He doesn't need to be your rebound or used so that you stay relevant on SM.

Sorry, I am not usually negative but this season left such a bad taste in my mouth.  In the end I found myself liking most of the men better than Hannah.  My apologies because I am sure she is a nice person, she just needs to get a clue and grow up a bit.
by locoforbach
on Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:48 am
 
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Bachelor In Paradise - Season 6 - Media SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Credit to RS for the BiP spoilers:

“Bachelor in Paradise” begins Aug. 5th and 6th and will run every Monday and Tuesday night for 6 weeks. The show filmed for about 21 days in June.

There were three people I was made aware of that were flown to Mexico, put up in a hotel, but were never brought on the show:

Brooks Forester
Nina Bartula (Colton’s season)
Danielle Lombard (Danielle was part of Chris and Krystal’s wedding, and was supposed to come on the show from there, but ended up not getting brought on)

Everyone who enters the show enters with a date card and asks someone on date. All those dates are posted here. Other couples definitely have dates throughout the course of the season, but since it was hard to figure out at what point they did, I just left them out.

Because the show airs over two nights, and will be very lenient on when rose ceremonies air, I broke it down by what you’ll see from rose ceremony to rose ceremony, rather than by episodes, since that’d be more confusing.

Here is your original cast for “Bachelor in Paradise.”

Men:

Kevin Fortenberry (Hannah’s season)
John Paul Jones (Hannah)
Dylan Barbour (Hannah)
Cam Ayala (Hannah)
Blake Horstman (Becca’s season)
Wills Reid (Becca)
Clay Harbor (Becca)
Derek Peth (JoJo’s season, BIP season 4)
Chris Bukowski (Emily’s season, Andi’s season, Bachelor Pad season 3, BIP seasons 1 & 2. Yes, he has come out of retirement).

Women:

Hannah Godwin (Colton’s season)
Caelynn Miller-Keyes (Colton)
Nicole Lopez-Alvar (Colton)
Onyeka Ehie (Colton)
Tayshia Adams (Colton)
Sydney Lotuaco (Colton)
Jane Aver (Colton)
Demi Burnett (Colton)
Katie Morton (Colton)
Bibiana Julian (Arie’s season)
Annaliese Puccini (Arie)
Kristina Schulman (Nick’s season & BIP 4) joined the cast on day 2.

Dates:

Blake gets the first date card of the season and asks out Tayshia.
Kristina arrives with a date card on Day 2 and asks out Blake.
Clay is given a date card and he asks out Nicole.

If you didn’t read what I already posted on June 18th about Blake and his whole situation after he got back from his date with Kristina, you can read it all here. The first two episodes on Aug. 5th and 6th will be about Blake. That’s where all the poop hits the fan with him. After that, there really isn’t much drama surrounding him. There’s A LOT of questions surrounding this Blake situation that, hopefully, we’ll get answered going forward. Just a few that I have:

-What was he thinking?
-How exactly did Stagecoach go down?
-How did the trip to Alabama before BIP filming come about?
-Who knew about who and when? Mainly, did Tayshia, Kristina, and Caelynn all know about the other at Stagecoach? If not, when did they find out and how?
-When Blake went to Alabama, did Hannah know about Tayshia, Kristina, and Caelynn from Stagecoach?
-If Blake was all about Hannah (which he tells Tayshia and Caelynn after the first rose ceremony his focus was now on Hannah), why wouldn’t he have asked her out when he got the first date card of the season?
-What did he think his biggest mistake was in all this?
-If he could take one thing back pre-show and during filming, what would it be?

Yeah, so those are just a few to say the least. You know how I said Luke is the one guy I’d probably want to hear from most when this is all said and done? I’d make Blake 1B. Because before BIP, Blake had a pretty squeaky clean image. I don’t think he’s a horrible guy, but I do want to know how he got himself into this mess and his thoughts on all of it.

Some other drama that happened before this rose ceremony involved Annaliese. Because she is friends with Angela, Clay’s ex-girlfriend, she wasn’t happy Clay was on the show and felt he broke up with Angela so he could do it. She confronted Clay with this.

Also, at the cocktail party before the rose ceremony, Annaliese told Chris he was the only guy she wanted to be with. Gee, shocker. Annaliese immediately clinging on to a guy? No way! Anyway, Chris was having none of that and didn’t want to be attached to someone so quickly, so, he didn’t give her a rose.

Rose Ceremony #1 (Men giving out roses)

Clay gave his rose to Nicole
Kevin to Sydney
Blake to Tayshia
Cam to Caelynn
John Paul Jones to Onyeka
Wills to Katie
Derek to Demi
Chris B. to Kristina
Dylan to Hannah G.

Eliminated this rose ceremony: Bibiana Julian, Annaliese Puccini, and Jane Aver.

Rose Ceremony #2: (Men asking dates, Women giving out roses)

Men (13): Clay, Kevin, Blake, Cam, John Paul Jones, Wills, Derek, Chris, and Dylan. Four guys entering this episode: Jordan Kimball (Becca’s season, BIP 5), Mike Johnson (Hannah’s season), Christian Estrada (Becca’s season), and Dean Unglert (Rachel’s season, BIP 4)
Women (9): Nicole, Sydney, Tayshia, Caelynn, Onyeka, Katie, Demi, Kristina, and Hannah G.

Dates:

Jordan with Nicole
Mike with Caelynn
Christian with Nicole
Dean with Caelynn

It’s during this episode that Blake tells Caelynn and Tayshia that he wants to pursue Hannah G. Hannah is already pretty close with Dylan at this point, so nothing ever comes of Blake & Hannah, although at the rose ceremony, they’ll probably make it seem like Hannah was choosing between Dylan and Blake.

During the cocktail party of this episode, Christian and Nicole are off by themselves talking and he brought a pinata. Clay goes over to interrupt and basically Christian doesn’t let him. Clay goes back to the group, tells them what happened, and Jordan then goes over to talk to Christian. He’s about to rip the pinata from where it was hanging (basically to throw it in the ocean like last season’s teddy bear), but Christian grabs his arm, and Jordan body slams him to the ground. Security has to jump in and separate the two, and after a while, Chris Harrison says they both have to leave the show. You saw a clip of how this goes down on the promo that ran last night.

Rose Ceremony #2: (Women giving out roses)

Demi gives her rose to Derek
Caelynn to Dean
Hannah G to Dylan
Nicole to Clay
Katie to Chris
Sydney to Mike
Tayshia to JPJ
Kristina to Blake

Onyeka ended up not giving out her rose. Said she didn’t find a connection so she ends up leaving.

Eliminated this rose ceremony: Cam Ayala, Kevin Fortenberry, and Wills Reid. Jordan Kimball & Christian Estrada eliminated earlier in the episode.

Rose Ceremony #3: (Men giving out roses, Women entering)

Women (12): Demi, Caelynn, Hannah, Nicole, Katie, Sydney, Tayshia, and Kristina. Four women entering this episode: Tahzjuan Hawkins (Colton’s season), Haley Ferguson (Ben Higgins’ season), Jen Saviano (Nick’s season, BIP 3), and Caitlin Clemmens (Colton’s season).
Men (8): Derek, Dean, Dylan, Clay, Chris, Mike, JPJ, and Blake.

Dates:

Tahzjuan with JPJ
Haley with JPJ
J Sav with Chris
Caitlin with Blake
Angela with Mike

Rose Ceremony #3: (Men giving out roses)

Demi to Kristian
JPJ to Haley
Derek to Tayshia
Dylan to Hannah G
Clay to Nicole
Chris to Katie
Dean to Caelynn
Mike to Sydney
Blake to Kristina

I know at some point this episode, Tahzjuan and Haley get into it because Tahzjuan called her a name. Something to do with a bird or something. Totally bizarre, but Tahzjuan, by all accounts, loses it this episode and that’s why she didn’t get a rose.

It’s during this episode that Kristian Haggerty, Demi’s girlfriend before the show, is brought on and they start dating. Basically every rose ceremony from this point forward starts with Demi going first and giving her rose to Kristian.

Dean leaves after giving Caelynn his rose. Says he doesn’t see anything progressing post-show, so she gets to stay, and he bolts.

Eliminated this rose ceremony: Tahzjuan Hawkins, Caitlin Clemmens, and Jen Saviano.

Rose Ceremony #4: (Women giving out roses, Men entering)

Men (11): JPJ, Derek, Dylan, Clay, Chris, Mike, and Blake. 4 guys entering this episode are: Connor Saeli (Hannah’s season), Chase McNary (JoJo’s season), Old Matt Donald (Hannah’s season), and Luke Stone (Hannah’s season).
Women (11): Demi, Kristian, Haley, Tayshia, Hannah, Nicole, Katie, Caelynn, Sydney, and Kristina. Angela Amezcua (Nick’s season, BIP 5) entered this episode. She was part of Chris and Krystal’s wedding that happened after the 3rd rose ceremony, then joined the cast from there.

Dates:

Angela with Mike
Chase with Angela
Connor with Caelynn
Old Matt Donald with Sydney – double date
Luke with Kristina – double date

This episode is where we see the fight shown in the promo of JPJ and Derek. Essentially JPJ accuses Derek of saying something along the lines of using women, or using Tayshia, JPJ takes to her defense, Tayshia essentially takes JPJ’s side during this fight and Derek ends up crying and leaving the show.

The Blake/Kristina relationship takes somewhat of a turn before this rose ceremony as he tells her he wants to try a relationship again with her and doesn’t want to keep giving friendship roses to each other.

Rose Ceremony #4: (Women giving out roses)

Demi to Kristian
Tayshia to JPJ
Hannah to Dylan
Nicole to Clay
Katie to Chris
Caelynn to Connor
Haley to Luke S.
Sydney to Matt
Kristina to Blake
Angela to Chase

Eliminated this rose ceremony: Mike Johnson. Derek Peth eliminated earlier in the episode.

Rose Ceremony #5: (Men giving out roses, Women entering)

Women (14): Demi, Kristian, Tayshia, Hannah, Nicole, Katie, Caelynn, Haley, Sydney, Kristina, and Angela. The three women entering this episode are: Revian Chang (Colton’s season), Bri Barnes (Colton’s season), and Whitney Fransway (Nick’s season).
Men (9): JPJ, Dylan, Clay, Chris, Connor, Luke S., Matt, Blake, and Chase.

There’s A LOT that goes down this episode because it’s the last rose ceremony before the remaining couples have to decide whether to split or stay together and take the overnight date, so a lot of people eventually get weeded out/sent home. I think I have everyone accounted for, but here’s what I know goes down this episode.

Dates:

Bri with Matt
Revian with Connor

This is the episode where Dean comes back and takes Caelynn with him. While she’s with Connor (someone she told people beforehand is the one guy she came on the show for), Dean shows up, pulls her aside, Caelynn is going back and forth talking between Dean and Connor, then starts making out with Dean and leaves with him. Connor is crushed. All I know is I read in many post Colton interviews that Caelynn said she was looking for a good Christian boy, and she ends up doing this. Obviously you’ve seen the numerous pictures of Caelynn and Dean together in Europe post show, so yeah, makes all the sense in the world. Good luck you two. Or should I say good luck Caelynn, because in a few months, dude will move on to someone else. It’s who he is.

Connor had met Whitney Fransway at Chris and Krystal’s wedding. He thought she was eventually gonna come on the show. She didn’t, so Connor left. When they finally did bring Whitney on, Connor was gone. So what happened was, they actually sent Whitney to Connor’s room, and Whitney and Connor got to spend a few days in Mexico together and they are still seeing each other last I checked.

Also in this episode, Blake planned a private date for himself with Kristina, but on this date, Kristina told him she wasn’t feeling it and had buried her feelings for him and wasn’t looking to rekindle them in Paradise. So Blake leaves, and Kristina leaves shortly thereafter. As far as I know, nothing is happening between these two post-show. But I think you can set your stop watch now to see how long it takes Kristina to pair up with someone from the franchise. It’ll happen.

There’s also a love triangle going on between Old Matt Donald, Bri, and Sydney. I don’t know if Sydney made it to the rose ceremony portion and didn’t get a rose, or she left before it.

Rose Ceremony #5: (Men giving out roses)

Demi to Kristian
JPJ to Tayshia
Dylan to Hannah
Clay to Nicole
Chris to Katie
Matt to Bri
Chase to Angela
Luke has a rose and no one wants it so he has to leave. Either Haley left before this rose ceremony, or refused to take Luke’s rose because she was sick of him talking about his tequila business. That became a thing.

So of those remaining couples:

JPJ and Tayshia broke things off and didn’t take the overnight date. I believe Tayshia was the one who ended it.
Matt and Bri broke things off and didn’t take the overnight date. I believe Bri ended it.
Chase and Angela broke things off and didn’t take the overnight date. I believe Chase ended it.

4 couples go to the overnight dates:

Demi and Kristian
Dylan and Hannah
Clay and Nicole
Chris and Katie

On “Decision Day,” Nicole breaks up with Clay because he won’t tell her he’s in love with her/won’t propose. So they leave broken up.

The other 3 couples:

Demi/Kristian, Dylan/Hannah, Chris/Katie all get engaged.

So there you go. Gonna be quite an interesting season of Paradise with more tears than you can shake a stick at. Be ready because there’s a ton of drama this season.

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by bluwavz
on Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:10 pm
 
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Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Comparisons - *SLEUTHING SPOILERS*

Jed’s reaction to date. Watch the initial reaction “Yeah?” and then his secondary, delayed reaction.

via GIPHY



Tyler’s reaction to his date card.

via GIPHY




Mike’s reaction to his date card.

via GIPHY



Also worth viewing is Jed’s shaking his head “No” when telling Hannah he feels the same way and is in love with her. At this point (episode 8), even though he told her in episode 7 that he was falling in love with her, IMO…his body language is showing the has NOT “fallen” yet. It will be interesting to see how his body language changes in these last few episodes.

via GIPHY



Episode #4, Hannah admitted Luke was her #1 but here in episode #8 she basically admits Jed is her #1. So Luke imploding helped propel Jed ahead. I wonder where Peter and Tyler were in her ranking. I think Mike was always #5 and Garret #6. And Connor should’ve stayed back in the US. Luke got a late 1-1 and it was a disaster. He never got a 2nd 1-1 but for some reason Hannah kept dragging him along.
by North
on Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:59 am
 
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Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - SHV's - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

@alwayscooking this is what @sdmom put together so far. It's all in the SHV NO Discussion thread.

GuardianAngel wrote:
sdmom wrote:This is what I had:

CMA date where there was a possible sighting of them together, that is on June 7th And 8th. . And we know Hannah was seen leaving pretty quickly in the afternoon after her M& G.  (according to RS?)

Hannah in Mexico Tuesday 6/11 https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p264-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2

Hannah spotted in  Phoenix airport Friday, June 14, around 3 pm PST, https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p300-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2#1386087

This is last sighting of her.

Jed's last live stories were 6/13 Thursday of him with a friend.
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p240-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2

That’s the last sighting of Jed.

Both posted throw back IG story pictures on father’s day on 6/16 Sunday  within an hour. Both had some activities on Twitter 6/17 Monday on show time.

Hannah posted on Wednesday on 6/19
Jed :6/18 Tuesday around 1:15 pm est was the last time he was on social media via a tweet
Jed on IG Thursday 6/20

Hannah Thursday 6/20 in LA dodgers game

https://www.instagram.com/p/By9JPltF184/?igshid=gldis0jfq5yr

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@smg2587 wrote:
Video of Jed singing Happy Birthday to someone who seems to be a fan of his. Guessing he did the video in the last 2 days. He seems to also have a tan in the video. Not 100% sure the location. Edit to say that now I am pretty sure that is his apartment. He has the same archway in some of his post.

Posted a week ago

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https://www.instagram.com/p/By_D8_CHENX/

People magazine Haley article came out Tuesday 6/18

Now @smg2587 and @mercieme please fill this out :
Sleuthers on this board on Wednesday 6/26  noticed Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet, all time PST
Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5
Post by ReneeM on Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:25 pm
Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet BTW

And then she liked his  IG later

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Post by bluwavz on Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:57 pm
She liked his post on IG too just a couple minutes ago

and they seemed to be online at the same time
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzMHUc5FD4L/?igshid=1t3ir04402rgw


RS announced yesterday 6/27 Hannah broke off her engagement



SHV NO Discussion
by GuardianAngel
on Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:09 am
 
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Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - SHV's - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

Thanks for everyone’s reply. I made some changes, but I agree with @guardianangel that we should stick to the facts as much as possible. So if you have picture proof, please post the link. If it’s from a spoiler site, please site the source.

I put ** in front of info that’s not verified:



**  CMA date where there was a possible sighting of them together, that is on June 7th And 8th. . And we know Hannah was seen leaving pretty quickly in the afternoon after her M& G.  (according to RS)

Hannah in Mexico Tuesday 6/11 https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p264-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2

Hannah spotted in  Phoenix airport Friday, June 14, around 3 pm PST, https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p300-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2#1386087

This is last sighting of her.

Jed's last live stories were 6/13 Thursday of him with a friend.
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p240-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2

That’s the last sighting of Jed.

Both posted throw back IG story pictures on father’s day on 6/16 Sunday  within an hour. Both had some activities on Twitter 6/17 Monday on show time.

Hannah posted on Wednesday on 6/19
Jed :6/18 Tuesday around 1:15 pm est was the last time he was on social media via a tweet
Jed on IG Thursday 6/20

Hannah Thursday 6/20 in LA dodgers game

https://www.instagram.com/p/By9JPltF184/?igshid=gldis0jfq5yr


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@smg2587 wrote:
Video of Jed singing Happy Birthday to someone who seems to be a fan of his. Guessing he did the video in the last 2 days. He seems to also have a tan in the video. Not 100% sure the location. Edit to say that now I am pretty sure that is his apartment. He has the same archway in some of his post.

Posted a week ago


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https://www.instagram.com/p/By_D8_CHENX/

People magazine Haley article came out Tuesday 6/18

Now @smg2587 and @mercieme please fill this out :
Sleuthers on this board on Wednesday 6/26  noticed Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet, all time PST
Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5
Post by ReneeM on Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:25 pm
Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet BTW

And then she liked his  IG later

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Post by bluwavz on Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:57 pm
She liked his post on IG too just a couple minutes ago

and they seemed to be online at the same time
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzMHUc5FD4L/?igshid=1t3ir04402rgw

** Kelly Keegs said film crews spotted in Nashville early this week  

RS podcast with Haley in the morning of June 27 before he announced the engagement break.

** RS announced Thursday 6/27 Hannah broke off her engagement
** the mod on Reddit (who also gets spoilers) posted that she was told they broke it off on Monday (June 24)
by sdmom
on Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:18 pm
 
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sdmom wrote:
snipped

Sleuthers on this board on Wednesday 6/26  noticed Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet, all time PST
Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5
Post by ReneeM on Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:25 pm
Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet BTW

And then she liked his  IG later

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Post by bluwavz on Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:57 pm
She liked his post on IG too just a couple minutes ago

and they seemed to be online at the same time
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzMHUc5FD4L/?igshid=1t3ir04402rgw


RS podcast with Haley in the morning of June 27 before he announced the engagement break.

RS announced yesterday 6/27 Hannah broke off her engagement


Just to add this - while RS posted "I can confirm that Hannah broke off her engagement to Jed earlier this week." the mod on Reddit (who also gets spoilers) posted that she was told they broke it off on Monday (June 24) - so any clues of Jed's or Hannah's whereabouts on that date would be interesting.
by Lucas15
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Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - SHV's NO Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

sdmom wrote:This is what I had:

CMA date where there was a possible sighting of them together, that is on June 7th And 8th. . And we know Hannah was seen leaving pretty quickly in the afternoon after her M& G.  (according to RS?)

Hannah in Mexico Tuesday 6/11 https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p264-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2

Hannah spotted in  Phoenix airport Friday, June 14, around 3 pm PST, https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p300-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2#1386087

This is last sighting of her.

Jed's last live stories were 6/13 Thursday of him with a friend.
https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5226p240-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-shv-s-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers-2

That’s the last sighting of Jed.

Both posted throw back IG story pictures on father’s day on 6/16 Sunday  within an hour. Both had some activities on Twitter 6/17 Monday on show time.

Hannah posted on Wednesday on 6/19
Jed :6/18 Tuesday around 1:15 pm est was the last time he was on social media via a tweet
Jed on IG Thursday 6/20

Hannah Thursday 6/20 in LA dodgers game

https://www.instagram.com/p/By9JPltF184/?igshid=gldis0jfq5yr

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@smg2587 wrote:
Video of Jed singing Happy Birthday to someone who seems to be a fan of his. Guessing he did the video in the last 2 days. He seems to also have a tan in the video. Not 100% sure the location. Edit to say that now I am pretty sure that is his apartment. He has the same archway in some of his post.

Posted a week ago

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https://www.instagram.com/p/By_D8_CHENX/

People magazine Haley article came out Tuesday 6/18

Now @smg2587 and @mercieme please fill this out :
Sleuthers on this board on Wednesday 6/26  noticed Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet, all time PST
Re: Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #5
Post by ReneeM on Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:25 pm
Hannah liked Tyler’s tweet BTW

And then she liked his  IG later

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Post by bluwavz on Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:57 pm
She liked his post on IG too just a couple minutes ago

and they seemed to be online at the same time
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzMHUc5FD4L/?igshid=1t3ir04402rgw


RS announced yesterday 6/27 Hannah broke off her engagement
by GuardianAngel
on Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:07 am
 
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