The Bachelorette 11 - Kaitlyn Bristowe - Epi 4 Jun 8th - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

However- it is the same shirt that Shawn has on in NY, on the stage, correct? Therefore he must wear the same shirt twice.

If the above conversation occurs in Ireland, he also has the same shirt in NY. My point is that we now know that she is having the above conversation with Shawn, based on his matching shirt.

The shirt Shawn's wearing in NYC appears black/dark grey.  The shirt in the elevator is burgandy (or maroon or some color along those lines)  They appear to be the same or very, very similar style(s) just different colors.

I don't think the shirt in NYC is the same as the maroon opening the door shirt. That one looks more like a thicker sweater as opposed to a tshirt material in NYC cap.

Looks the same to me, but I may have my tv setting to a different setting than you do.  

If you don't think it matches, that's all good.  It seems to match from my end.   The shirt is solid in front, burgundy, but has the stripes in back.  I recognized it right away, because I have been looking for it. I like to check this stuff out on a big screen in slo mo, so that could also be the difference.

It's all good.  Back to your sleuthing!  Have fun.

Not the same shirt, imo. Agree with GA and LB82.

it's the same shirt in a different color...focus in on the shoulder shape -- it has a uniform/solid color (without strips on the shoulder) and the stripes meet the seam from the shoulder down...

guys tend to buy clothes they line in diff colors or in multiples I think it's shawn with a burgundy version of the same shirt from the NYC date. wasn't it reported that sex happened in Dublin? her facial expression when she greets Shawn is very curious ...can't really place it but it's cautious/mischievous... and she's crying immediately after that meetup cos the makeup and her shirt and the curtains match with that of the ITM

The one in the hotel screencap has a solid colour on the shoulder. The stripes are only on the back panel. If you know sewing, the entire back panel not including the collar or the shoulder swaths of fabric.

In the screencap of Shawn wearing the shirt, it matches. A solid colour on the front and sleeves only, and thick stripes on the back.

No problem, we may see the shirt on Monday.

Oh, crap! I see JJ in next weeks SCs. I better stock up on barf bags.

So if you believe the grey flecked shirt Kailyn is wearing when she lets Shawn in her room is the same grey flecked shirt she is wearing while crying (which I do believe) isn't she saying "I made a mistake it doesn't make me a bad person"? If so maybe this is either when she told Shawn about pre Fantasy suite hook up with another guy and he took it badly or he is the pre Fantasy suite hook up she made the mistake with. This still leaves me going around in circles just don't know if it is clockwise or counter clockwise. LOL

Luvstruck wrote:So if you believe the grey flecked shirt Kailyn is wearing  when she lets Shawn in her room is the same grey flecked shirt she is wearing while crying (which I do believe) isn't she saying "I made a mistake it doesn't make me a bad person"? If so maybe this is either when she told Shawn about pre Fantasy suite hook up with another guy and he took it badly or he is the pre Fantasy suite hook up  she made the mistake with. This still leaves me going around in circles just don't know if it is clockwise or counter clockwise. LOL

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Luvstruck wrote:So if you believe the grey flecked shirt Kailyn is wearing  when she lets Shawn in her room is the same grey flecked shirt she is wearing while crying (which I do believe) isn't she saying "I made a mistake it doesn't make me a bad person"? If so maybe this is either when she told Shawn about pre Fantasy suite hook up with another guy and he took it badly or he is the pre Fantasy suite hook up  she made the mistake with. This still leaves me going around in circles just don't know if it is clockwise or counter clockwise. LOL

Yes, I do think so. I believe also that it is Shawn going into her hotel room, and shown in the elavator leaving. Who knows, this could be this season's hoodie or baseball tee. It could be the short handed out in gift bags in multiple colours. I think it is the same shirt that Shawn is wearing on stage (IMO). It just looks black there under the stage lights.

It's all good.

Lots of pics from this weeks episode:

http://www.buddytv.com/slideshows/the-bachelorette/the-bachelorette-season-11-week-4-photos-the-guys-have-a-rap-battle-in-new-york-city-32952.aspx