THE BACHELORETTE - SEASON 12 - JOJO FLETCHER - **NO SPOILERS** - SCaps - *SLEUTHING* DISCUSSION

Thanks everyone! Team effort here and helped me dig more There's always the possibility it is not Chase but atm I am thinking it is. The watch also seems to have a darker face in both s/caps (limo exit and dancing) so thinking it may be the same one and not someone else. Hopefully so. I do think it helps possibly confirm that Jordan is on the stairs with JoJo and not Chase based on JoJo's dress and if Chase dancing.

Now if only I can find where the pre-HTD RC in Argentina is. No luck at all. I guess it doesn't really matter but it would help confirm a timeline possibly.

How do we know that it is Jordan on the stairs based on Chase dancing?

nd4reality wrote:How do we know that it is Jordan on the stairs based on Chase dancing?

Based on JoJo's clothes, imo.

For comparison:
1) with Chase - JoJo is wearing a white dress with black straps.

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3504-the-bachelorette-season-12-jojo-fletcher-no-spoilers-scaps-media-sleuthing-no-discussion

2) with Jordan - JoJo is wearing a white long-sleeve top with black lace and a black skirt, imo.
On the steps in the closeup the white long-sleeve top with black lace (pattern) can be seen in the upper right hand corner of s/cap.

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3504p12-the-bachelorette-season-12-jojo-fletcher-no-spoilers-scaps-media-sleuthing-no-discussion

Lost17 wrote:Ok, here's what I'm seeing (my caps were a little clearer) and which guys went on the sandboarding date-
In the dune buggy
Front is-Grant Chase Alex Evan
Back is-Vinny Wells James T Luke Derek

Thank you @Lost17 So about 9 guys then so definitely thinking Uruguay before Argentina based on number of guys on that GD (and likely more since someone or more had 1on1s too) and then Thailand for FDs. There may be other locations too but so far from s/caps those are the locations sleuthed atm.


So likely travel locations timeline: USA - Uruguay - Argentina - USA (HTDs) - Thailand (FDs) -- ? MTP/LCD/FRC (stay in Thailand or go somewhere else? I'd think they'd just stay in Thailand as it is cheaper/less time travel? So like Ben in Jamaica?)

Sorry to quote myself and earlier posts (here,here) but I think I found the RC location where Chase is dipping JoJo!

After lots of searching and then looking at Argentina only since dune buggy s/caps showed Uruguay likely before Argentina I searched  inlaid marble floors Buenos Aires in Argentina and a photo came up that I thought looked like the design in the s/caps below and I think it is the Great Hall of Honor at the Palacio Paz in Buenos Aires, Argentina! I am hoping this is the location because my brain is fried.  

Great Hall of Honor


https://theeclecticdilettante.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/palacio-paz/

http://www.themodernnomad.com/buenos-aires-in-four-days/

AllAboutLove wrote:Going through s/caps to sleuth locations and still haven't matched the location of these ones.
I think it is Argentina or Uruguay rather than Thailand or US based on number of roses (so RC prior to HTDs).

JoJo in building - aerial view
 
lightened here by me

JoJo in building - 2 roses on table, Chase dipping JoJo - may have got first rose at RC.

JoJo in dress in building - 3 roses on table

https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t3504p12-the-bachelorette-season-12-jojo-fletcher-no-spoilers-scaps-media-sleuthing-no-discussion

Thanks for the clarification AAL. 

The shape of the guys head and back on the stairs seems to be Jordan also.

I wonder why they are in some sort of back alley to make out though 

Forgive me if I'm wrong - but if I recall correctly (I think I read it in the discussion (no spoiler thread), that bachette and bach aus finished filming around the same time.

Now I haven't sleuthed anything for Bach AU, but I did read an article about the finale possibly being in Thailand (sleuthers of Bach AU, is this correct?). As the same production company now runs both shows, it would make total sense for them to cut costs and film both FD and Finales in the same location. So I am all for the FD - F1 to be in Thailand!

So I am trying to figure out if Argentina is the F8 to F6 episode or the F6 to F4 episode because either would put three roses on the table. If it's F6 to F4, then there would only be one rose on a date; but if it's F8 to F6, there would be roses on a GD, a one-on-one (which looks like Jordan) and a two-on-one. Which still leaves three roses to give out.

That said, I think the blue dress that JoJo is wearing in the dipping picture is the same one that she's crying hysterically in from the promo (the blue one). So I think something big must go down during that RC.

kimberlyg wrote:So I am trying to figure out if Argentina is the F8 to F6 episode or the F6 to F4 episode because either would put three roses on the table.  If it's F6 to F4, then there would only be one rose on a date; but if it's F8 to F6, there would be roses on a GD, a one-on-one (which looks like Jordan) and a two-on-one.  Which still leaves three roses to give out.

That said, I think the blue dress that JoJo is wearing in the dipping picture is the same one that she's crying hysterically in from the promo (the blue one).  So I think something big must go down during that RC.

The dress in the crying scene is the same colour, but is totally different.  The one above is a halter top with sparkles along the top.  The one in the airplane hangar has shoulder straps and plunges in a very deep V. (She loves to show her boobs off).

Nice job on the watch and RC location @AllAboutLove ! I thought it was Chase just because of the hair. Jordan's top is much longer and we've seen it flop around. I'm ignoring scruff because after awhile it all looks the same! Great to have it confirmed with solid proof!

This is my fave thread ! You guys rock!

It's interesting that Jo has her F4-F3 RC in Argentina (Great job, @AllAboutLove). If the HTDs precede that RC and were in the US, then that's a heck of a distance to travel to let go of someone!

It's making me wonder if something happens in Argentina and she leaves a RC not handing out 3 roses. It might explain the Chase screencap of him dipping a seemingly sad JoJo with two visible roses still on the table...

If not that, then do HTDs happen at F5?