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Post by Love_Me Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:53 am

So I came across this tweet today and wrote this person for clarity:

They wrote.....

I'm in a HUGE predicament right now. This woman I work with knows who the winner of the #bachelorette is. Do I or don't I want to know?

So I asked them....

Does your friend know who the winner is from reading spoiler sites or are they friends with the contestant that wins?

They then tweeted me back the following....

They are friends of a friend who knows the contestant personally


This person lives in Long Island, New York. The same city J.P currently lives in.
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Post by terabithia Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:16 am

Wow Love_Me, that is HUGE. At first I thought "Oh maybe she knows JP but she knows he's F2... and he told her it was Ben? Hmmmm..."

but then I read what she tweeted you: "knows _the_ contestant personally." The use of the word THE implies THE winner, not just she's a friend of a contestant on the show and heard the winner through him. ETA: I see you set that question up perfectly too, you asked if the friend knows _the_ contestant who wins and her response basically confirmed yes, the winner. GOOD JOB!

interesting....
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Post by nutty1 Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:13 am

Amazing that the 5 million dollar penalty just doesn't seem to scare these people anymore. Do you think they really tell people they won??


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Post by terabithia Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:37 am

nutty1 wrote:Amazing that the 5 million dollar penalty just doesn't seem to scare these people anymore. Do you think they really tell people they won??

It might depend on a need to know basis. I wonder if Roberto told any of his State Farm superiors to explain why he immediately needed to find a new office opening in California (because he promised Ali he'd move to California right away) even though they had already given him an established office to take over in South Carolina. He admits he told his family right away.

Maybe this person's friend works with JP and knows because of job issues related to him being F1.

Or maybe this person is just pretending to know to drive people crazy and seem important.

Oh, I'm also reminded of the Jason/Fort mess during DeAnna's season. This is how I remember it, some of which is probably wrong: Someone on Fort knew Jason Mesnick and Jason told her he was F1. (Or maybe the Forter knew Jason's relative and the relative was told by Jason he was F1. I forget details.) This is why some sleuthers on Fort were so confident Jason was with DeAnna, they considered it rock solid info because it reportedly came from Jason himself. Oh man, they were so convinced it was Jason they had conspiracy theories after the finale aired to explain Jason was chosen first and then DeAnna changed her mind (pulled a Mesnick before the real Mesnick!) so they filmed the FRC again blah blah blah. Later the explanation came out that Jason was instructed by TPTB to tell people he was F1, but I don't know how much of all this was true, from beginning to end. Maybe someone who was on the inside over at Fort can explain how it all went down from their point of view. Was Jason really told to lie, or did someone make that up?
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Post by Kashathediva Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:46 am

Just don't let this blindside you. I am not saying the interpretation of JP winning is true or not.
But saying they are "friends with a friend who knows"---I have heard this, too.(from 2 separate camps) It's nothing to hang your hat by.
His enclave is very tight around JP. Let's keep chinking away!! Good find Love_Me!!!
It would be great if we could follow his work situation--see if he has some absences from his work sites for days on a consistent basis. Basically, he is either there with the crews--or where? 👅 I am trying to follow this path.



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Post by nutty1 Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:01 am

You are good Kasha....and the voice of reason!


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"God puts the right people in our lives when the timing is just right." - Jef
"Love is everything it's cracked up to be…It really is worth fighting for, being brave for, risking everything for" - Nick
"What I felt for you was greater than a moment" - Nick
"I knew I loved you right away & I didn't even know why" - Ben
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Post by Beeleever Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:53 am

Kashathediva wrote:Just don't let this blindside you. I am not saying the interpretation of JP winning is true or not.
But saying they are "friends with a friend who knows"---I have heard this, too.(from 2 separate camps) It's nothing to hang your hat by.
His enclave is very tight around JP. Let's keep chinking away!! Good find Love_Me!!!
It would be great if we could follow his work situation--see if he has some absences from his work sites for days on a consistent basis. Basically, he is either there with the crews--or where? 👅 I am trying to follow this path.

Great post Kash. So impressed by your sleuthing skills, Love Me. A couple of thoughts...JP is one of the most transparent guys in the house. It is possible the friend of the tweeter thinks they know based on his demeanor. Because he is truly "whooped" as far as his feelings for Ashley go, he is either elated and glowing or crushed with a broken heart. They may be basing their information not on JP spilling the beans and risking a lawsuit, but rather what they see from him, or don't see from him. Either way, I don't think the tweets as they are stated, tell us one way or the other, but they do give us one more piece to the puzzle. A puzzle that will turn out to have JP or Ben's face on it. Thanks for your continued diligence, Love Me. :awesome:
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Post by Alanna Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:47 am

Thanks so much for all your work Love! I agree with Bee and Kasha that it's probably not that he "told" but that his demeanor or behavior is giving him away one way or another.


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Post by mnmhughes Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:52 am

Alanna wrote:Thanks so much for all your work Love! I agree with Bee and Kasha that it's probably not that he "told" but that his demeanor or behavior is giving him away one way or another.

That, or continued absences from work. I never did understand how people got away with that and no one noticed. scratch :A-okay:
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Post by anders Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:00 am

wait a sec - is there real life evidence that JP is F1?


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Post by nutty1 Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:02 am

Not other than RS's claim.


"My goal in life is to be as good of a person as my dogs already think I am"    
"God puts the right people in our lives when the timing is just right." - Jef
"Love is everything it's cracked up to be…It really is worth fighting for, being brave for, risking everything for" - Nick
"What I felt for you was greater than a moment" - Nick
"I knew I loved you right away & I didn't even know why" - Ben
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Post by anders Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:05 am

cool beans - I'm not convinced, especially after JPs edit this week and Ash hanging out with Ben F at the orphange.


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