Bachelor 25 - Matt James - Mar 15 (Finale) - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

She's really pouring it on.

I'm finding it hard to believe Rachael.

I’ve never believed a word out of Rachel’s mouth and have yet to see tear in her eye

OMG -- I don't see anyone else out there for me. Please. It's been a few months.

This is the most painful conversation to listen to. Not because it is a tough topic, but because these two are just spewing platitudes right and left. I should be feeling sorry for them and yet I'm left cold.

Matt wasn't having that final embrace.

Dag. Matt refused to even hug her.

iamreal2u wrote:Dag.  Matt refused to even hug her.

That seemed harsh. Matt is usually so aware of how he comes across. I wonder if there was even more that went down that we don't know about?

Does anyone know why Bri was not a part of the ATFR show ?

I wonder what exactly happened when they hashed this conversation out before the breakup.. Something major must have happened in my opinion

I said it from the very first episode that Racheal has a way of telling people what they want to hear.. Just like Matt. They always play the relatability card to put people at ease...

Sprite wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:Dag.  Matt refused to even hug her.

That seemed harsh. Matt is usually so aware of how he comes across. I wonder if there was even more that went down that we don't know about?

I think they both alluded to it. Rachael said to Emmanuel that she after put herself in Matt’s shoes she understood how much she hurt him, but didn’t at first, and described her reaction to the breakup as ‘blindsided’. Matt said what hurt him the most was having to explain to Rachael why what she did was problematic. Rachael’s mom did an interview a few days after the breakup and said or implied that if Matt really loved Rachael he would’ve stood by her. I’m getting the sense that that’s how Rachael felt as well, & she said as much to Matt. That’s not something I think Matt would’ve taken well. All jmo.

Matt should have never been chosen.. he wasn't ready for a relationship.. He used his parent's messy relationship to justify a lot of his decisions tonight.. He isnt ready for anything concrete... He needs therapy and a lot of time..