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Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

sdmom wrote:
Kashathediva wrote:Oh now I can sleep at night knowing Lauren Zima approves. I'm not saying this to any member here, but as far as I'm concerned, someone like LZ's opinion's shouldn't weigh anymore or less than anyone else's. JMOAA.  I tend to think she sways with the wind.


Exactly. Last season she is #teamPeter, #teamRachel, #teamBryan... you name it! She's #teamWhoeverGeneratesMoreViewersForMyShow, imo.


Okay.  I have not followed her for very long and I got the impression she was devastated that Peter was not the bachelor and seemed quite salty and irritated it was Arie not supporting him at all for his season. I don't care if she likes him or not but she has a lot of viewers.  It seemed like she was coming around to him but if she changes her opinions like the wind that is something to keep in mind.  Thanks.
by littlereddress
on Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:05 pm
 
Search in: Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM - Media
Topic: Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
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Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Kashathediva wrote:Oh now I can sleep at night knowing Lauren Zima approves. I'm not saying this to any member here, but as far as I'm concerned, someone like LZ's opinion's shouldn't weigh anymore or less than anyone else's. JMOAA.  I tend to think she sways with the wind.


Exactly. Last season she is #teamPeter, #teamRachel, #teamBryan... you name it! She's #teamWhoeverGeneratesMoreViewersForMyShow, imo.
by sdmom
on Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:37 pm
 
Search in: Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM - Media
Topic: Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
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Rachel Lindsay & Bryan Abasolo - FAN Forum - Discussion - #3

Aww, Alex just posted his formal congratulations on instagram (if someone could post it; maybe one day I will learn how) for Brachel, with hashtag #teamRachel, #teamBryan, and #teamBrachel. So loving all this support!
by Bookworm85
on Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:35 pm
 
Search in: Bachelorette 13 - Fan Forum Threads
Topic: Rachel Lindsay & Bryan Abasolo - FAN Forum - Discussion - #3
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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 10 FRC - Aug 7 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

agentcurls wrote:Great proposal. I thought it was heartfelt and could feel Bryan's sincerity. I'm interested to see what the future holds for Brachel. Will Bryan be as over-the-moon for The Bachelorette when she is just simply Rachel Lindsay? I look forward to seeing what happens next. They are equal parts cute/sexy together.

I have a different take on Peter...the psych degree in me sees Peter as very conflicted. IMO, He has some strong feelings about what went down in Spain & I think that anxiety and feeling of inadequacy made him do some controversial things post-filming ( SM activity & liking of derogatory comments) Yes, I think he should've taken a higher road but I feel he is a tormented soul with some kind of commitment-phobia (takes one to know one) and perhaps "soulmate-idealism" ...an ideal that Rachel could not live up to. I empathize with him as no one is perfect and this franchise will rock your soul to the core. I have a soft spot for him and am going to give him a pass. (I do wonder what it is about Bryan he didn't like? Did he see a side of him we didn't see?)

And I wish Rachel would've been more gracious and tender with Peter ATFR. I understand her frustration and appreciate her fiery-ness, but this was not the place/time. They shared something special (sorry-but no one can deny this) and she really diminished it to protect Bryan and perhaps her ego.  I felt bad that she was a victim to Peter's volatility but I don't think Peter was deliberately trying to mess with her head/heart in a mean-spirited way. I saw a lot of sexual tension between these two on the ATFR and based on Rachel's behavior towards him, she has it out for him. She seemed a little too vindictive for my liking....this is after she is supposed to basking in the glory of being able to share her HEA w/B & getting a ring put on it-FINALLY! Enjoy this moment..."your very best life" and don't be so hostile, girl! Smiley

So at the end of the day, I'm still #teamrachel and wish her and Bryan well but but this season was a little bit tainted for me. I wanted to love it but instead I just liked it, ya know?

I agree with her though that Peter is NOT READY to be the Bachelor. But why did Rachel say she didn't want her top 4 guys to be the Bachelor? Wasn't she one of Nick's top 4? Smiley    
I was pleased as punch that she got Alex's name out there as her choice for Bachelor 22. :yes: :yes:


Two words that set the tone for people reaction to Rachel. "Angry and attacked" I watched the ATFR several times to see where she was being angry and petty and did not see it, she was calm and gracious answering questions that she clearly did not want to answer especially having to repeat herself. Many heard CH say she was angry, so they precede her to be angry even though it didn't look that way. Peter said she attacking him because she said that the process isn't for him (how dare she say that to me when I worked hard at lying to get here) so many precede that she is attacking him JMO
by pbmax
on Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:46 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 10 FRC - Aug 7 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3
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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 10 FRC - Aug 7 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #3

Great proposal. I thought it was heartfelt and could feel Bryan's sincerity. I'm interested to see what the future holds for Brachel. Will Bryan be as over-the-moon for The Bachelorette when she is just simply Rachel Lindsay? I look forward to seeing what happens next. They are equal parts cute/sexy together.

I have a different take on Peter...the psych degree in me sees Peter as very conflicted. IMO, He has some strong feelings about what went down in Spain & I think that anxiety and feeling of inadequacy made him do some controversial things post-filming ( SM activity & liking of derogatory comments) Yes, I think he should've taken a higher road but I feel he is a tormented soul with some kind of commitment-phobia (takes one to know one) and perhaps "soulmate-idealism" ...an ideal that Rachel could not live up to. I empathize with him as no one is perfect and this franchise will rock your soul to the core. I have a soft spot for him and am going to give him a pass. (I do wonder what it is about Bryan he didn't like? Did he see a side of him we didn't see?)

And I wish Rachel would've been more gracious and tender with Peter ATFR. I understand her frustration and appreciate her fiery-ness, but this was not the place/time. They shared something special (sorry-but no one can deny this) and she really diminished it to protect Bryan and perhaps her ego.  I felt bad that she was a victim to Peter's volatility but I don't think Peter was deliberately trying to mess with her head/heart in a mean-spirited way. I saw a lot of sexual tension between these two on the ATFR and based on Rachel's behavior towards him, she has it out for him. She seemed a little too vindictive for my liking....this is after she is supposed to basking in the glory of being able to share her HEA w/B & getting a ring put on it-FINALLY! Enjoy this moment..."your very best life" and don't be so hostile, girl! Smiley

So at the end of the day, I'm still #teamrachel and wish her and Bryan well but but this season was a little bit tainted for me. I wanted to love it but instead I just liked it, ya know?

I agree with her though that Peter is NOT READY to be the Bachelor. But why did Rachel say she didn't want her top 4 guys to be the Bachelor? Wasn't she one of Nick's top 4? Smiley    
I was pleased as punch that she got Alex's name out there as her choice for Bachelor 22. :yes: :yes:
by agentcurls
on Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:56 am
 
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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #14

bleuberry wrote:What I find interesting is that people have sort of shifted their snark from Bryan to Rachel. He's already way more likeable than he was on the show and it's nice to hear him speak outside of cliché platitudes. Rachel on the other hand couldn't have been on a higher pedestal with everyone (viewers, celebs, media, TPTB ) singing her praises. Her fall has been kinda sad - some of it self-inflicted, some if it not. JMO.



Rachel's "fall" has less to do with who she is as a person and more to do with people unhappiness with the outcome of a reality dating show. Rachel is still exactly who she has always been.  People were willing to love her and shower her with platitudes as long as she did what they wanted her to do.  That love for her was all artificial.

IMO Rachel is now free to drop the deadweight of fairweather friends and fans for those who really are #teamrachel and support her. I saw some idiot call her the most hated Bachelorette - hated- really because she didnt pick Peter?! laugh out loud who needs a "fan" like that. Rachel can tell them all FOH!

People aren't perfect and pedestals aren't safe...one wrong move and a nasty tumble is sure to follow. Peter should be well advised on that if he's the next Bachelor.
by sfrank
on Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:37 am
 
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Topic: Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #14
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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - Episode 10 FRC - Aug 7 - *Sleuthing Spoilers* #2

Aria wrote:
AllAboutLove wrote:no no SM is dragging Rachel and Bryan. Disgusts me how so many crazed Peter fans will cape for some white midwest dude who "models" and turn on the first black bachelorette no


I always knew that the so-called "Pachel" fans would turn on Rachel in a heartbeat if she ever dared to cross their precious Peter. Bachelor/ette fans are so predictable. IMO.


Yea, so much for #teamrachelalways. It's more like #teamrachel only as long as she picks who I want her to. Rolling Eyes

JMO
by Ladybug82
on Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:14 pm
 
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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #3

I started watching this season not really having any interest in Rachel as a lead, but she has really won me over! She's smart, articulate, and keeps it real 100%. I am rooting for her and I want her to be happy by the end of all this mess.

I think she's smart enough to make good choices for her self, and I trust her judgment.

Peter on the other hand has really shocked me with his sm pettiness. It's not attractive and it screams insecurities.

#teamRachel Topics tagged under teamrachel on bachandbachettefans.net 1f493
by missnana
on Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:22 am
 
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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - SM Media - *Sleuthing Spoilers* Discussion - #13

Alanna wrote:
lleyki wrote:
Alanna wrote:Yeah I'm not into the half naked selfies either but okay I guess. He is hot.

Honestly, I don't know if it's because I used to follow Derek Hough and Val Chmerkovskiy from DWTS whose posts were 90 percent shirtless workout photos, that I didn't even blink seeing this picture. Hell I practically scrolled past before even realizing that's what was posted.

Fair but they're in entertainment, that's their job and livelihood. Bryan is a chiropractor. The selfies with the deep thoughts aren't a good look imo. Not the worst but he's not some amazing, perfect man either so far by his sm imo. I'm just hopeful he's a sane, reasonable, mature man who won't let rachel down.


This is what I hope for Rachel, too. At the end of the day #teamRachel ~
by agentcurls
on Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:45 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

FashionLover wrote:
BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/


Isn't it interesting though that Bryan was never tagged or hashtagged on that post? just a thought


Wasn't that post in direct response to Petey's whinny post begging folks to stop being mean to him? giggling
by sfrank
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:27 pm
 
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Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8

BachIsMyGuiltyPleasure wrote:IMO Peter's view on Bryan is from living with him 24/7 and mirrors Rachel's own sister questioning his "sincerity factor" after meeting in him person... ours views are from an edited TV show and SM... that's the difference IMO.

Alex sums it up nicely.......

tinobordyJust a friendly reminder that if all conclusions were based purely on what we see with our eyes, and nothing else, we’d still believe the Earth is flat. A lot of my friends and people I respect, inevitably, have come under scrutiny. We are all adults that have consciously placed ourselves on display, fully aware of the consequences and repercussions; so, by no means is anyone a victim here. Nevertheless, even though everyone is entitled to their opinion, I do believe we can all appreciate if those opinions (good or bad) were based on something more than just vague glimpses and alternative facts. The grounds behind many of the divisive decisions are not always revealed, nor always accredited to the responsible factors and individuals. Just keep in mind, even if perception is reality, portrayal is not a perspective, as you’re watching a TV show. Thanks! #asseenontv #thebachelorette #alternativefacts #teamrachel #teampeter #teamdean #portrayalisnotaperspective #theearthisround #sorrykyrie
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtTg1-lKr8/


My thing is, if he wasn't into Rachel, why not leave and let Dean and some of the others stay because they were into her. Don't come on to play with her because of ulterior motives. A little selfish.
by pbmax
on Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:01 pm
 
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Topic: Peter Kraus - Bachelorette 13 - **Sleuthing Spoilers** - #8
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