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The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - Social Media - Media - Discussion - Sleuthing - Spoilers - #4

and here is the SOCIAL MEDIA sweet REHABILITATION attack in full gear!!!! IMO

at the same time, jojo and jordan are making sure to show perfect images, nice, sweet, easy, fun, kind, adorable. IMO

Producers are so predictable. IMO.

After this major tabloid RAYA and co dirty mess.... what is the best response? IMO

yep. we have it plain, front and center... after weeks of silence from Jordan . IMO

Sorry, but I do not buy it. {#}fake{/#} {#}actors{/#} {#}manipulation{/#}

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

relaxing wrote:
Fingersandtoes wrote:
HEA wrote:

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

#EDITS #ACTORS

Yeah. I'm suspecting a pre planned sl, tbh. JoJo just happened to meet Jordan's ex who knew JoJo, and that Jordan was on the show etc. and they got to talking about Jordan's cheating ways. But JoJo didn't know anything about Jordan before the show, right? Actors, both of them. Jmo.

To me this doesn't make sense for 2 reasons:

1) Jordan looks like he's going to pass out. Def not acting IMO. He didn't see that question coming and looks caught red handed like crap how do I make myself look good here. He looks guilty and sick IMO. That's no act but a guy who is very aware he is on tv IMO.

2) Why would Jordan and Jojo agree to act out a plot that makes them both look bad? Hey Jojo, will you question this guys motives, talk about worrying that your gut doesn't trust him and then look dumb by picking him anyway and pretend to be a happy couple. And hey Jordan we're going to question you about your cheating ways on national tv while you are trying to get into a broadcasting career, OK? Who would agree to act that out. Doesn't make any sense IMO.

If they were putting on an act wouldn't they act like the happiest, most meant to be couple evahhhh to generate post show opportunities? This actors idea doesn't make much sense to me. JMO.

It is interesting the timing. That RS comes out with his "story" then this clip comes out. All of this would lead one to think Jojo is going to wise up to Jordan. I don't know. Seems like a perfect set up for a foiler coming our way. If only something post show could point to that.

Is this the episode where she leans into him and says................"you make me sooooooooooooo happy"?

If so, then she bought his BS, hook, line and sinker!

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

relaxing wrote:
Fingersandtoes wrote:
HEA wrote:

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

#EDITS #ACTORS

Yeah. I'm suspecting a pre planned sl, tbh. JoJo just happened to meet Jordan's ex who knew JoJo, and that Jordan was on the show etc. and they got to talking about Jordan's cheating ways. But JoJo didn't know anything about Jordan before the show, right? Actors, both of them. Jmo.

To me this doesn't make sense for 2 reasons:

1) Jordan looks like he's going to pass out. Def not acting IMO. He didn't see that question coming and looks caught red handed like crap how do I make myself look good here. He looks guilty and sick IMO. That's no act but a guy who is very aware he is on tv IMO.

2) Why would Jordan and Jojo agree to act out a plot that makes them both look bad? Hey Jojo, will you question this guys motives, talk about worrying that your gut doesn't trust him and then look dumb by picking him anyway and pretend to be a happy couple. And hey Jordan we're going to question you about your cheating ways on national tv while you are trying to get into a broadcasting career, OK? Who would agree to act that out. Doesn't make any sense IMO.

If they were putting on an act wouldn't they act like the happiest, most meant to be couple evahhhh to generate post show opportunities? This actors idea doesn't make much sense to me. JMO.

It is interesting the timing. That RS comes out with his "story" then this clip comes out. All of this would lead one to think Jojo is going to wise up to Jordan. I don't know. Seems like a perfect set up for a foiler coming our way. If only something post show could point to that.

It makes no sense. She clearly doesn't believe him. Would she really get serious with Jordan when she believes he has cheating past, after her ex Chad? It seems like producers contacted Brittany after her IG post, but why would JoJo pick him?

I'm voting she doesn't pick anyone in the end. Jmo.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

[mention]Fingersandtoes[/mention] wrote:
[mention]HEA[/mention] wrote:
[mention]Fingersandtoes[/mention] wrote:I don't claim to know JoJo, but to me her whole demeanour and facial expression says, that she thinks he's full of bs. And he's a lousy actor.

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

{#}EDITS{/#} {#}ACTORS{/#}

Yeah. I'm suspecting a pre planned sl, tbh. JoJo just happened to meet Jordan's ex who knew JoJo, and that Jordan was on the show etc. and they got to talking about Jordan's cheating ways. But JoJo didn't know anything about Jordan before the show, right? Actors, both of them. Jmo.

To me this doesn't make sense for 2 reasons:

1) Jordan looks like he's going to pass out. Def not acting IMO. He didn't see that question coming and looks caught red handed like crap how do I make myself look good here. He looks guilty and sick IMO. That's no act but a guy who is very aware he is on tv IMO.

2) Why would Jordan and Jojo agree to act out a plot that makes them both look bad? Hey Jojo, will you question this guys motives, talk about worrying that your gut doesn't trust him and then look dumb by picking him anyway and pretend to be a happy couple. And hey Jordan we're going to question you about your cheating ways on national tv while you are trying to get into a broadcasting career, OK? Who would agree to act that out. Doesn't make any sense IMO.

If they were putting on an act wouldn't they act like the happiest, most meant to be couple evahhhh to generate post show opportunities? This actors idea doesn't make much sense to me. JMO.

It is interesting the timing. That RS comes out with his "story" then this clip comes out. All of this would lead one to think Jojo is going to wise up to Jordan. I don't know. Seems like a perfect set up for a foiler coming our way. If only something post show could point to that.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

HEA wrote:
Fingersandtoes wrote:I don't claim to know JoJo, but to me her whole demeanour and facial expression says, that she thinks he's full of bs. And he's a lousy actor.

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

#EDITS #ACTORS

Yeah. I'm suspecting a pre planned sl, tbh. JoJo just happened to meet Jordan's ex who knew JoJo, and that Jordan was on the show etc. and they got to talking about Jordan's cheating ways. But JoJo didn't know anything about Jordan before the show, right? Actors, both of them. Jmo.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

HEA wrote:
Fingersandtoes wrote:I don't claim to know JoJo, but to me her whole demeanour and facial expression says, that she thinks he's full of bs. And he's a lousy actor.

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

#EDITS #ACTORS

Yes nailed it! I predict he is going to get defensive and try to shift the blame to JoJo for even questioning him. He will make himself out to be the victim IMO and put JoJo in a losing situation. That is typical behavior of a man that is guilty and refuses to accept accountability for his actions.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

[mention]Fingersandtoes[/mention] wrote:I don't claim to know JoJo, but to me her whole demeanour and facial expression says, that she thinks he's full of bs. And he's a lousy actor.

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

{#}EDITS{/#} {#}ACTORS{/#}

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

So I check Fleiss twitters and tried to connect the dots. a couple of tweets made me think of a twist at the F3.

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so if we see the dates, we have 2 : April 26 and April 27

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please not that the long goodbye is AFTER THE tough night for jojo.

So is it possible that she eliminates Luke at F4, and Luke asks to see her again the following day?

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Then we have this on May 1 and May 4

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A possible theory is that she asks one of the F3 to go home during the Fantasy date and does not wait the RC for it. Of course since we have no SC of Jordan, it is possible that it is him? So far, the beaches are different on Hua Hin (dark sand) and Phucket (gold sand). The rocks are also more dry at one place and more vegetation in the other (my perception, not a fact).

The bridge is definitly Hua Hin (sorry to not be able to credit the person here who I am sure found out this ages ago). So we have ZERO SC of Pucket, except jojo walking which looks like her finale dress ceremony.

The tweet saying "feeling very good about jojo's chances of finding true love" .... TRUE love. Not that she already found it. And he used CHANCES. My take on this is that it was not a done deal from the start (Jordan) but came later. The word TRUE is interesting because I immediately associate it with FAKE. so she tookd chances for TRUE LOVE (chase or robby) and not FAKE LOVE (jordan). somehow I have a hard time to associate TRUE LOVE with jordan because he DOES NOT show her the same level of interest IMO.

So unless she decided to adopt one of the millions of poor street dog, she did something out of ordinary during that time. Could be a free pass for the rose ceremony for jordan? could be spending her night with him?

Many possibilities too I agree. But the rejection can be one of them and it suit well in my theory

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This said. my theory is that we will see Robby and Chase.

so who is F1? no idea

Robby:
- lust
- hidden connection
- robby IG after show
- jojo words AFTER show (dress taste, discovered robby at the fire GD)
- robby ITM from the first episode
- robby took a lot of importance on ep5 after the chad drama (first 1:1), got the rose at ep6 (as per RS) and then homedates. But during the chad drama, he was there, we just did not see him much except the letter (thanks Mia) at the pool GD, and the make up session on the poll table which was for most a WTH moment about 'who is this guy?'
- jojo narration: my own love story now and we see jojo and robby jumping (reminds me of jumping for a leap of faith kinda)
- firewords walk and 'magic' word used by jojo

Chase:
- quiet on SM but not too quiet
- outside the yoga at 1:1, pool GD and thailand.
- A hot kiss on the sea (F1 are often seen making out in water/sea at the FD
- narration and connection with Chase face (found connection)
- fake snow special moment at episode 2 when he had ZERO moment with jojo (takes material and preparation for this kind of date)
- see jojo jumping on chase arms on top of mountain and picnic (reminds me Jef with one F date)

As far for Jordan, I think he was never F1 and because he IS single, he played with RAYA. So not the bad guy, just back to his playing games to hook up with girls. The guy proved he was not smart at all by poking Chad with his political tweet and since Chad posted this {#}ACTORS{/#} reply so if he re-opened his dating account that is another proof that he is dumb IMO he is having a very low profile... even more since yesterday.

Also jojo repeating that she is often falling for the bad guys.... plurial, not only chad IMO and pointing to the direction that she feel for jordan, but then no more.

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OF COURSE, it is a JUST a theory ... that will be definitely pointed with many clues that I am wrong. But why not? anything goes with the edits right?

I do not dismissed that we saw jojo and jordan tweeting at almost the same time and see both at the LA airport. Then my theory will go totally up to flames! and Jordan is confirmed to change his name permanently for Jordouche

ALL of this is JMO

note: please bear with me if anyone on this board thought of any of what I am saying here. Although I like this forum very very much, I cannot read the hundred of posts and I joined the party later. So any comment that was already shared and discussed does not mean I want to appropriate the discussion or clue, it just means that we think alike. thank you

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #2

[mention]Georgia Lindsay[/mention] wrote:
[mention]HEA[/mention] wrote:This season will end ugly and worse, got this feeling

It will be interesting if they interview Chad after the finale with the spoiled F1 pick. Doubt he'll hold back? That hashtag on that tweet {#}Actors{/#}, ouch, I bet Fleiss flipped his lid when he saw it and threatened to sue Chad??

fleiss said that chad reminds him of him.................. I am sure he is happy about the mess.... mess = more viewers = $$$

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #2

HEA wrote:This season will end ugly and worse, got this feeling

It will be interesting if they interview Chad after the finale with the spoiled F1 pick. Doubt he'll hold back? That hashtag on that tweet #Actors, ouch, I bet Fleiss flipped his lid when he saw it and threatened to sue Chad??