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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #3

[mention]makeover[/mention] wrote:I hope this is the right place to post this. If not, feel free to move it, Mods. Smiley

Someone mentioned Olena from the Richie's season of Bachelor AU in the episode discussion and in some way the situation between Bryan vs. Peter reminds me of what went down with Alex vs. Nikki (assuming Bryan is the F1 here). All season long, Nikki was portrayed as the perfect woman (I adored her myself and was {#}teamNikki{/#}), whereas Alex was edited as this weird, possessive, stage 5 clinger who cries all the time. The media and some of the audience ragged on Alex every week, from the chocolate bath date to her "seducing" Richie during the blindfold GD, to her being inorganic with some of the things she said on screen. (Bryan, thankfully, hasn't gotten half the heat Alex got during her time on the show). Then the finale came and there was outrage everywhere that Richie chose Alex and a lot of nasty things were said of both of them. And I was heartbroken for Nikki. However, in hindsight, I totally get now why Richie would choose Alex. Even during the show, non-bias sleuthers noticed that Richie was more physically attracted to Alex than Nikki. And after the show, it was so obvious they are more suited for each other in their personalities than Richie will ever be with Nikki.

In the end, the lead will choose who they can click with the most, no matter how perfect the other suitor may appear on the show/ on paper. I am not saying Bryan is getting or will get Alex's horrible edit, but I hope he would not have to take as much heat as Alex did when she "won". All JMO and observations.


Although I did not watch Richie season as I had no attraction to him whatsoever. I read many comments about how the fans were upset he did not pick perfect on paper Nikki. I get what you are saying. Each season we say the same thing, yet most people love one guy the most and therefore he MUST win and be F1... regardless of what the lead feels... regardless of the edits. Each season is the same.

Bryan is edited as a smooth hot operator. They removed every conversation so audience concentrate only on the physical aspect of their relationship. At 2 times, Bryan said clearly that Rachel had no problem to express herself and he did not mean IMHO physically. So it is all a matter of the script the prods want us to see. Some viewers will always think for face value that Bryan and Rachel never had an adult conversation outside of the kisses. Some will know but forget it and concentrate on what they see only. It is okay. Prods show us a story with one and will make a 180° with a second at the end. This happens each season IMO.

JMOAA
by Guest
on Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:26 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #3
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Bachelorette 13 - Rachel Lindsay - General Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* - #3

I hope this is the right place to post this. If not, feel free to move it, Mods. Smiley

Someone mentioned Olena from the Richie's season of Bachelor AU in the episode discussion and in some way the situation between Bryan vs. Peter reminds me of what went down with Alex vs. Nikki (assuming Bryan is the F1 here). All season long, Nikki was portrayed as the perfect woman (I adored her myself and was #teamNikki), whereas Alex was edited as this weird, possessive, stage 5 clinger who cries all the time. The media and some of the audience ragged on Alex every week, from the chocolate bath date to her "seducing" Richie during the blindfold GD, to her being inorganic with some of the things she said on screen. (Bryan, thankfully, hasn't gotten half the heat Alex got during her time on the show). Then the finale came and there was outrage everywhere that Richie chose Alex and a lot of nasty things were said of both of them. And I was heartbroken for Nikki. However, in hindsight, I totally get now why Richie would choose Alex. Even during the show, non-bias sleuthers noticed that Richie was more physically attracted to Alex than Nikki. And after the show, it was so obvious they are more suited for each other in their personalities than Richie will ever be with Nikki.

In the end, the lead will choose who they can click with the most, no matter how perfect the other suitor may appear on the show/ on paper. I am not saying Bryan is getting or will get Alex's horrible edit, but I hope he would not have to take as much heat as Alex did when she "won". All JMO and observations.
by makeover
on Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:04 pm
 
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Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

AllAboutLove wrote:
Sundy wrote:After solid sleuthing from March this year it's nearly time to hang up my sleuthing lanyard for the year. It's been a great year. Awesome sleuthing with you all I have learnt so much. I will be live posting tonight just wanted to say see ya before it gets cray cray. #teampotato #teamnikki #teamlee. See you in 17

@Sundy bestbud! :thismuch: You are an incredible sleuther and I am in constant awe of you. You are the best! :frommeto  #teampotato #teamnikki #teamlee beatingheart

Want to say THANK YOU to everybody who's been posting the information! yes
by Maddy
on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:28 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3
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Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

Sundy wrote:After solid sleuthing from March this year it's nearly time to hang up my sleuthing lanyard for the year. It's been a great year. Awesome sleuthing with you all I have learnt so much. I will be live posting tonight just wanted to say see ya before it gets cray cray. #teampotato #teamnikki #teamlee. See you in 17


Thank you @Sundy for the masterclass in sleuthing - it's been enjoyable watching you in action. Thanks also to those who have live-blogged throughout the season.  

I look forward to getting in nice and early next season, when the contestants are known only by their BTS paparrazzi photos and hairstyles.  #teamwavylocksguy!
by Bobette
on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:28 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3
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Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

AllAboutLove wrote:
Sundy wrote:After solid sleuthing from March this year it's nearly time to hang up my sleuthing lanyard for the year. It's been a great year. Awesome sleuthing with you all I have learnt so much. I will be live posting tonight just wanted to say see ya before it gets cray cray. #teampotato #teamnikki #teamlee. See you in 17

@Sundy bestbud! :thismuch: You are an incredible sleuther and I am in constant awe of you. You are the best! :frommeto  #teampotato #teamnikki #teamlee beatingheart


Mutual awe my bud. I will miss you.
by Sundy
on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:23 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3
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Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

Sundy wrote:After solid sleuthing from March this year it's nearly time to hang up my sleuthing lanyard for the year. It's been a great year. Awesome sleuthing with you all I have learnt so much. I will be live posting tonight just wanted to say see ya before it gets cray cray. #teampotato #teamnikki #teamlee. See you in 17
@Sundy bestbud! :thismuch: You are an incredible sleuther and I am in constant awe of you. You are the best! :frommeto #teampotato #teamnikki #teamlee beatingheart
by AllAboutLove
on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:03 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3
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Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3

After solid sleuthing from March this year it's nearly time to hang up my sleuthing lanyard for the year. It's been a great year. Awesome sleuthing with you all I have learnt so much. I will be live posting tonight just wanted to say see ya before it gets cray cray. #teampotato #teamnikki #teamlee. See you in 17
by Sundy
on Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:54 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Australia - Georgia Love - Season 2 - Episode Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* #3
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Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Jasmine Lorimer - F1-F2 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

4health wrote:
LeapofFaith wrote:
4health wrote:
I am once again drawn in to this season since it's the first bachelorette canada.  I haven't participated in sleuthing/posting etc. since Tim/April season (including US series).    I enjoyed Richie's season and only posted once....I was #teamnikki which I usually do like F2 most the time.   I find it interesting that there isn't a true F3 yet through sleuthing.  

It's been a while since I wanted to put my thoughts of who is in F3.....I agree with GuardianAngel as of now with Kevin W leaving at F3, if the tptb are editing and producing like in the past (it's been a while to know for sure) the intro videos have been the key.  Mike and Mikhel both had videos and Kevin W didn't......can anyone give me an update if that is still something to keep in mind with Canada production team?  


Yeah good point I wonder if the Canada production team are editing the same as the Canada bachelor edit?? With mikhels music (for his limo entrance and kisses it reminds me of a next lead edit?) and I wonder with Kevin w limo music and first out of limo means anything? I also wonder how it was for the bachelor Canada with the girls and f1-3 edits? question  does anyone see similarities??


HI @LeapofFaith .... I think Mikhel is F3 and possible Lead because in the last episode on his 1:1, in a ITM he says "it's a real possibility that I am falling in love with jasmine" in the past the first to be seen saying that is never the F1 and usually the future lead because they fell so hard.  So that leaves us Kevin W and Mike IMO.....until sleuthing shows other wise.  Once again there has not been a F1 in Canada franchise that didn't have a intro video...so that leaves Mike and Kevin W is F2.   I like both of them but I like how Kevin W and Jasmine connected opening up.  His story arc is going to be his jealousy and it started last episode.  I don't see a story arc with Mike yet and last episode she really hadn't connected with him beyond his FIR.  So I look forward to seeing what happens next.


Been wanting to comment on this . YES to the bolded..and its actually applied on ALL premiere seasons* : Anna of Bach AU1, Bianka of Bach CA1, Matilda of Bach NZ1 and Sasha of BachetteAU1 all had their intro videos being shown . A way to get viewers more invested in the F1 and final couple, perhaps?.

*I will drop the links of past premiere seasons on this thread. yes
by Joy15
on Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:14 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Jasmine Lorimer - F1-F2 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
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Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Jasmine Lorimer - F1-F2 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

LeapofFaith wrote:
4health wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:With the recent sleuthing in Mike's thread, I'm going with Mike KevinW Mikhel with Mikhel as the next Bach!! That alone is exciting!

Wow, great work everyone! clapping!

I am once again drawn in to this season since it's the first bachelorette canada.  I haven't participated in sleuthing/posting etc. since Tim/April season (including US series).    I enjoyed Richie's season and only posted once....I was #teamnikki which I usually do like F2 most the time.   I find it interesting that there isn't a true F3 yet through sleuthing.  

It's been a while since I wanted to put my thoughts of who is in F3.....I agree with GuardianAngel as of now with Kevin W leaving at F3, if the tptb are editing and producing like in the past (it's been a while to know for sure) the intro videos have been the key.  Mike and Mikhel both had videos and Kevin W didn't......can anyone give me an update if that is still something to keep in mind with Canada production team?  


Yeah good point I wonder if the Canada production team are editing the same as the Canada bachelor edit?? With mikhels music (for his limo entrance and kisses it reminds me of a next lead edit?) and I wonder with Kevin w limo music and first out of limo means anything? I also wonder how it was for the bachelor Canada with the girls and f1-3 edits? question  does anyone see similarities??


HI @LeapofFaith .... I think Mikhel is F3 and possible Lead because in the last episode on his 1:1, in a ITM he says "it's a real possibility that I am falling in love with jasmine" in the past the first to be seen saying that is never the F1 and usually the future lead because they fell so hard.  So that leaves us Kevin W and Mike IMO.....until sleuthing shows other wise.  Once again there has not been a F1 in Canada franchise that didn't have a intro video...so that leaves Mike and Kevin W is F2.   I like both of them but I like how Kevin W and Jasmine connected opening up.  His story arc is going to be his jealousy and it started last episode.  I don't see a story arc with Mike yet and last episode she really hadn't connected with him beyond his FIR.  So I look forward to seeing what happens next.
by 4health
on Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:36 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Jasmine Lorimer - F1-F2 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
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Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Jasmine Lorimer - F1-F2 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

4health wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:With the recent sleuthing in Mike's thread, I'm going with Mike KevinW Mikhel with Mikhel as the next Bach!! That alone is exciting!

Wow, great work everyone! clapping!

I am once again drawn in to this season since it's the first bachelorette canada.  I haven't participated in sleuthing/posting etc. since Tim/April season (including US series).    I enjoyed Richie's season and only posted once....I was #teamnikki which I usually do like F2 most the time.   I find it interesting that there isn't a true F3 yet through sleuthing.  

It's been a while since I wanted to put my thoughts of who is in F3.....I agree with GuardianAngel as of now with Kevin W leaving at F3, if the tptb are editing and producing like in the past (it's been a while to know for sure) the intro videos have been the key.  Mike and Mikhel both had videos and Kevin W didn't......can anyone give me an update if that is still something to keep in mind with Canada production team?  


Yeah good point I wonder if the Canada production team are editing the same as the Canada bachelor edit?? With mikhels music (for his limo entrance and kisses it reminds me of a next lead edit?) and I wonder with Kevin w limo music and first out of limo means anything? I also wonder how it was for the bachelor Canada with the girls and f1-3 edits? question does anyone see similarities??
by LeapofFaith
on Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:57 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Jasmine Lorimer - F1-F2 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
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Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Jasmine Lorimer - F1-F2 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*

GuardianAngel wrote:With the recent sleuthing in Mike's thread, I'm going with Mike KevinW Mikhel with Mikhel as the next Bach!! That alone is exciting!

Wow, great work everyone! clapping!

I am once again drawn in to this season since it's the first bachelorette canada. I haven't participated in sleuthing/posting etc. since Tim/April season (including US series). I enjoyed Richie's season and only posted once....I was #teamnikki which I usually do like F2 most the time. I find it interesting that there isn't a true F3 yet through sleuthing.

It's been a while since I wanted to put my thoughts of who is in F3.....I agree with GuardianAngel as of now with Kevin W leaving at F3, if the tptb are editing and producing like in the past (it's been a while to know for sure) the intro videos have been the key. Mike and Mikhel both had videos and Kevin W didn't......can anyone give me an update if that is still something to keep in mind with Canada production team?
by 4health
on Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:21 pm
 
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Topic: Bachelorette Canada - Season 1 - Jasmine Lorimer - F1-F2 - *Sleuthing - Spoilers*
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Views: 33317

Nikki Gogan - Bill Coe - Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Fan Forum

Just some of the tons of posts regarding Nikki being F2 and viewers reactions and showing how they are invested in Nikki.
Some are too funny and others are so sad.
Nikki definitely struck a chord with viewers and she definitely is Australia's sweetheart and loved


Literally my face during The Bachelor  Topics tagged under teamnikki on bachandbachettefans.net 1f631  Topics tagged under teamnikki on bachandbachettefans.net 1f494 #TheBachelorAU #heartbroken #teamnikki #omg #icannot @thebachelorau by @mrsjfay


Nikki, you may not have won Ritchie's heart, however you won the heart of a nation  Topics tagged under teamnikki on bachandbachettefans.net 2764  Topics tagged under teamnikki on bachandbachettefans.net 2764  You should be so proud of yourself on how you conducted yourself through the whole show. Sending you a massive hug from all of Northam  #bachelor #teamnikki #northamlovesyou by @sportspowernortham



Noooooooo. Always Team Nikki. #teamnikki by @pippamoffatt


Think my little bro is more heartbroken than Nikki  Topics tagged under teamnikki on bachandbachettefans.net 1f494  #teamnikki #loveisdead #thebachelorau by @phatgrapes

The exact moment my heart broke #thebachelorau #teamnikki by @carolpak99


#omg #why #teamnikki #heartbroken #instagood #picoftheday #brisbane #thebachelorau by @annelyshh
by AllAboutLove
on Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:04 pm
 
Search in: BACHELOR - BACHELORETTE INTERNATIONAL FAN FORUM
Topic: Nikki Gogan - Bill Coe - Bachelor Australia - Season 4 - Fan Forum
Replies: 537
Views: 34662

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