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The Bachelorette Season 12 - Luke - FAN FORUM - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*
damn I am going to miss him for the next 6 months... I do not even dare to go to the thread next bachelor anymore since I posted the girl who auditioned.Yea.. I am truly committed to be un-spoiled
Who will join {#}theredzone{/#} outside hopeless and myself here ??
- on Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:09 pm
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The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #4
[mention]agentcurls[/mention] wrote:
Hi {@=12134}HEA{/@}, I found that FRC preview with all the VOs to be misleading (frankenbites).
When I listened very closely with headphones, this is what I came up with:[mention]agentcurls[/mention] wrote:FRC preview: green=words came out of mouth/red=VO
"I fell in love with you (facing him/hair in the face)
and I still love you, but (two hand hold)
what you did to me (facing him)
it's not right. (one hand hold)
but I want you to know (stroking underside of his arm)
that it's really hard for me (facing him but mouth is blocked)
to not accept this (two hand hold)
love." (wiping hair away from face)
Other possible interpretations: without frankenbites
To her F2:
"I fell in love with you, and I still love you...(blah blah blah other words...) but I want you to know that it's really hard for me to not accept this love."
To her F1 or additional F2:
"What you did to me.....(blah blah blah, more words).....love..."
What she is saying to a producer:
"I just said good bye to a man that I... love...it's not right."
*Also, I think the solo sunset walk with the bracelet worn is a red herring.
welcome {@=585}agentcurls{/@}
first wanted to tell you that I was a lurker on the un-spoiled and enjoyed to read you, as well as the other ladies. It happened most of the time when I was so unsure about a situation. It was very refreshing to read you all.
Second. I am committed in {#}TheRedZone{/#} next season. I think it will allow me to just share crazy possibilities and work as a teamwork on them, dissect them, get rid of most probably and just have fun. That is something I'm truly thrilled about. I was truly impressed how everyone were.
third. I am still wondering what she is holding in her hand when she is crying on top of the hill (tabloid or scrapbook). I am still wondering why we have this sunset walk with the thin bracelet messing her dress on the wet sand. I am still wondering why she looked so sedated when she said: I found it with a man who did not love me the way I said I wanted to be loved. It seems to be the undying love gift from robby (since she is saying no, is crying and is all dress up clean for a proposal) but did you guys figured it out?
Fourth. I am not sure they added a day off between each FS. Ali F said that those were taped back to back. And it makes sense as IMO for them time = $$.
{@=159}GuardianAngel{/@} shared a fantastic clue about infos regarding the pictures shared (jordan and robby walking to the altar) and identified that those pictures were taken May 12 within 1h07m apart
ETA: if the pictures were set with LA.... then FRC was done May 13 in Phuket... (thanks to Grace for pointing this!)
On camerasummary, I could verify that the time was indeed Los Angeles. So I went checking Phuket time when those pictures were taken to see if the FRC were taped at sunset or close to sunset and they were obviously not but mid-day. (I am thinking since it was a cloudy day -balcony with jordan with his RC suit on-, and since may is the wettest month in phuket -18days-, I think they could not tape the ceremony at sunset or they may did not take any chances because of possible rain - Source)
ROBBY
JORDAN
therefore we are far from the sunset walk with her bracelet and messing her FRC on the wet sand which is around 6:35pm.
i would like to include this sunset path with the FRC (minor detail, the slit is not on the right as when she walked the stairs and standing on top of the hill, so we have to mirror her path, so I am thinking she walked from the stairs/rocks to the other direction). So establishing that the time found by GA is the right time the picture were taken then it was mid-day, far from sunset...
1. If it was taped after FRC and she accepted Jordan's proposal... she should be over the moon happy. She is clearly not (and this could match the sedated jojo on her ITM).
2. If the segment was taped the day after to fill in the story, then why at sunset. I cannot believe that they would think it would make sense just to look pretty. To fit the script that she hesitated until the last minute, they would tape her walking on daylight.
3. If it was taped before FRC, then it cannot be the previous day with the same dress
My last question is the segment when she goes crying between the 2 buddas. If we look at the sky, is looks like it is more white with some pink reflection on her dress and the buddha face. Jordan's sky is white and Robby's sky is way bluer (you can see the different sky on the abc website). So I wonder if this segment was done at the end of FRC. We do not see her crying, we see her walking away with no shoes... the same way she is walking at sunset with no shoes on the wet sand. So is it possible that even if she said ILY to jordan, it is just a decoy for us to believe she accepted his proposal and she ended alone instead?
My scap from recorded TV
For me when she says: what you did to me... is just a way how she felt good with him (robby), the VO added is the conversation she had with jordan about not asking her dad's blessing. {#}Frankenbites{/#}
However, I am very interested to know why on ITM she looks sedated when she says,on her FRC dress with possible hair extension: I found it (love) with a man that will not be able to love me the way I said I wanted to be loved.
THAT for me is key to determine if she accepted Jordan's proposal.
EVERYTHING on this post is my opinion, my speculations TY
- on Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:15 pm
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The Bachelorette - Season 12 - JoJo Fletcher - General Discussion - *Sleuthing - Spoilers* - #4
hopelessly_devoted wrote:agentcurls wrote:Litta123 wrote:and the rest of the unspoiled as well. I learned so much seeing how both you and the others broke down the edit. Yes, a disappointing outcome for me (Oh, what could have been with Chase!
), but such a memorable and great experience with you guys! This is a season I'll remember...in spite of the outcome. Still gonna drink my Dark Horse wine Monday night.
Cheers to that, @Litta123! That Dark Horse wine sure sounds delicious!
Even being UNSPOILED, I found it rather difficult to stay objective. And tptb are getting even more savvy season after season with the tricky editing, that's for sure. It was a GREAT experience and the only thing that would make it even better is to have more of you come aboard the UNSPOILED train.
A couple of us who hangout a lot in Luke's fan thread are already committed to going UNSPOILED for The Bachelor! #TheRedZone
I was u spoiled for the first I think it was 4 episodes till one of the spoiled members posted there by mistake.
. However I could tell clear as day who the f1 was likely to be. Possibly the f3 also. In my mind the f2 and f4 were switched around TBH. the editors have not been sneaky in recent seasons. There are some common editing treads that we uncovered a few seasosn back and they have stuck with that pretty closely.Jmo.
But it would be very interesting to have more folks actively sleuth on that side.
TBH I preferred Sleuthing unspoiled on JaunPs season because that season we had spoiled folks bring Some SM ( like travel sightings etc) and other articles and backdrop across for us. Which is actually a huge part of the puzzle.
Bottom Line I just wish RS and his stuff could be far away with his spoilers and opinions. . I miss the old days.
Jmo.
- on Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:55 am
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