Search found 337 matches for 1

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Comparisons - SLEUTHING SPOILERS

Jed’s reaction to date. Watch the initial reaction “Yeah?” and then his secondary, delayed reaction.

Tyler’s reaction to his date card.

Mike’s reaction to his date card.

Also worth viewing is Jed’s shaking his head “No” when telling Hannah he feels the same way and is in love with her. At this point (episode 8), even though he told her in episode 7 that he was falling in love with her, IMO…his body language is showing the has NOT “fallen” yet. It will be interesting to see how his body language changes in these last few episodes.

via GIPHY

Episode #4, Hannah admitted Luke was her #1 but here in episode #8 she basically admits Jed is her #1. So Luke imploding helped propel Jed ahead. I wonder where Peter and Tyler were in her ranking. I think Mike was always #5 and Garret #6. And Connor should’ve stayed back in the US. Luke got a late 1-1 and it was a disaster. He never got a 2nd 1-1 but for some reason Hannah kept dragging him along.

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - Sleuthing Spoilers #6

U

Mia_Leoni wrote:If we think about it from an IRL perspective, it could happen that we have a guy in our social circle or radar that isn't our "first choice" when there are other options. Sometimes, it takes dating the loser who we treated as "first choice", to realize that third choice guy is who were looking for the whole time.

Isn't that what happens in rom coms, too (think When Harry Met Sally). Harry was not Sally's first choice, she needed to experience the man who looked perfect on paper, first.

This does not mean that third choice guy, in this case Tyler C., won't become Hannah's #1. It doesn't mean she respects him less because she went for Luke and Jed first. They are called exes for a reason.

^^^i'll have what she's having ^^^

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #3

HEA wrote:
Chgohighlife wrote:

Yesssssss...wisdom and kind insights from @HEA

People just seem to think that it’s all about Hannah. It’s not. Tyler is an accomplished, educated, handsome and honorable young man and frankly for anything more than an occasional date he deserves much better than Hot Mess Hannah, IMO. I completely agree she needs therapy, ASAP.

I really can’t believe how people are behaving toward Jed. They’re kinder toward murderers. He wasn’t married. He had a girlfriend. Men, especially that age leave one girlfriend for another everyday. This is all just overblown and stupid, IMO.

People can stop trying to save Hannah’s season. She turned it over to Luke week #1 and she co-starred and played the foil (aka fool) from that point to this so, I’m kicked back with a glass of wine and I’m here for it.

I think Haley went for her 5 min fame and she must be delighted that she caused the engagement breakup. The right thing to do would have contacting Hannah directly and in private. The only one concerned was Hannah and eventually Jed. I have zero respect for this girl who knew full well the damage she will bring. But since Hannah decided to share her love journey on national tv, and since Jed did not clean his private affairs the right way... so be it.

So Jed chooses to go on national television to pursue a woman and get engaged to her, all the while knowing he was fully involved with someone else and the woman is wrong for not handling the situation "privately". It hasn't been lost on me that some of the comments regarding Haley veer dangerously close to, "Jed and Hannah would be fine if she'd just kept her mouth shut".

So it would have been great for Hannah to continue on with a guy who has shown how not trustworthy he is. I swear I almost hear the Scooby Doo line in my head when I read some comments, i.e. "and we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids". Damn that woman for ruining the Hannah and Jed story with something as inconvenient as the truth.

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #3

HEA wrote:
Chgohighlife wrote:

Yesssssss...wisdom and kind insights from @HEA

People just seem to think that it’s all about Hannah. It’s not. Tyler is an accomplished, educated, handsome and honorable young man and frankly for anything more than an occasional date he deserves much better than Hot Mess Hannah, IMO. I completely agree she needs therapy, ASAP.

I really can’t believe how people are behaving toward Jed. They’re kinder toward murderers. He wasn’t married. He had a girlfriend. Men, especially that age leave one girlfriend for another everyday. This is all just overblown and stupid, IMO.

People can stop trying to save Hannah’s season. She turned it over to Luke week #1 and she co-starred and played the foil (aka fool) from that point to this so, I’m kicked back with a glass of wine and I’m here for it.

I think Haley went for her 5 min fame and she must be delighted that she caused the engagement breakup. The right thing to do would have contacting Hannah directly and in private. The only one concerned was Hannah and eventually Jed. I have zero respect for this girl who knew full well the damage she will bring. But since Hannah decided to share her love journey on national tv, and since Jed did not clean his private affairs the right way... so be it.

I totally disagree.

Whether or not Haley went and did this for the fame is irrelevant...Jed did too. Some media attention may have played a part, but she also appears to be pretty genuine in wanting to expose the real Jed and she has the document proof to back her up so she did what she needed to do....just like Jed did what he needed to do to get further with Hannah.

I don't get the vibe of a woman who is delighted that she is causing broken engagement. She simply appears to want Hannah to know how manipulative Jed is. More than likely, that would lead to Hannah breaking off the engagement, but I don't see Haley celebrating Hannah's distress. I see a pretty empathic woman.

As for contacting with Hannah privately...why would Hannah even listen to a stranger she doesn't know? Haley doesn't know how Hannah would react or if she would even listen...assuming she could even contact her privately.

Personally, the person I have zero respect for is Jed. He knew exactly what he was doing to Hannah. He was there for what went down. Haley wasn't. Jed decided to stay despite the fact that Hannah specifically spelled out that she didn't want someone there who had a girlfriend back home and wanted them to be honest with her. He failed on all fronts and if what Haley did caused Hannah to wake up to his manipulations and lies sooner that she normally would have...then regardless of Haley's motives...she did Hannah a huge favour.

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #3

[mention]Chgohighlife[/mention] wrote:

Yesssssss...wisdom and kind insights from {@=12134}HEA{/@}

People just seem to think that it’s all about Hannah. It’s not. Tyler is an accomplished, educated, handsome and honorable young man and frankly for anything more than an occasional date he deserves much better than Hot Mess Hannah, IMO. I completely agree she needs therapy, ASAP.

I really can’t believe how people are behaving toward Jed. They’re kinder toward murderers. He wasn’t married. He had a girlfriend. Men, especially that age leave one girlfriend for another everyday. This is all just overblown and stupid, IMO.

People can stop trying to save Hannah’s season. She turned it over to Luke week {#}1{/#} and she co-starred and played the foil (aka fool) from that point to this so, I’m kicked back with a glass of wine and I’m here for it.

I think Haley went for her 5 min fame and she must be delighted that she caused the engagement breakup. The right thing to do would have contacting Hannah directly and in private. The only one concerned was Hannah and eventually Jed. I have zero respect for this girl who knew full well the damage she will bring. But since Hannah decided to share her love journey on national tv, and since Jed did not clean his private affairs the right way... so be it.

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - General Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers #3

HEA wrote:IMO a lot of water went under the bridge since the finale. Tyler and Peter moved on like all the F3 and F2 of all seasons before this one. They went back to real world, got this inner sad time after the return and rejection, then family and friends helped them to put all that behind them and put the experience in perspective. all my opinion of course

I do not see Hannah changing here mind and switch to Tyler. She went thru a social media dirty break-up. she ended her engagement where she professed her love to Jed. Now she is in the anger stage after the sad teary stage. She is now in process to get rid of jed in every way she can. I believe she is this kind of girl who will get her revenge. The way she dismissed everybody who does not think like her, her tantrums on ITMs, that means to me that the taping breakup in Nashville is going to be messy.

She is in the middle of a rollercoaster to recover and no freaking way she is IMO thinking romantic hookup with Tyler. Furthermore, I think Tyler is over Hannah now. Probably still friend since I am pretty sure they had sex and this created a bond but other than that, I think he has a bright future in NYC... unless he gets tempted to be next bach. his choice. I hope he will think twice before accepting this poisoned proposition.

I think they all need a break, far from medias and far from this show. Jed, like @mommyof2 said will not recover until the show is over. I feel sad that social media is so nasty. Nobody deserves the hateful comments he is receiving. That is awful. For me, Jed is no different than millions of guys of his age and this is more a generation problem rather than an individual problem (MY opinion here). Hannah needs therapy.... ASAP. And I say that in the kindest way possible. Her priorities do not seem to be at the right place now.

I do believe Peter will be the next bach.

JMO

Yesssssss...wisdom and kind insights from @HEA

People just seem to think that it’s all about Hannah. It’s not. Tyler is an accomplished, educated, handsome and honorable young man and frankly for anything more than an occasional date he deserves much better than Hot Mess Hannah, IMO. I completely agree she needs therapy, ASAP.

I really can’t believe how people are behaving toward Jed. They’re kinder toward murderers. He wasn’t married. He had a girlfriend. Men, especially that age leave one girlfriend for another everyday. This is all just overblown and stupid, IMO.

People can stop trying to save Hannah’s season. She turned it over to Luke week #1 and she co-starred and played the foil (aka fool) from that point to this so, I’m kicked back with a glass of wine and I’m here for it.

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - Sleuthing Spoilers #6

Chgohighlife wrote:IMO Hannah sacrificed her whole season in pursuit of Luke. Always questioning the others about what was said to or about him. Giving him so much precious time to lie his way out of what the entire house was telling her about him. Trying to understand why NONE of the other men liked or respected him. Being upset and crying and canceling more than one cocktail party because of her own stubborn refusal to just get rid of him simply because she couldn’t figure him out. She’s not an experienced, savvy girl. There are plenty of men she can’t figure out. But, she couldn’t let him go. Sooooo...
Men being angry at Luke because of things said and done and her resulting upset and mood and less time to spend with her. This entire season so far has been as much his as hers and every other BN lead
has said tptb let them send whomever they wanted home. Every other lead sent the most disruptive influence home. IMO Luke was #1, Jed was #2 and Tyler was a distant 3rd. That’s why my advice to him is to run. Be nice. Be supportive. But, #3 after the first two literally blew up in Hannah’s face - is just not good enough. All IMO.

Completely agree. I think all of Tyler's posts defending Hannah is just him being Tyler. I can't read more into his posts nor his playlist. I'm just waiting how it all plays out.

Hannah is now playing and riding into all the Tyler hoopla. She made the post last but nothing special about their HTD. Party? She could have posted something meaningful like the house in Jupiter. All her posts has something related to the guys passions and Tyler is party? Like he's just sone party boy?? Confused.

The post about Jed though?

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - Sleuthing Spoilers #6

IMO Hannah sacrificed her whole season in pursuit of Luke. Always questioning the others about what was said to or about him. Giving him so much precious time to lie his way out of what the entire house was telling her about him. Trying to understand why NONE of the other men liked or respected him. Being upset and crying and canceling more than one cocktail party because of her own stubborn refusal to just get rid of him simply because she couldn’t figure him out. She’s not an experienced, savvy girl. There are plenty of men she can’t figure out. But, she couldn’t let him go. Sooooo...
Men being angry at Luke because of things said and done and her resulting upset and mood and less time to spend with her. This entire season so far has been as much his as hers and every other BN lead
has said tptb let them send whomever they wanted home. Every other lead sent the most disruptive influence home. IMO Luke was #1, Jed was #2 and Tyler was a distant 3rd. That’s why my advice to him is to run. Be nice. Be supportive. But, #3 after the first two literally blew up in Hannah’s face - is just not good enough. All IMO.

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - Sleuthing Spoilers #6

Mia_Leoni wrote:If we think about it from an IRL perspective, it could happen that we have a guy in our social circle or radar that isn't our "first choice" when there are other options. Sometimes, it takes dating the loser who we treated as "first choice", to realize that third choice guy is who were looking for the whole time.

Isn't that what happens in rom coms, too (think When Harry Met Sally). Harry was not Sally's first choice, she needed to experience the man who looked perfect on paper, first.

This does not mean that third choice guy, in this case Tyler C., won't become Hannah's #1. It doesn't mean she respects him less because she went for Luke and Jed first. They are called exes for a reason.

Yep. I've got a high school friend that was adamant that this guy was "just a friend". She wanted to date someone else, even fantasizing about marrying the guy. I knew this guy from college and felt it would never happen but let her have her dream. Friend guy stayed the friend. They hung out with others from their training class. One weekend he went visit her in Chicago so they could make plans for a group trip to Hawaii that followed a seminar they and several others were going to. She had a medical issue that weekend and he took care of her. Her whole world was turned upside down and she realized what a gem she had kept at an arm's length for several years. I spent the weekend with her in January. This weekend was in March. By summer she knew he was the one she would marry and they got married 18 months later and have been married 27 years.

Every person's experiences in love are different. If Hannah and Tyler are meant to be, they are meant to be. If they aren't, they aren't.

I just hope that if they do decide to move forward, they do what Jason and Molly did. Dating with no engagement. Let the engagement happen when it feels right. Jason and Molly did know within months they wanted to be together and were married about a year after the ATFR where she agreed to date him.

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - Media - SM - Sleuthing Spoilers #6

If we think about it from an IRL perspective, it could happen that we have a guy in our social circle or radar that isn't our "first choice" when there are other options. Sometimes, it takes dating the loser who we treated as "first choice", to realize that third choice guy is who were looking for the whole time.

Isn't that what happens in rom coms, too (think When Harry Met Sally). Harry was not Sally's first choice, she needed to experience the man who looked perfect on paper, first.

This does not mean that third choice guy, in this case Tyler C., won't become Hannah's #1. It doesn't mean she respects him less because she went for Luke and Jed first. They are called exes for a reason.

Bachelorette 15 - Luke Parker - Sleuthing Spoilers

Chgohighlife wrote:
Just Looking wrote:@Chgohighlife I think you are spot on

Thank you so much, @Just Looking

As it happens, I’m not feeling bad for or, proud of Hannah in any way. She’s a very confused young woman who needs to analyze and correct her behavior, her misconceptions and her stubbornness. Luke brought out the worst in her but, that’s a good thing because now she can self-assess and self-correct. I believe jumping into another relationship or blaming ABC or Jed or Luke would prevent her from learning the lessons these mistakes are trying to teach.

IMO Luke is not worth any effort. When your distorted views and emotional dysfunction is based on your personal religious and spiritual beliefs and several personality disorders such as narcissism and dishonesty - that’s insurmountable for a lay person. Certainly for a mere woman. My advice to anyone interested in him who isn’t a Stepford wife too stupid to have an opinion and completely devoid of courage and self-esteem is to run like hell. So far, Hannah seems to know that much.

Producers made her keep Luke around for as long as she did. and IMO Tyler was her #1 from day 1. I think TPTB messed with her head and that's why in the end she chose Jed. I can just imagine the negative things they told her about Tyler , same as they did with Cassie and Colton. They knew about Jed's GF's and they knew they could get the drama they wanted from it in the end. jmo

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - ScreenCaps - Sleuthing Spoilers - #2

Episode 9 - FDs (3 - 2) Luke, Peter, Tyler, Jed
4/29: FD1:
4/30: day off
5/1: FD2 :
5/2: day off

Screencaps credits to our SC queen @alwayscooking, from SC thread https://www.bachandbachettefans.net/t5201-bachelorette-15-hannah-brown-scaps-no-discussion-sleuthing-spoilers

This is Jed’d FD in Elounda Mare , Crete, location identified by the spoiler account https://www.instagram.com/p/By5zNJVH68i/?igshid=wrt6p74ice69

Topics tagged under 1 on bachandbachettefans.net - Page 25 Cacfc610

ETA:

Topics tagged under 1 on bachandbachettefans.net - Page 25 D95d7210

Credit to Reddit poster, Jed’s FS was Elounda Peninsula All Suite Hotel, Six Senses Spa, Bed headboard and lamp match

Topics tagged under 1 on bachandbachettefans.net - Page 25 F9d10210

https://www.booking.com/hotel/gr/peninsula.en-gb.html[/quote]

5/3: FD3:

5/4: FD4:LUKE - Santorini, Greece - real time picture proof. - RS reported he was eliminated during date

According to our poster @luvstx, TripAdvisor posters reported bad weather, (confirmed by screencaps, raining during night portion of Hannah and Luke’s FD. Ferries and some flights were canceled between Santorini and Mykonos

5/5: 9th Rose Ceremony: ELIMINATED: LUKE (per RS) during date, PETER during RC

Many think this is the F3 RC, same location as Jed’s FD night portion, because of the same yellow arch, in Crete. RS reported Luke returned.

Topics tagged under 1 on bachandbachettefans.net - Page 25 Bcf42910

My question: if the weather was horrible the day before, why did they go back to Crete, then go again to Santorini for MTP and FRC?
(I will talk later why I think MTP and FRC were in Santorini)

My conspiracy theory: TPTB had pre-planned 3 FDs as usual, but Luke was too good to let go at f4, knowing his view on sex would clash with Hannah, so they added him later (for old timers: I remember they did kind of the same thing with Ed in Jillian’s season for FD hotel?)

5/6: MTP #1 -
5/7: MTP #2 -

5/8: LCD #1 -
5/9: LCD #2 -

CH was spotted in Santorini according to the spoiler site:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxSlA7Dgzha/?igshid=16njsxf1dka5e

Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - TIMELINE - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers* 28036110

5/10: FRC

According to Hannah’s family sm posting :

Brother-in-law (or cousin or uncle, sorry I can’t remember)
https://www.instagram.com/bamaboy1981
5/7 Crete
5/9 Santorini
Brother Patrick https://www.instagram.com/patrickbrown81
5/8 Crete
5/9 Santorini
Dad Robert https://www.instagram.com/robertbrown2400
(I don’t think dad’s posting is helpful because I think it’s later-gram)

I think MTP are in Crete
LCD and FRC are in Santorini
But we need more screencaps to confirm.