Nick Viall - Bachelorette 11 - *Spoilers - Sleuthing* - Discussion #6

BKay wrote:

SueSt wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:Yeah, in my opinion there are only a few things that Nick could have done to make Kaitlyn this angry: lashed out at her for leading him on, bad-mouthed Shawn to her, leaked things to RS and tabloids, and/or  moved on romantically immediately making Kaitlyn think that he just went on for attention/never loved her.

Well that would be hypocritical, no?

There is something else he might have done - maybe he got to the FRC and told her he couldn't propose, that he decided they weren't right for one another. Would that be a FRC first? Would she blow a gasket? Would tptb ever let that happen?

Kashathediva wrote:IDK. If you are reading through them pretty fast, he simply could be acknowledging the fact of taking a photo with a fan and having pizza at that spot.
So much angst is caused over sm and liking, following, blah blah blah. People need to get back to simply talking.

isittrue wrote:

chasingpavements wrote:I like Nick, but sometimes I question why he has the worst  jJJ from last season was ust a weasel (who  posted an IG of a girl giving him mouth love) and JJ from this seasotaste in friends from this franchise.n is a cheating, fame-wh*re (who called Nick self absorbed in that periscope he did). It makes me question whether there's something wrong with him.

Anyways, RS did say that N/S still hate each other and I'm pretty sure one of his sources is Nick's close friend. It's really anybody's guess whether nick will be able to hide it for his 25 min segment on ATFR.

Ugh really?  I did not know that about JJ #1.  Anyway, sometimes who we chose to associate with can tell you what kind of person you really are too.  Nick's other friends seem normal so maybe it's just this franchise where his picker is broke between friends and gals.  

I am sure he will not hid his distaste for Shawn and vice versa.  Shawn will probably explode while Nick calmly (perhaps passive aggressively) gets under his skin at ATFR.  It is not going to fun to watch.  

chasingpavements wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:IMO, he's way past the journey. He isn't tweeting about S. Does his acknowledging it make him not mature? I disagree. S behavior.  ATFR is not going to change that.

He actually has tweeted about Shawn, saying "someone finally gets the courage to say my name". I don't know, I like TV Nick but real-life Nick doesn't impress me as much. I wish he hadn't supported Kaitlyn in his tweets, when it was clear that she wanted nothing to do with him. It just made him come across needy and desperate. And, I wish he hadn't even acknowledged or made light jokes about Shawn on SM. I'm not saying that he's not allowed to but the fact that he's the oldest out of all of these guys, by far, and that this is the second time makes me think he should know better. I remember last year, I lost respect for him because he followed this creeper and favorited a bunch of his tweets in which he had Photoshopped out Josh's face out of JODI photoshoots and put Nick's face in/tweeted Andi asking her how sex with Nick was. Of course, I'm fickle and I like him again because he's been pretty good this past year. But, one of the reasons that I like him so much on TV is because he stayed above all the pettiness and was (IMO) the "better man" when it came to his fight with Shawn. Now...I don't know.

chasingpavements wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:IMO, he's way past the journey. He isn't tweeting about S. Does his acknowledging it make him not mature? I disagree. S behavior.  ATFR is not going to change that.

He actually has tweeted about Shawn, saying "someone finally gets the courage to say my name". I don't know, I like TV Nick but real-life Nick doesn't impress me as much. I wish he hadn't supported Kaitlyn in his tweets, when it was clear that she wanted nothing to do with him. It just made him come across needy and desperate. And, I wish he hadn't even acknowledged or made light jokes about Shawn on SM. I'm not saying that he's not allowed to but the fact that he's the oldest out of all of these guys, by far, and that this is the second time makes me think he should know better. I remember last year, I lost respect for him because he followed this creeper and favorited a bunch of his tweets in which he had Photoshopped out Josh's face out of JODI photoshoots and put Nick's face in/tweeted Andi asking her how sex with Nick was. Of course, I'm fickle and I like him again because he's been pretty good this past year. But, one of the reasons that I like him so much on TV is because he stayed above all the pettiness and was (IMO) the "better man" when it came to his fight with Shawn. Now...I don't know.

chasingpavements wrote:

mprssdbyu wrote:IMO, he's way past the journey. He isn't tweeting about S. Does his acknowledging it make him not mature? I disagree. S behavior.  ATFR is not going to change that.

He actually has tweeted about Shawn, saying "someone finally gets the courage to say my name". I don't know, I like TV Nick but real-life Nick doesn't impress me as much. I wish he hadn't supported Kaitlyn in his tweets, when it was clear that she wanted nothing to do with him. It just made him come across needy and desperate. And, I wish he hadn't even acknowledged or made light jokes about Shawn on SM. I'm not saying that he's not allowed to but the fact that he's the oldest out of all of these guys, by far, and that this is the second time makes me think he should know better. I remember last year, I lost respect for him because he followed this creeper and favorited a bunch of his tweets in which he had Photoshopped out Josh's face out of JODI photoshoots and put Nick's face in/tweeted Andi asking her how sex with Nick was. Of course, I'm fickle and I like him again because he's been pretty good this past year. But, one of the reasons that I like him so much on TV is because he stayed above all the pettiness and was (IMO) the "better man" when it came to his fight with Shawn. Now...I don't know.

isittrue wrote:Nick retweeted the following

Claire Fallon retweeted JJ Lane
impossible, shawn said EVERY GUY from BOTH SEASONS hated nick, and he would never exaggerate or make that up.

Nick needs to stop defending himself and bringing up Shawn on SM - it's not making him look any better than it made Shawn look doing it during the show IMO.

I liked the Nick on SM a lot better last season.  I would have had less a problem had he defended himself while the episode was airing.  To bring things up now, just makes him look as petty as Shawn did saying them during the season.  jmho

ETA:  Almost feels like he wants to incite some drama before ATFR.  Not cool