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MAFS - Season 4 - Derek Schwartz - Heather Seidel

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Re: MAFS - Season 4 - Derek Schwartz - Heather Seidel

Post by albean99 on Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:52 pm

I still don't think Derek should have been on the show given what seems to be his habit (imo). I also didn't like how he lashed out at Heather. She made her own mistakes but I don't think she would have given up so quickly unless it was a big dealbreaker. Derek seems to enjoy playing the victim and the show is letting him imo. Hopefully he really did see something in himself watching the show that he will change for future relationships. Heather should turn her back on the show after the edit they gave her. All JMO.


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Post by zygote on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:05 am

Apologies if this has already been discussed; I only stumbled across this forum recently.

I follow Jamie Otis on twitter, and sometime in August, she replied to a tweet wondering what Derek was smoking saying that it was actually marijuana. She has since deleted it, but I found a screencap on twitter. Presumably there was a reason they never said it was marijuana on the show, and either Derek or the producers asked her to take it down. I was surprised she tweeted it in the first place when I saw it.

It won't let me post links or images since I'm new, but the screencap was posted by the MAFSFan twitter on August 16th.

To be clear, it's still a secondhand source. No confirmation from Derek himself. But I thought people would be interested and, IMO, I believe Jamie. I totally understand why the show didn't go there since it's not legal anywhere the show was filmed, but it does provide a lot of context.


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Post by reason on Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:09 am

@zygote now that is interested if it is not legal where they film, then the company might could get into legal trouble.  JMHO of corse.

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Re: MAFS - Season 4 - Derek Schwartz - Heather Seidel

Post by Amberish on Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:38 pm

It's not legal.

Thanks, zygote. I captured the post you mentioned and another of Heather listing her deal breakers.




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Re: MAFS - Season 4 - Derek Schwartz - Heather Seidel

Post by zygote on Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:15 am

Thanks for posting these screencaps, Amberish.

It's really too bad Heather hasn't been able to talk freely about the reasons behind their breakup, even having to delete a tweet that's still pretty vague. She's come across poorly based on the way they had to edit it and has everyone attacking her on twitter, etc. I don't think either of them are bad people, they just weren't a good match. IMO, she does not deserve so much hate.

I wonder if the show would get in any legal trouble for showing marijuana use, or if it's just that they want to protect Derek. IANAL so I don't know the exact consequences. But if they air participants doing illegal stuff and the participants end up getting in trouble for it, I can't imagine they'd have an easy time recruiting people to be on the show in the future...

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Post by Newto on Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:09 am

I am sure the show carefully skirted the issue of what Derek was smoking. Nobody wants to get involved in a lawsuit over something like this.

Perhaps we'll never know the truth. In the meantime, Derek and Heather deserve to go their separate ways, pick up their lives, and go on. IMHO it is time for the excess publicity and speculation to end. Let them go their separate ways; this has been an uncomfortable experience for both of them.

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Post by Amberish on Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:56 am

Yes, zygote. The truth does tend to put a HUGE exclamation point on the Derek/Heather matter, doesn't it?

So, yes, Derek is a pothead. Yes, Derek is trying to make it big rapping his 420 lifestyle. And, if to bother to watch early episodes, yes, what Derek looked like is what a typical middle aged stoner looks like.

Insofar as anger and violent tendencies, that's typical of pothead withdrawal behavior. **IMO**

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Post by provenceguy on Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:12 am

I feel bad that Heather basically has to keep quiet about this and look like a stuck up snob in the process.

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Post by GuardianAngel on Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:27 pm

Columbia, MD wrote:I am sure the show carefully skirted the issue of what Derek was smoking.  Nobody wants to get involved in a lawsuit over something like this.

Perhaps we'll never know the truth.  In the meantime, Derek and Heather deserve to go their separate ways, pick up their lives, and go on.  IMHO it is time for the excess publicity and speculation to end.  Let them go their separate ways; this has been an uncomfortable experience for both of them.

Re the bold, neither do I. Smiley

We have no idea what lifestyle Derek leads, we can speculate, post our opinions, however we are not going to label someone as fact when we don't have the facts.


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Post by jupitercornflakes on Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:17 pm

@provenceguy wrote:I feel bad that Heather basically has to keep quiet about this and look like a stuck up snob in the process.

To me this is the biggest problem. IMO, Heather has been dragged through the mud over something that was clearly a deal breaker for her. IMO this couple was matched for drama not a relationship, as I have said before. Unfortunately Heather could not have known that . I think she she did want to be married and she looked happy at the alter. It was when everything hit the fan that she she wanted to bail. IMO, that is her right, and she should have been able to leave without being given the villain treatment.

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Post by provenceguy on Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:28 pm

Derek posted a lovely photo of him and Heather (he with his arm around her) taken during the homeless event the group organized and all participated in last weekend. They look very friendly with each other.

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Post by GuardianAngel on Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:45 pm

Thanks @provenceguy I can't tell what those emoticons are. It's nice to see them cordial.

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