Nick Viall - Bachelor 21 - FRC - ATFR - Mar 13 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Cila51290 wrote:I really don't think Vanessa would say no to Nick's proposal. I honestly think she's so eager for Nick to finally express his true feelings for her and propose with true intentions . If he scores a home run with his proposal speech, I think she will say yes.  I honestly don't even think she's the type to get dressed for that final rose ceremony if she already made up her mind to say NO.

Saying no to an engagement isnt ending the relationship, just that shes deeper than the show and is taking this seriously and considers it real life and not just providing an ending to this show. Im just trying to come up with a historic ending that still ties in with a Nick and Vanessa happy ending.

I would love for bachnation to support Vs foundation as per Anna chiilis Instagram and launch at AFR with all her students being present. IMO TB hasn't had a woman like V on this show. IMO she is inspirational with a heart of gold. I have never admired a woman so much on this show. #teamnissa

northernviewer wrote:

Cila51290 wrote:I really don't think Vanessa would say no to Nick's proposal. I honestly think she's so eager for Nick to finally express his true feelings for her and propose with true intentions . If he scores a home run with his proposal speech, I think she will say yes.  I honestly don't even think she's the type to get dressed for that final rose ceremony if she already made up her mind to say NO.

Saying no to an engagement isnt ending the relationship, just that shes deeper than the show and is taking this seriously and considers it real life and not just providing an ending to this show.    Im just trying to come up with a historic ending that still ties in with a Nick and Vanessa happy ending.

I get what your saying but Vanessa knows Nick's trajectory on this show. Rejecting his proposal will only open the narrative that again Nick is rejected. He proposes yet again and the woman says no. The storyboard has been this all season which leads me to be believe the opposite happened. If she were to do that anyway, why not say "I can't accept your proposal tomorrow, if you pick me let's just date." I just don't want Nick to propose yet again and get rejected.. I would feel really sorry for him if that were to happen

Vanessa accepts Nick's proposal IMO. We've had articles that pretty much make it clear that they've already seen the episode and pretty much say Nick proposes and the woman accepts.

What's so historic about a straight up proposal and acceptance? Something thats never happened before occurs....what is Fleiss and Co. referring to?

mabe they fly her parents there ...or just her dad to ask for His blessing in person? Deanna's dad wasnt shown, so The general public isnt aware that he was actually there during Brads first sason.

hmmm What could be so historical?
I think V will def say "yes" to N at FRC... I do not think they will get married at the ATFR... not personal enough. What if they already got married (just a civil ceremony at the town hall, not a religious one yet) during these last 4 months? what if they decided that there is no time to waste, no time like the present, etc etc we are madly in love with each other, PLUS what better way for both to "compromise" on a sure thing in terms of the famous/infamous living situation? Being legally married will ensure a sponsoring by V to get N to be a Canadian resident, and will also ensure that N can do the same for V so she can become an American resident... possible? In the meantime, they will split their time half & half in both countries until they get their residence documents issued (pre- Immigration accepting them, of course) and once that happens, they will have the big religious wedding. Am I a little insane? haha! Not sure about a baby yet, that would be too soon. A wedding may be soon also, but given their "location situation" it may be the last best decision. Oh well! haha!

northernviewer wrote:What's so historic about a straight up proposal and acceptance?  Something thats never happened before occurs....what is Fleiss and Co. referring to?

They've stated that the historic part is during the ATFR though, not the episode.

lleyki wrote:

northernviewer wrote:What's so historic about a straight up proposal and acceptance?  Something thats never happened before occurs....what is Fleiss and Co. referring to?

They've stated that the historic part is during the ATFR though, not the episode.

Oh, didnt realize that ...so its during live portion...thanks for clarifying

The last Fleiss tweet said during the 3 hour finale so something could be "historicalness" in the epi as well as "historical" "historic" & most "historic", as per previous tweets, in the ATFR.

notarose wrote:The last Fleiss tweet said during the 3 hour finale so something could be "historicalness" in the epi as well as "historical" "historic" & most "historic", as per previous tweets, in the ATFR.

ATFR is included in the "3-hour finale" though. I think the historical bit will be live, whatever it is.

coolangel wrote:Mark is still in London. I have been stalking him. I don't think DWTS is a possibility for Vanessa anymore. I would have expected him to be back and start practicing by now if she was on the show.  

He did send out this tweet which can be considered suspicious though.    

Just got an email from apple verifying my season pass for @BachelorABC hmmmmm @BCJean anything you want to tell me???            

— Mark Ballas (@MarkBallas) March 7, 2017

All JMO.

Sounds suspicious to me!! Maybe his wife never watched TB and now for some reason she wants to watch the whole season?

Did they ever do anything with footage from the Bachelor/Bachelorette babies' play date that was filmed a few weeks ago? I could see Fleiss pimping some "rose ceremony" involving the babies as historic ... just a thought.  I think he's just trying to stir up interest for a season finale with a foregone conclusion.