Bachelorette 15 - Hannah Brown - June 11th - Epi 5 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Hannah and Tyler on the bed with his kilt & "bagpipes" was very suggestive. Maybe there's a reason they didn't show much? Hugesmile

Ash2214 wrote:I blame both Hannah and production for Luke making it as far as he did.

Hannah has said in more than one interview now that in her previous three year relationship it was all about her trying to save her boyfriend and make him a better person. She said to Nick on his podcast that she ended up saving him, but it broke her. I see her trying to do the same thing here with Luke. I also just think she latched on to the idea of him from night one and it was difficult to let that go. 

Last night we saw Hannah talking to her two main producers. She flat out asked them why he was acting like this and Billy told her it just takes some time. At this point, production has already seen Luke’s (IMO) manipulative behavior and potential anger issues. Hannah was already in a mind pretzel with Luke and her producers were essentially telling her to work it out with him. I can see this being confusing for her.

I feel for Hannah, but it sucks for us as viewers when we see these little glimpses of her with Tyler, Jed, and Peter and then the rest of it is the Luke show.

Hawaii Girl wrote:

limoncello wrote:they even drag this dude to HTD which is just mind-boggling.

Hannah's the one who drags him to fantasy suites, not production IMO. Production generally lets the villain flame out around episode 5/6 and the rest of the drama in the season is about the relationships, jealousy ect... Hannah needs to be held accountable for Luke making it that far. You can see how hard she's trying to cling to the perfect guy he presented himself as on night 1.

sosleepy wrote:I do severely question Luke body slamming another contestant, causing potential great harm (outside of the actual game at hand) and not being removed. That kind of $hit should (and has) gotten other contestants bounced from other reality shows. This shouldn’t be any different. Bachelor producers are so shady.

I’m still putting a lot of blame on Hannah, but producers really took this story line too far. They need a villain, sure, but spending literally like an hour every episode on just him, is really a disservice to the show, the other men, and the other relationships that are frankly more compelling and easier to watch.

At this point, I’m kind of just waiting for it to wrap up. I want to see what’s going on in real time, hopefully ship that, cause the glimpses we get from a few months ago are steaming hot *fingers crossed*, let Luke fade from our collective minds, and just relax with dumb BIP.

ABC was second in ratings with a 1.1/6 and third in viewers with 4.2 million. “The Bachelorette” from 8-10 put up a 1.3/7 and 4.7 million viewers. At 10, “Press Your Luck” got a 0.8/4 and 3.2 million viewers. The Elizabeth Banks-hosted game show landed ABC’s best summertime numbers in the hour in almost three years.

Mommyof2 wrote:Jed pouring the bucket of milk over him...epic!!     Love that guy!  

sosleepy wrote:Luke is just sucking the life out of this season now. This episode sucked, imo. She had a great cast of guys, literally the best group since Kaitlyn. And here we are spending like over half an episode on Luke, every damn time. I’m so bothered he’s going all the way to FSDs, cause that makes 4 dates for that episode, and you just know the big sex blow up will take the majority. I’m going to be especially annoyed by then, because just effing show us Tyler!!!!! And you know he will get the shaft.

Hannah. If Luke makes you cry so much and causes you so much stress, so soon, before you even really know him... and also while you have guys like Tyler, Peter, and Jed... just let   him go . It will only get worse in real life once you leave fantasy land. Stop wasting your time, stop wasting the guys time, stop wasting our time. I’m sure producers played a part, but seriously. Soooooo over this, and we still have lots of episodes of this nonsense in front of us too.


GIVE ME MORE TYLER! That’s what we want. Cripes. Hannah and Tyler have literally one of the hottest connections I’ve ever seen on this show, on multiple levels, and we get nearly nothing so we can focus on Douche Canoe. It’s infuriating and I’m literally fast forwarding through most of it.

Amethyst wrote:I didn't see the entire episode, but will comment on what I did see.

I feel that Luke C. got bullied into leaving. He was badly bullied by Luke P. Yeah, he could have stuck around, but to what purpose? He's not stupid. He had already gotten significantly injured due to Luke P.'s roid-like rage, and his reputation with Hannah was in tatters, again due to Luke P's machinations. Luke C. probably knew at this time that he was middle-of-the-pack at best, and his chances of surviving the rose ceremony were not wonderful. Why put himself through that? He certainly wasn't enjoying himself. I get that Hannah didn't have the full picture at the time, but it would be nice for her to give Luke C. some love now. Hannah, he didn't leave because he wasn't feeling it with you. All of the guys enjoyed your company, and enjoyed spending time with you. Luke C. left because he had no other choice.  

I don't think the producers were involved in keeping Luke P. around. I think Hannah was terribly confused that her initial judgement of him was in question. IMO she didn't like the fact that her judgment may have been off. So she wanted to get to the bottom of that, and it's a process to do so.

I agree with those who say Mike was friend-zoned by this point. Nothing wrong with that. All but a handful of the cast members in any given season will be friend-zoned. I enjoyed their date and their walking trip around the city, enjoying typical tourist activities. LOL at the man in the bar who promoted haggis as a traditional Scottish food, and then later told them that he never eats it himself because he's English!

At this point I'm not feeling it in terms of either Mike or Pilot Pete for Bachelor. Maybe Jed. Or maybe Garrett or someone else.

albean99 wrote:It's not the first time that the Bachelorette has held off on a decision on a rose in a SD. Usually it ends up with them getting a rose.

I thought it was interesting that they took out a rose when Luke S left on his own. Doesn't that usually just mean that 1 less guy of those left will leave? I'm thinking that meant he was going to get a rose until he left. I don't blame him for leaving. It was clear that Hannah was on Luke P's side.