Bachelorette New Zealand - Season 1 - Dr Lesina Nakhid-Schuster - Lily McManus - *Sleuthing Spoilers *

Astrobach wrote:@AllAboutLove @Bobette Ladies, I am dizzy with all these back and forth theories!
A thought, we know they are lurking around here... and maybe they are changing their style to prevent too many spoilers?
Also, another thought, it sort of reminds me of Hannah B with Tyler, he had a strong presence but was kind of hidden in the first few episodes, and that’s because when he was with her it was so obvious, that they had chemistry, they needed to pace the progression to not obliterate the REAL F1 who, no one really saw that much going on with.
So, maybe the communication and body language is so natural and good, that they have to hide some of it to continue the show and exploit the various characters. I’ll watch the #2 tonight and see what I think then.

@Astrobach  I'm having fun with it. So much more fun without RS, no spoilers, no betting agencies. I already said Kurt for F1 pre-season so not much more to do if I just stick with that. So trying to figure out all the pieces.

It could be similar to US, but this is a first season for Bette NZ. I would assume they'd want an obvious F1 that audiences in NZ will get behind the lead and couple (otherwise it's not good for the show at all). Keep in mind that this is the first time they have a Bette and it's been some time since they had a bachelor show at all, so I don't see the need for NZ Bette to misdirect or anything like later seasons (the US show, or even Aussie recent seasons). If anything, the seem to be MORE transparent, and realistic than even their Bach NZ counterpart.

Trying to figure it all out but without screencaps of Kurt and Lesina it's making it difficult. It's probably the first season I've sleuthed/watched where the speculated F1 is NOT shown a lot in the season preview and in Kurt's case, there's NO screencaps of him and Lesina whatsoever for future eps. That's a first and I've never seen that before for any franchise Any other season I'd say the screencaps are saying he doesn't go far. So this means I am putting more credibility on everything else sleuthed (stats, SM, media, first ep edit) rather than season preview screencaps. That's new for me. I want to make sure I don't misdirect myself. There have to be screencaps of them together, otherwise it's not likely F1 (as would be what I'd say for any other season). Will keep sleuthing

AllAboutLove wrote:Okay so this screencap of Kurt is from later on? He says "I'm feeling shattered" (could be vo for the first bit but he definitely looks downcast)

Could be he is saying he will feel shattered if he doesn't get picked etc.. so a misdirect. In the clip he definitely seems low energy. Contrasted to Aaron above where he is clearly seeming stressed out (faced not shown which is a typical F1 thing to do).


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Yep, that's still to come.  And the exposed brick wall in the background matches Aaron clutching his head being stressed.  Kurt's hair and beard are noticeably longer.  This wouldn't be them preparing for the FRC would it?     Kurt's outfit looks much fancier.  

ETA: Oh yikes it's VELVET. You know what that means...

Oh didn't Art do a IG post with a brick wall in the background?

Jordan44 wrote:...snipped
IMO I suspect maybe they are using the early episodes to introduce each of the F4's separately, Kurt Ep 1, Aaron Ep 2, Perhaps Logan episode 3, and someone else Ep 4, so the audience is invested in them all?

@Jordan44 Yep - Logan next IMO - he has that rose on his lapel at the Spy Reveal.

@Bobette I had already seen Kurt with this Tux... and seemed foreshadowing from FRC. BUT what do you mean by ‘ velvet ’???

Astrobach wrote:@Bobette I had already seen Kurt with this Tux... and seemed foreshadowing from FRC. BUT what do you mean by ‘ velvet ’???

It's a bit of an in-joke for those who watch the AU seasons.  The F1/front runners often wear velvet jackets.  There's a blue one, a red one and a black one, and they drag them out season after season. There are even articles written about it (e.g. this one).

If those are their FRC outfits, Aaron's catching the bus home alone in his green checked suit and Kurt's velvet jacket is ending up in a pile on Lesina's bedroom floor IMO.

These screencaps:

We know Logan has a rose here (with mole Daryl and total of 18 men).  





Here are 15 men (so three have left, including mole Daryl). Note the men who have roses already: FIR recipient Quinn and looks like Steve and George? 

Perhaps Quinn gets a single date? He keeps getting roses early on at rose ceremonies so it's likely especially with FIR



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Yeah I think I'm definitely locking Quinn in as F4.  

He gets naked tonight at the Drag Show - I'm guessing Lesina liked what she saw and that's where his rose comes from.

@Bobette agree. Quinn has to go further I'd think. Lesina in Ep 3 has said she plans to have a date with him. 

Still, no SCs of him and Lesina. So perhaps intentional then that FIR Quinn and Kurt (whom she said would have gotten FIR too) are MIA in season preview

I think this is Tavita with Lesina? If so then he gets another date or time with her.



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Yeah looks like Tavita to me too @AllAboutLove - doesn't look like a SD though (not facing each other)

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AND... I see two heads of BLONDE hair here.  Terrence and Lily? (If so I can't believe she let the boy drive )



Could also be Lily IMO:



Source: TVNZ2 Episode 1 Season Preview