Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Feb 24th - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

gabriele wrote:

Jolena wrote:

LoveDovez wrote:

Sprite wrote:Remember that Madi...Actions speak louder than words...

He will tell you he is crazy about you, he is falling in love,   ...but will still sleep with everyone.

Poor Peter having to keep it in his pants. So hard...

IMHO He couldn't have been in love with Madi and sleep with both of the others and
I believe he slept with both of the others. He felt like he had to keep his alter ego of being a 4 times stud guy that he didn't care one bit about Madi's feelings and it wasn't that he didn't know because she told him how she felt. Peter don't deserve her. IMO..If she can't trust him now with him trying to woo her into falling in love with him how on earth is she expected to trust him enough to marry him??  Run Madi Run!!!

MAdi never told him that she was falling in love with him or that she was in love with him. I think he only slept with Hannah Ann in the (F1's Grand FS) and I think he ends up with her. jmo I don't think he slept with Victoria (as much as he probably wanted too) I think he knows he'll get called out at ATFR or WTA and I doubt he wants to be put in that position again. jmo

Jolena, I think you just might be on to something. Peter may not be the most experienced with relationships but I honestly can’t see him posting that pic with HA in bed if he’s with Madi. He’s not stupid. Also, what he said to VF at their dinner was very telling. He wants someone who he can be 100% confident in that they will be there for him. HA is the only one that is 100% all in. VF is always threatening to walk away and he now knows her background after HTDs and Madi is just so different from him. Madi has yet to even tell him she’s falling in love with him and walked away at the dinner. She gave up a lot of time where they could have talked all night. She’s not at all all in. I was also reminded that Jimmy Kimmel said Peter is with HA. And you may be right that Peter didn’t sleep with VF as she had a t shirt on in bed. jmo

Just throwing this out there but Hannah never having been in love before and being so young would be an easier break up for him if things didn't work out. jmo

Jolena wrote:

gabriele wrote:

Jolena wrote:

LoveDovez wrote:

Sprite wrote:Remember that Madi...Actions speak louder than words...

He will tell you he is crazy about you, he is falling in love,   ...but will still sleep with everyone.

Poor Peter having to keep it in his pants. So hard...

IMHO He couldn't have been in love with Madi and sleep with both of the others and
I believe he slept with both of the others. He felt like he had to keep his alter ego of being a 4 times stud guy that he didn't care one bit about Madi's feelings and it wasn't that he didn't know because she told him how she felt. Peter don't deserve her. IMO..If she can't trust him now with him trying to woo her into falling in love with him how on earth is she expected to trust him enough to marry him??  Run Madi Run!!!

MAdi never told him that she was falling in love with him or that she was in love with him. I think he only slept with Hannah Ann in the (F1's Grand FS) and I think he ends up with her. jmo I don't think he slept with Victoria (as much as he probably wanted too) I think he knows he'll get called out at ATFR or WTA and I doubt he wants to be put in that position again. jmo

Jolena, I think you just might be on to something. Peter may not be the most experienced with relationships but I honestly can’t see him posting that pic with HA in bed if he’s with Madi. He’s not stupid. Also, what he said to VF at their dinner was very telling. He wants someone who he can be 100% confident in that they will be there for him. HA is the only one that is 100% all in. VF is always threatening to walk away and he now knows her background after HTDs and Madi is just so different from him. Madi has yet to even tell him she’s falling in love with him and walked away at the dinner. She gave up a lot of time where they could have talked all night. She’s not at all all in. I was also reminded that Jimmy Kimmel said Peter is with HA. And you may be right that Peter didn’t sleep with VF as she had a t shirt on in bed. jmo

Just throwing this out there but Hannah never having been in love before and being so young would be an easier break up for him if things didn't work out. jmo

Yeah, who knows if they would last but they definitely have the best chance. jmo

This season has been such a chore to get through, but this was my favourite episode along with the first, and that's probably because those were the two episodes where we were shown real, genuine feelings. I've said this from the beginning but the reason I watch the Bachelor is because I like watching people fall in love, that's it. I like reading dating stories, I read romance novels. This season was mostly women yelling at each other and scripted conversations.

It's clear to me he's fallen for Madison, it's always been clear, to be honest, but she's always been very guarded with her feelings and her thoughts, which is fine - who in real life would expect someone to bare their soul to everybody in just eight weeks? It's ridiculous. The problem with Madison is that she's real, she's not acting, and this is not real life. The Bachelor is a show and there's a timeline and a general script for the season. She's great, but she wasn't a good fit for the show to begin with.

Their dinner conversation was awesome. Earlier seasons of The Bachelor would mention the timeline quite a bit but I feel like we're deliberately left in the dark, Madison saying that she couldn't wrap her mind around him proposing to her when he'd slept with two other women six days before was a refreshing comment, I'm surprised they left it in. Of course it would make absolutely zero sense in real life.

I also appreciated the fact that she finally told him how much she's been sacrificing for his sake - that it's been hell seeing him kissing other women and dating other girls and of course it would be hell. I would be devastated too. A lot of people will say Madison knew what she signed up for, that if she wanted a real relationship, with Real Life Expectations (monogamy, commitment, saying you're in love when you really feel like you're in love and not before), she shouldn't have come onto the show, which I guess is fair, but I'm happy she was picked anyway because her journey on The Bachelor really brought home just how ridiculous the whole concept of the show is. It may work for some, but I can't imagine that many girls who are truly in love with someone would put up with that much.

I feel really sad for her, ultimately. She kept apologising for having expectations all the while knowing deep down she's proud of those expectations. Madison, there's nothing wrong with what you're asking and what you want for yourself. It's actually wonderful to see someone so young be so sure of what they want out of life. She deserves better than The Bachelor, she deserves a real relationship where expecting someone to date just you isn't a wild demand.

Also, I'll go ahead and say the saddest conversation I've ever heard on this show was when Hannah Ann and Madison told Victoria she was 'so skinny' and she said 'thank you'. My jaw dropped. It was truly shocking and such a sad consequence of what's expected of women's bodies these days. It made me feel sick.

I just remembered that Peter picked HA first at the last RC after HTDs. Things may have started to become clearer to Peter after Madi’s HTD that they weren’t so compatible. If RS is correct Peter will pick HA first again at this next RC after FDs. jmo

I just watched the episode. Thought it was probably the best episode of the season. I am confused why they didn't show HA morning after though? i really wanted to see those fluffy socks ;) anyway Madi's and Peter dinner FS part gave me Colton and Cassie vibes. I honestly thought Peter was just going to say the same things as Colton as not to lose Madi. IMO Madi is F1 and i won't change my mind until i see the ending..I feel like TPTB are hoping Madi leaves so she can be bachelorette So it does make me question her edit?and if she does take Peter back or not?

LeapofFaith wrote:... I am confused why they didn't show HA morning after though?...

So was Pete that's why he posted this photo to his instagram story JMO

jen689 wrote:

LeapofFaith wrote:... I am confused why they didn't show HA morning after though?...

So was Pete that's why he posted this photo to his instagram story JMO

OMG he didn't??

Jolena wrote:

LoveDovez wrote:

Sprite wrote:Remember that Madi...Actions speak louder than words...

He will tell you he is crazy about you, he is falling in love,   ...but will still sleep with everyone.

Poor Peter having to keep it in his pants. So hard...

IMHO He couldn't have been in love with Madi and sleep with both of the others and
I believe he slept with both of the others. He felt like he had to keep his alter ego of being a 4 times stud guy that he didn't care one bit about Madi's feelings and it wasn't that he didn't know because she told him how she felt. Peter don't deserve her. IMO..If she can't trust him now with him trying to woo her into falling in love with him how on earth is she expected to trust him enough to marry him??  Run Madi Run!!!

MAdi never told him that she was falling in love with him or that she was in love with him. I think he only slept with Hannah Ann in the (F1's Grand FS) and I think he ends up with her. jmo I don't think he slept with Victoria (as much as he probably wanted too) I think he knows he'll get called out at ATFR or WTA and I doubt he wants to be put in that position again. jmo

I know she didn't tell him that.That wasn't what I was talking about. It would have taken someone really dumb not to have known she was taking about her being a virgin.Peter didn't even look shocked when she told him at dinner. So IMHO He knew....

pikake wrote:Oh Peter, Peter, if you cared so much for Madison, why couldn’t you have kept the intimacy out of the other two relationships? You idiot! If I were Madison I would never be able to trust him in the future either .... as a retired flight attendant I will say pilots are not known for being the most faithful men in the world.

A friend of mine who is a former flight attendant said the same thing -- pilots as a group are not known for being faithful. She said that for her airline, pilots and FAs flew together for a month at a time and relationships would develop. She told me about one flight where the both the pilot's FA wife and FA side-piece were on the same trip. Oops!

MsBuckingham wrote:
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Also, I'll go ahead and say the saddest conversation I've ever heard on this show this week was when Hannah Ann and Madison told Victoria she was 'so skinny' and she said 'thank you'. My jaw dropped. It was truly shocking and such a sad consequence of what's expected of women's bodies these days. It made me feel sick.

This is the first season where I feel that the female cast members are getting too thin, overall. Most of the women appear to be in the size 00-2 range. Even a woman who is a slender size 6 would look "huge" compared to these women. It made me wonder what happened during casting that very thin women appeared to have been favored. It's a beautiful group of women, but I just want to give them all a good meal.

@Amethyst Another reason why Victoria is so attracted to him! Perfect lifestyle fit! First the transitory military, then the touring musician and now the ever ‘ en route ‘ pilot! This girl has a plan!
JMOAA ( JK)

Astrobach wrote:@Amethyst Another reason why Victoria is so attracted to him! Perfect lifestyle fit! First the transitory military, then the touring musician and now the ever ‘ en route ‘ pilot! This girl has a plan!
JMOAA ( JK)

I have to admit, the same thought occurred to me as well.

I hope Madison moves on she deserves so much better