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Bachelor Canada - Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Episode Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers - #2

HEA wrote:I would like to mention that renting a presidential suite for one night, not even enjoying the facilities because they showed up late at night.....

we know it is sponsored by sunwing... so what is the point to rent a suite if not fully seen..... prods made us believe it was 2 different places by blurring the number

this means for me that they rented this place to use the ground floor for meeting the parents because it was easier to put all the material needed for the taping and do not do it again 2 times. practical.... but also cheap since they did not see the need to rent something special just for lindsey.

and thanks to the edits, they made us believe it was another place (blur number) as we see lindsey and chirs enter and immediately out of the stairs to the bedroom in the 1st floor.

one girl came from the left, the other one came from the right.... again to make us think it was a different place

blur number, changing direction but same place. from the entrance with blur number, directly to the bedroom .... no WOW factor that it is a presidential suite because viewers did not see it at all #EDITS

However, I am kinda confident to think that the parents did not sleep there. Again, they set up the place for the meetings but it was not their place IMO

the only thing different is that mikaela got the special hut on sea (which is my dreamed vacay BTW).

so regardless the price for both, no effort was made for Lindsey.

my sc

JMO

Yes, @HEA, it is the same suite for it all, that's been established. But look at it this way, the upstairs where they were, was a whole lot nicer than Mikaela's room. The point is though, I did sleuth out the correct place, the correct place is a whole lot nicer IMO than Mikaela's which is a sign for F1 in the past, including right up to Jasmine's season.

Bachelor Canada - Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Episode Discussion - Sleuthing Spoilers - #2

I would like to mention that renting a presidential suite for one night, not even enjoying the facilities because they showed up late at night.....

we know it is sponsored by sunwing... so what is the point to rent a suite if not fully seen..... prods made us believe it was 2 different places by blurring the number

this means for me that they rented this place to use the ground floor for meeting the parents because it was easier to put all the material needed for the taping and do not do it again 2 times. practical.... but also cheap since they did not see the need to rent something special just for lindsey.

and thanks to the edits, they made us believe it was another place (blur number) as we see lindsey and chirs enter and immediately out of the stairs to the bedroom in the 1st floor.

one girl came from the left, the other one came from the right.... again to make us think it was a different place

blur number, changing direction but same place. from the entrance with blur number, directly to the bedroom .... no WOW factor that it is a presidential suite because viewers did not see it at all {#}EDITS{/#}

However, I am kinda confident to think that the parents did not sleep there. Again, they set up the place for the meetings but it was not their place IMO

the only thing different is that mikaela got the special hut on sea (which is my dreamed vacay BTW).

so regardless the price for both, no effort was made for Lindsey.

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Bachelor Canada Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Media SM - Sleuthing Spoilers - #2

HEA wrote:Every season, many fans are trying to put dirt on "the other one" to solidify the pedestal of their favorite. It is X versus Y. I call it bitterness and not being objective at all based mostly on frustration that the favorite is not winning (talking in general and mostly when RS shared a spoiler). Winning what ? not sure, as generally a relationship is based on compatibility and love. if the lead does not pick one, it does not mean she lost a million of $... It means that love was not reciprocated. It happens all the time. big deal!

We do not know those people by far. We do not know them enough to put X or Y on a pedestal, they are ordinary people and far from perfect people. I get myself more attached to X instead of Y, but sometimes not "winning" is a good thing and I do not feel the need to put dirt on the F1 or be bitter about it to prove that my favorite deserves to "win". I am right. I am wrong. Who cares!!! After the finale, lets have another Bachelor game to play with.

It happened so many times that the contestant or lead who was adored during his/her season was proved a fame whore or a big azzz AFTER the season in real life.... I can give you many example: BenF, MattyJ, Andi, JuanP and so many contestants who are called "alumni" with a main goal to remain around each other because their main goal in life is to use the franchise trying desperately to have their 1 minute fame back after their season ended.... the list is kinda long! The only contestants I was happily surprised are those who left the franchise behind and moved on. However, using the franchise back to gain followers... this is a reality. They all want to have the 3 digits number of followers. all of them. no exception. SM, IG, youtube, facebook, twitter... that is today's reality for this generation. I was not raised with SM and for me when it is too much, i get annoyed. But it is a reality that SM is part of our life, regardless if we want it or not.

To defend an opinion is totally fine as it is the purpose of a forum. We see something, we share it, we agree, we disagree... but at the end of the day we should be BFF and HAVE FUN. Nobody is perfect. Nobody is evil. Everyone has a little bit of each inside, and that works for contestants and leads. We should always take a grain of salt before making assumptions of people we never met. #edits

All I am trying to say is that I have mixed feeling for leaving my safe heaven of non spoiled place this season. I did not expect such passion and fire about contestants on the Canada franchise. Generally it is cooler and relaxed and I find all the need to justify X is better than Y exhausting. I felt I was on a court room all season and no longer in a playroom. Because I am drowned to the other contestant does not mean she is a bad person...

Mikaela looks genuine. Lindsey looks genuine. Chris looks genuine.... on my TV. But they also look stupid, silly, funny, OTT, cray-cray, annoying, adorable, sucky too. Thanks to them and the #edits!

Just my 2 cennes and my opinion.

#teamFUN #teamBFF #teamCHANGEMYOPINION #teamWHOCARESWHOISF1

Love this. We are coming to a close to this season and I think you have somewhat gave quite a honest landscape of what had transpired. At times, we get fired up but I always believe the passion came from people being engaged and invested (more than we would admit) rather than just deliberately trying to throw opposite ideas off. There are moments when things get heated but the truth is whatever happens in the end, we always moved on imo. Personally, I had a blast no matter my preferred F1 prevailed anot and I thank you guys for that.

Bachelor Canada Season 3 - Chris Leroux - Media SM - Sleuthing Spoilers - #2

Every season, many fans are trying to put dirt on "the other one" to solidify the pedestal of their favorite. It is X versus Y. I call it bitterness and not being objective at all based mostly on frustration that the favorite is not winning or just cannot stand the idea that other people may think differently, laughing at them, making demands to justify an opinion or possibility to think differently. I learned a long time ago that being wrong is part of the growing process and I may be 55, I hope I will never stop learning and if I am right I hope I will keep my childish attitude because it sucks to get old. To be honest, I am tire of this aggressive competition because for me it is not one or it is, then I'd like to be as a team us vs edits. If someone is sleuthing something, I rejoice and do my best to never ignore the effort and time this person did and I do not care who find what. Winning what ? not sure, as generally a relationship is based on compatibility and love. if the lead does not pick one, it does not mean she lost a million of $... It means that love was not reciprocated. It happens all the time. big deal!

We do not know those people by far. We do not know them enough to put X or Y on a pedestal, they are ordinary people and far from perfect people. I get myself more attached to X instead of Y, but sometimes not "winning" is a good thing and I do not feel the need to put dirt on the F1 or be bitter about it to prove that my favorite deserves to "win". I am right. I am wrong. Who cares!!! After the finale, lets have another Bachelor game to play with.

It happened so many times that the contestant or lead who was adored during his/her season was proved a fame whore or a big azzz AFTER the season in real life.... I can give you many example: BenF, MattyJ, Andi, JuanP and so many contestants who are called "alumni" with a main goal to remain around each other because their main goal in life is to use the franchise trying desperately to have their 1 minute fame back after their season ended.... the list is kinda long! The only contestants I was happily surprised are those who left the franchise behind and moved on. However, using the franchise back to gain followers... this is a reality. They all want to have the 3 digits number of followers. all of them. no exception. SM, IG, youtube, facebook, twitter... that is today's reality for this generation. I was not raised with SM and for me when it is too much, i get annoyed. But it is a reality that SM is part of our life, regardless if we want it or not.

To defend an opinion is totally fine as it is the purpose of a forum. We see something, we share it, we agree, we disagree... but at the end of the day we should be BFF and HAVE FUN. Nobody is perfect. Nobody is evil. Everyone has a little bit of each inside, and that works for contestants and leads. We should always take a grain of salt before making assumptions of people we never met. {#}edits{/#}

All I am trying to say is that I have mixed feeling for leaving my safe heaven of non spoiled place this season. I did not expect such passion and fire about contestants on the Canada franchise. Generally it is cooler and relaxed and I find all the need to justify X is better than Y exhausting. I felt I was on a court room all season and no longer in a playroom. At times, it felt like I was bullied because I thought differently and if I did not have a stubborn and strong personality, I would maybe be intimidated. So because I am drowned to the other contestant does not mean she is a bad person... We watch a TV reality show and we sleuth and we share our POV. We mock the villains who are rarely as bad as edited and when we see something funny, we should laugh about it, regardless the contestant. One season I am in the minority number to think X is F1, the other one in the majority to think Y is F1. Sometimes I am right to sleuth who is F1, sometimes I am wrong. At the end of the ~~season~~ day, It.does.not.matter.

Mikaela looks genuine. Lindsey looks genuine. Chris looks genuine.... on my TV. But they also look stupid, silly, funny, OTT, cray-cray, annoying, adorable, yucky too. Thanks to them and the {#}edits{/#}!

Just my 2 cennes and my opinion.

{#}teamFUN{/#} {#}teamBFF{/#} {#}teamRESPECT{/#} {#}teamCHANGEMYOPINION{/#} {#}teamWHOCARESWHOISF1{/#}

ps: sorry for the typos.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

relaxing wrote:
Fingersandtoes wrote:
HEA wrote:

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

#EDITS #ACTORS

Yeah. I'm suspecting a pre planned sl, tbh. JoJo just happened to meet Jordan's ex who knew JoJo, and that Jordan was on the show etc. and they got to talking about Jordan's cheating ways. But JoJo didn't know anything about Jordan before the show, right? Actors, both of them. Jmo.

To me this doesn't make sense for 2 reasons:

1) Jordan looks like he's going to pass out. Def not acting IMO. He didn't see that question coming and looks caught red handed like crap how do I make myself look good here. He looks guilty and sick IMO. That's no act but a guy who is very aware he is on tv IMO.

2) Why would Jordan and Jojo agree to act out a plot that makes them both look bad? Hey Jojo, will you question this guys motives, talk about worrying that your gut doesn't trust him and then look dumb by picking him anyway and pretend to be a happy couple. And hey Jordan we're going to question you about your cheating ways on national tv while you are trying to get into a broadcasting career, OK? Who would agree to act that out. Doesn't make any sense IMO.

If they were putting on an act wouldn't they act like the happiest, most meant to be couple evahhhh to generate post show opportunities? This actors idea doesn't make much sense to me. JMO.

It is interesting the timing. That RS comes out with his "story" then this clip comes out. All of this would lead one to think Jojo is going to wise up to Jordan. I don't know. Seems like a perfect set up for a foiler coming our way. If only something post show could point to that.

Is this the episode where she leans into him and says................"you make me sooooooooooooo happy"?

If so, then she bought his BS, hook, line and sinker!

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

relaxing wrote:
Fingersandtoes wrote:
HEA wrote:

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

#EDITS #ACTORS

Yeah. I'm suspecting a pre planned sl, tbh. JoJo just happened to meet Jordan's ex who knew JoJo, and that Jordan was on the show etc. and they got to talking about Jordan's cheating ways. But JoJo didn't know anything about Jordan before the show, right? Actors, both of them. Jmo.

To me this doesn't make sense for 2 reasons:

1) Jordan looks like he's going to pass out. Def not acting IMO. He didn't see that question coming and looks caught red handed like crap how do I make myself look good here. He looks guilty and sick IMO. That's no act but a guy who is very aware he is on tv IMO.

2) Why would Jordan and Jojo agree to act out a plot that makes them both look bad? Hey Jojo, will you question this guys motives, talk about worrying that your gut doesn't trust him and then look dumb by picking him anyway and pretend to be a happy couple. And hey Jordan we're going to question you about your cheating ways on national tv while you are trying to get into a broadcasting career, OK? Who would agree to act that out. Doesn't make any sense IMO.

If they were putting on an act wouldn't they act like the happiest, most meant to be couple evahhhh to generate post show opportunities? This actors idea doesn't make much sense to me. JMO.

It is interesting the timing. That RS comes out with his "story" then this clip comes out. All of this would lead one to think Jojo is going to wise up to Jordan. I don't know. Seems like a perfect set up for a foiler coming our way. If only something post show could point to that.

It makes no sense. She clearly doesn't believe him. Would she really get serious with Jordan when she believes he has cheating past, after her ex Chad? It seems like producers contacted Brittany after her IG post, but why would JoJo pick him?

I'm voting she doesn't pick anyone in the end. Jmo.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

[mention]Fingersandtoes[/mention] wrote:
[mention]HEA[/mention] wrote:
[mention]Fingersandtoes[/mention] wrote:I don't claim to know JoJo, but to me her whole demeanour and facial expression says, that she thinks he's full of bs. And he's a lousy actor.

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

{#}EDITS{/#} {#}ACTORS{/#}

Yeah. I'm suspecting a pre planned sl, tbh. JoJo just happened to meet Jordan's ex who knew JoJo, and that Jordan was on the show etc. and they got to talking about Jordan's cheating ways. But JoJo didn't know anything about Jordan before the show, right? Actors, both of them. Jmo.

To me this doesn't make sense for 2 reasons:

1) Jordan looks like he's going to pass out. Def not acting IMO. He didn't see that question coming and looks caught red handed like crap how do I make myself look good here. He looks guilty and sick IMO. That's no act but a guy who is very aware he is on tv IMO.

2) Why would Jordan and Jojo agree to act out a plot that makes them both look bad? Hey Jojo, will you question this guys motives, talk about worrying that your gut doesn't trust him and then look dumb by picking him anyway and pretend to be a happy couple. And hey Jordan we're going to question you about your cheating ways on national tv while you are trying to get into a broadcasting career, OK? Who would agree to act that out. Doesn't make any sense IMO.

If they were putting on an act wouldn't they act like the happiest, most meant to be couple evahhhh to generate post show opportunities? This actors idea doesn't make much sense to me. JMO.

It is interesting the timing. That RS comes out with his "story" then this clip comes out. All of this would lead one to think Jojo is going to wise up to Jordan. I don't know. Seems like a perfect set up for a foiler coming our way. If only something post show could point to that.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

HEA wrote:
Fingersandtoes wrote:I don't claim to know JoJo, but to me her whole demeanour and facial expression says, that she thinks he's full of bs. And he's a lousy actor.

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

#EDITS #ACTORS

Yeah. I'm suspecting a pre planned sl, tbh. JoJo just happened to meet Jordan's ex who knew JoJo, and that Jordan was on the show etc. and they got to talking about Jordan's cheating ways. But JoJo didn't know anything about Jordan before the show, right? Actors, both of them. Jmo.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

HEA wrote:
Fingersandtoes wrote:I don't claim to know JoJo, but to me her whole demeanour and facial expression says, that she thinks he's full of bs. And he's a lousy actor.

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

#EDITS #ACTORS

Yes nailed it! I predict he is going to get defensive and try to shift the blame to JoJo for even questioning him. He will make himself out to be the victim IMO and put JoJo in a losing situation. That is typical behavior of a man that is guilty and refuses to accept accountability for his actions.

Jordan Rodgers - Bachelorette 12 - Sleuthing - Spoilers #3

[mention]Fingersandtoes[/mention] wrote:I don't claim to know JoJo, but to me her whole demeanour and facial expression says, that she thinks he's full of bs. And he's a lousy actor.

At first he was chocked... then smiled because he knew it was brittany... then he took a zip of drink to give him time to answer... then he talked again about the story he said in his intro...

the facial expression of jojo is just: you are a pack of BS

But she had to forgive or trust him since he goes hometown right?

{#}EDITS{/#} {#}ACTORS{/#}